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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 08:53 PM
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Libyan Revolution Day 79
Links to sites with updates: http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog">AJE Live Blog http://blogs.aljazeera.net/twitter-dashboard">AJE Twitter Dashboard http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/libya">The Guardian http://uk.reuters.com/places/libya">Reuters http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/">Telegraph http://feb17.info/">feb17.info http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb?utm_source=lsplayer&utm_medium=embed&utm_campaign=footerlinks">Libya Alhurra (live video webcast from Benghazi) http://libya-alhurra.tumblr.com/">Libya Alhurra archives and updates http://www.ustream.tv/channel/benghaziradio">Benghazi Free Radio, in Arabic (may have translators present at times) http://www.libyafeb17.com/">libyafeb17.com

Twitter links: http://twitter.com/#!/aymanm">Ayman Mohyeldin, with AJE http://twitter.com/#!/bencnn">Ben Wedeman, with CNN http://twitter.com/#!/tripolitanian">tripolitanian, a Libyan from Tripoli http://twitter.com/#!/BaghdadBrian">Brian Conley, reporter in Libya http://twitter.com/#!/freelibyanyouth">FreeLibyanYouth, Libyan advocate http://twitter.com/#!/LibyaFeb17_com">LibyaFeb17.com twitter account http://twitter.com/#!/ChangeInLibya">ChangeInLibya, Libyan advocate https://twitter.com/#!/TheyCallMeSof">Sofyan Amry (arrived in Benghazi recently) http://twitter.com/#!/KiloFoot">KiloFoot (general Arab Spring news aggregation)

Useful links: http://audioboo.fm/feb17voices">feb17voices http://www.google.com/search?q=time+in+libya">Current time in Libya http://www.islamicfinder.org/cityPrayerNew.php?country=libya">Prayer times in Libya

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1047696">Day 78 here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixwx_B38678">Marching On in Libya, for the revolutionaries!


A migrant worker waited to be evacuated from Misurata. Most of the foreign workers living in the tent camps are from Africa.

Photograph: Bryan Denton for The New York Times



http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/libya-attacks-against-misratah-residents-point-war-crimes-2011-05-05">Libya: Attacks against Misratah residents point to war crimes
Misratah: Under Siege and Under Fire accuses al-Gaddafi forces of unlawful killing of civilians due to indiscriminate attacks, including use of heavy artillery, rockets and cluster bombs in civilian areas and sniper fire against residents.

It also documents systematic shooting at peaceful protesters and enforced disappearance of perceived opponents, which can amount to crimes against humanity.

"The scale of the relentless attacks that we have seen by al-Gaddafi forces to intimidate the residents of Misratah for more than two months is truly horrifying," said Donatella Rovera, Amnesty International's senior adviser currently in Libya.

"It shows a total disregard for the lives of ordinary people and is in clear breach of international humanitarian law."


PDF file http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/MDE19/019/2011/en/4efa1e19-06c1-4609-9477-fe0f2f4e2b2a/mde190192011en.pdf">here. Thanks to Turborama for initially finding this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/07/world/africa/07libya.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss">Qaddafi Forces Spreading Landmines in Misurata
MISURATA, Libya — Military forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi scattered antitank land mines on the port of this besieged city late Thursday night, threatening once more to close the city’s only route for evacuation and supplies, according to accounts of witnesses, photographs and physical evidence collected on the ground.

The landmines were delivered by a Chinese-made variant of Grad rocket that opens in flight and drops mines to the ground below, each slowed slightly and oriented for arming by a small green parachute, according to an identification of the sub-munitions by specialists who were provided photographs and dimensions of the weapons.

The mines hit the port at 9 or 10 p.m. Thursday, after rockets were heard being fired on the city from the southeast. A short while later, a truck driven by rebels who were patrolling the harbor struck two of them. Both men inside were wounded, according to a port supervisor and one of the victims, Faisal el-Mahrougi, the driver.

Officials and guards said more than 20 mines were distributed in the attack, and remains of at least 13 were observed firsthand. It was not possible to verify an exact number, as many had been destroyed by rebels who, to clear the mines, shot them with rifles, causing them to explode. By nightfall on Friday, the port appeared to have been cleared.


http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/40d70a42-77fb-11e0-b90e-00144feabdc0.html?ftcamp=rss#axzz1LcsIR8NC">Berbers step up battle in ‘forgotten’ mountains
A battle raging little-noticed in western Libya’s highlands may be crucial to the Tripoli regime’s oil and water supplies and the outcome of the conflict between Muammer Gaddafi and rebels, say analysts.

While international attention has focused on fighting in coastal towns such as Misurata, the combat in the Nafusa mountains is of strategic importance and is reported to have spilt over into Tunisia. The struggle in the area between Colonel Gaddafi’s army and Berber and Arab opposition forces has intensified in the past week, in a sign of the significant tussles taking place away from the east-west front line of Libya’s conflict.

