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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:25 PM
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President Obama succeeded where bush failed.
Edited on Fri May-06-11 12:28 PM by Cerridwen
President Obama succeeded where bush failed. This is the message to pound out. The Democrats succeeded where the repubs failed.

I've read here, over the years, the frustration that the 'right' gets their message out and that the 'left' has such difficulty. Reading this board and news websites over the past few days since President Obama and the Democrats succeeded where bush/cheney and the repubs failed, has been very interesting.

It's been a lot of arm-chair quarterbacking and second guessing fueled by "Senior US Officials," "Senior WH Officials," "Senior Pentagon Officials," and other anonymous "authorities" doling out conflicting information about how President Obama and the Democrats succeeded where bush/cheney and the repubs failed.

I want to remind everyone here, that back in the days of the presidential election, many here warned about the land mines that might be left behind by the bush/cheney (mis)administration; people left in place who could cause problems, create havoc, leak rumors, et. al. Remember those landmines when you hear and/or read criticism of how President Obama succeeded where bush failed.

Here are some of the ways you can stay on message; and the message is, bush/cheney/repubs failed; President Obama/Biden/Democrats succeeded. Nuance and accepting the premise is not allowed. You're going to have to decide if you want to spread the message or dilute and/or destroy the message.

You have to keep pounding and repeating the message that President Obama succeeded where bush failed or you could say the Democrats succeeded where the repubs failed; beyond that small distinction, the message is the same; Democrats succeed, repubs fail.

"They were ordered to kill!" Response: "You mean when President Obama and the Democrats succeeded where bush/cheney and the repubs failed to get bin Laden?"

"He should have been captured and put on trial" Response: "You mean when President Obama and the Democrats succeeded where bush/cheney and the repubs failed to get bin Laden?"

"bush did all the work or it could never have happened" Response: "Yet he couldn't 'close the deal' so President Obama and the Democrats succeeded where bush/cheney and the repubs failed to get bin Laden?"

"The US has a long history of {insert horror stories of US past}." Response: "Yet with all that, bush still failed to find much less get bin Laden and President Obama succeeded where bush failed."

"Chavez/Castro/al Quaeda say {insert whatever}" Response: "Of course, they would be concerned that President Obama succeeded where bush failed."

"bin Laden was assassinated/executed" Response: "You mean when President Obama succeeded where bush failed to even find bin Laden?"

"bin Laden's been dead for years." Response: "Good thing President Obama succeeded in bringing us the truth after all those years when bush failed to do so."

"I want to see the pictures!" Response: "You mean the pictures of President Obama succeeding where bush failed?"

"They insulted 'Geronimo'" Response: "You mean when President Obama succeeded where bush failed?"

"You're a warmonger/awful person because you 'approve'" Response: "You mean because I noticed that President Obama succeeded where bush failed?"

The first rule of staying on message: REFUSE the premise of what "they're" saying. If "you" accept "their" argument, "you" lose. Debate "your" message, not "theirs".

Go ahead, try it. Stay on message. Practice saying how "Democrats succeed while repubs fail." Get and keep that message out there, and 2012 gets much easier.



edit to add warmonger response and close some quotes.

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:26 PM
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1. ...



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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:33 PM
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2. Keeper. n/t
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:38 PM
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3. I'm going to sprinkle this message all over this board
until I have to leave for my appointment this afternoon.

It's good practice for the 'real' world.

Play along if you'd like. :)

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:40 PM
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4. Excellent!
As long as one's agenda is to see Democrats/Obama succeed, this is the message that we should be pounding. It is simple, straight to the point, and the truth.

Thank you for it!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:42 PM
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5. It fits on a bumper sticker and into a sound-bite.
Edited on Fri May-06-11 12:42 PM by Cerridwen
No room for nuance so it's hard for Democrats and other liberals and progressives; but, it gets out the message.

People will have to decide whether to play politics or not to play politics.

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mulsh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 12:42 PM
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6. I will use this at a family gathering this afternoon
I love the simplicity and truth of stating President Obama and the democrats succeeded where bush and the republicans failed.

You certainly have illustrated how this statement works well in many situations.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:01 PM
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7. Good luck!
Remember, in order to do this, no matter what they throw at you, refuse to accept their premise/message. It can be tough if you go on the defensive or if you have qualms about how the bin Laden take down went down.

Hang in there. :)

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:20 PM
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8. It's gotta really suck to be a repub these days.
I hope this message helps it suck more.

I'm cruel that way.

:evilgrin:

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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:45 PM
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9. La-la-la-la-la-la
I can't hear you.....besides, Bush didn't even try.....so there! :*
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:47 PM
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10. That's okay.
I'll just keep repeating it. Eventually it gets in.

:evilgrin:

"bush didn't even try"...so bush failed where President Obama succeeded.

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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:04 PM
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11. You capitalized Obama,Democrats,al Quaeda,Chavez,and
and Castro.

You used lower case for bush,cheney,and republicans.

Strange.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:24 PM
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12. Not strange at all; though capitalizing quaeda was an oops.
I frequently type lowercase for those names of people or things I have little or no respect for; I do that rather than name calling.

I give Chavez and Castro a break since I'm on the fence about them; western press/media has a rather doubtful history of veracity when it comes to any anti/non-capitalist countries and their leaders.

In my first 'post message' I also forgot to close some quotes. I imagine there are a few other typos as well to go with the quaeda oops; too late to edit now, though.

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:09 PM
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13. Kick.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:48 PM
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14. Kick
this is exactly what those right wing effers do and they deserve to have the same thing done to them. Love it!
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 03:49 PM
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15. Thank you!
Thank you for the kick and the nice words. :)

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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 04:28 PM
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16. Kick on my way out the door.
See you all later.

:hi:

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napkinz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 06:11 PM
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17. KICK!!!!
:kick:


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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 06:30 PM
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18. So true!!!! I hope the Dems on TV get this msg out LOUD AND CLEAR for all to hear! K&R. nt
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napkinz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:31 AM
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19. Saturday Morning Kick!
:kick:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:18 PM
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20. Damn ... too late to rec ...
But NOT too late to kick ...

Thanks dear girl .... VERY will spoken, and my new mantra when confronted with RW idiocy on a daily basis ! ...

Give my regards to R ....


:kick:
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napkinz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:42 PM
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21. BUSH = FAIL
Edited on Sat May-07-11 09:44 PM by napkinz







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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:13 PM
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22. kick
:kick:
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:16 PM
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23. Was there some hidden message buried in your post we were supposed to take away? j/k nice job.
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napkinz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-09-11 11:02 AM
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24. kick
:kick:


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