Oliver Miles, a former British ambassador to Tripoli, said the Nafusa fighting was part of a broader pattern of inland turmoil that showed the conflict ran along more complex lines than a simple east-west split.

He said: “A more accurate way of describing it would be to say that Tripoli is different from the rest of the country, which is more tribal. It’s the old story of the Middle East and north Africa – it’s town against desert.


Thanks to tabatha. Search Google for the title of the article to get full access. The Berbers are an extremely marginalized group in Libya, with their very language being banned.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8498817/Libya-Osama-bin-Ladens-death-is-warning-to-Gaddafi.html">Libya: Osama bin Laden's death is 'warning to Gaddafi'
General Sir David Richards, the Chief of the Defence Staff, said the death of the al-Qaeda leader should have a “psychological impact” on the Libyan dictator and others because “one day their deeds will catch up with them.”

The general’s warning came as British officials revealed that weeks of allied attacks have now cost Col Gaddafi almost three-quarters of his military forces.

Gen Richards described the killing of bin Laden as “definitely a positive” in the context of political change in the Middle East.

“It will remind like-minded people wherever they are that one day their deeds will catch up with them,” he said.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/06/libya-war-correspondents-fed-propaganda">Dear Tripoli propagandists: Nothing compares 2 U and your surreal claims
"It's been seven hours and 15 days," sings Sinead O'Connor in Nothing Compares 2 U, a ballad that will instantly transport me back to the lobby of the Rixos hotel in Tripoli.

In my case it was 16 hours and 27 days that I listened over and over to Sinead, Kool and the Gang, Chris de Burgh, Spandau Ballet and countless other 80s artists on an endless loop echoing around the vast ostentatious lobby, whose drooping glass centrepiece was memorably described by a well-known British broadcaster as "the used condom chandelier".

But the muzak and the decor were relatively benign backdrops to four weeks of exposure to the Libyan regime and the parallel universe it inhabits.

By the end, I was so accustomed to the black-is-white statements of officials that the dropped jaws of newcomers at declarations such as "there is no bombardment of Misrata" seemed naively comical.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDIFo9_T6iA">Gaddafi Forces Strike Rebel-Held Zintan - video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAclhhHv43s">Arab Awakening - Libya: Through the fire - video
Through the eyes of a Libyan-born filmmaker, we investigate the dark stories emerging from a country fast unravelling into civil war.

Libya: Through the fire can be seen from Thursday, May 5, at the following times GMT: Thursday: 2000; Friday: 1200; Saturday: 0100; Sunday: 0600; Monday: 2000; Tuesday: 1200; Wednesday: 0100; Thursday: 0600.


The final link is a must see. I have not seen it yet but I hear good things from Libya Alhurra TV commentators. It covers Mo's place in the revolution along with others.




http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/02/25/world/middleeast/map-of-how-the-protests-unfolded-in-libya.html">Click here for updated map


Video of the convoy sent to take Benghazi, taken from a dead soliders cell phone (shows how massive the operation was): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwWwOeZqz6M

Sky News went with Gaddafi minders to find a "civilian town bombed" only they were never shown any such thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5KJavfiQo

TNC presser talking about various details of the revolution (thanks to Waiting for Everyone): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=730234&mesg_id=731532

Topic on the women of the revolution, dispels myths that they are treated poorly: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x594751

Videos to bring the Libyan Revolution into context:

The Battle of Benghazi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0vChMDuNd0

BBC Panorama on Libya Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyaPnMnpCAA

BBC Panorama on Libya Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMzwQvcx62s

Tea of Freedom Song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5tu5bJWKc

Latest indiscriminate shelling in Misurata: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wop3C4zrPXI

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x677397">Text of the resolution.

How will a no fly zone work? AJE reports: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWEwehTtK2k

Canada: http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110317/cf-libya-canada/20110317/?hub=WinnipegHome">Canada to send six CF-18s for Libya 'no-fly' mission Norway: http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFOSN00509220110318">Norway to join military intervention in Libya Belgium: http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/monde/2011-03-18/la-belgique-prete-a-une-operation-militaire-en-libye-828970.php">Belgium ready for a military operation in Libya Qatar and the UAE: http://www.defpro.com/daily/details/776/?SID=e80884adc09a37d26904578a9b5978cb">Run-up for Western world’s next military commitment ... with unusual support Denmark: http://www.cphpost.dk/news/international/89-international/51229-denmark-ready-for-action-against-gaddafi.html">Denmark ready for action against Gaddafi France: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/19/world/africa/19libya.html?src=twrhp">Following U.N. Vote, France Vows Libya Action ‘Soon’ Italy: http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFLDE72G2HE20110317">Italy to make bases available for Libya no-fly zone-source United Kingdom: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12770467">Libya: UK forces prepare after UN no-fly zone vote United States: http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/nations-draw-up-plans-for-no-fly-zone-over-libya-1.2765122">Nations draw up plans for no-fly zone over Libya Jordan: http://www.smh.com.au/world/military-strikes-on-libya-within-hours-20110318-1bzii.html?from=smh_sb">Military strikes on Libya 'within hours' Spain: http://english.cri.cn/6966/2011/03/19/2801s627320.htm">Spain Expected to Join NATO No-fly Zone Enforcement over Libya

"One month ago (Western countries) were sooo nice, so nice like pussycats," Saif says in a contemptuous sing-song tone."Now they want to be really aggressive like tigers. (But) soon they will come back, and cut oil deals, contracts. We know this game." - http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2058389,00.html">Saif Gaddafi


(Yeah, Saif, as if you weren't "cutting oil deals, contracts" with western states. Who are the 'tigers' now? Bombing your own people.)

http://english.libya.tv/2011/04/25/eastern-libyans-believe-in-national-unity-distrust-au-and-turkish-mediation-survey-reveals/">The first free public opinion poll ever conducted in Libya reveals clues to Eastern Libyan sentiments
* 98 percent of the respondents do not support the division of Libya as a part of the political solution for the current conflict with the Gaddafi regime. Around 95 percent also don’t see any role for Gaddafi or his sons in a transitional period, and think it is impossible to implement any political reform in Libya if Gaddafi or one of his sons stays in power

* Around 96 percent of those polled, believe that the 17th of February revolution can consolidate the national unity of Libya and support the model of a democratic Libya based on a constitution which respects human rights

* Al-Qaeda has not played any role in the 17th of February revolution, say 94 percent of the Eastern Libyans, and 91 percent thinks it’s impossible for Al-Qaeda to play any political role in the new Libya

* The National Transitional Council is seen by 92 percent of those surveyed as “expressing the views and wishes of Libyans for change”


This is equivalent to 17% the entire population of Libya, doing the numbers very conservatively.


http://jenkinsear.com/2011/03/19/a-legal-war-the-united-nations-participation-act-and-libya/">A Legal War: The United Nations Participation Act and Libya
The above link is to an overview of why Obama's implementation of the NFZ and R2P is perfectly legal under the law. I will not post it entirely here, however, all objections come down to the misinformed position that Obama, by using forces in Libya, was invoking Article 43 of the United Nations. This is wrong. Obama invoked Article 42, which does not require congressional approval to implement. Proof of this is that Article 43 has http://www.un.org/en/sc/repertoire/actions.shtml#rel5">never been used.

It goes like this: The US law (Title 22, Chap. 7, Subchap. XIV § 287d) grants the President the right to invoke UN Article 42 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode22/usc_sec_22_00000287---d000-.html">without authorization, the War Powers Act (Title 50, Chap. 33 § 1541) grants the President permission to act without authorization under http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/1541–1548.html">"specific statutory authorization" which, by definition, is what 287d does. § 1543 of the War Powers Act requires the President to report to Congress, http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/obama_explains_libya_mission_to_congress/2011/03/03/ABU9377_blog.html">which he did. One can argue all day and night about the legality of the War Powers Act, doesn't change the fact that under the law as it is written, the President acted within the law.


http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog-march-10-0">March 10 7:28pm Saif al Islam Gaddafi says "the time has come for full-scale military action" against Libyan rebels. He goes on to say that Libyan forces loyal to his family "will never surrender, even if western powers intervene".


http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/2011/03/2011328194855872276.html">Libyan Karzai? Chalabi? Forget it
Fortunately, the Council wasn't made-in-the-USA or manufactured by another foreign power. Rather it came into existence, a month ago, at Libyans' own initiative, soon after the winds of revolutionary change blew Libya's way, and after its people rose to the occasion with pride and courage.


http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/03/31/getting_libyas_rebels_wrong">Getting Libya's Rebels Wrong
Don't buy Qaddafi's line: The rebels aren't al Qaeda.


http://www.newyorker.com/talk/comment/2011/04/04/110404taco_talk_anderson#ixzz1HvS7iW22">Who Are the Rebels?
During weeks of reporting in Benghazi and along the chaotic, shifting front line, I’ve spent a great deal of time with these volunteers. The hard core of the fighters has been the shabab—the young people whose protests in mid-February sparked the uprising. They range from street toughs to university students (many in computer science, engineering, or medicine), and have been joined by unemployed hipsters and middle-aged mechanics, merchants, and storekeepers. There is a contingent of workers for foreign companies: oil and maritime engineers, construction supervisors, translators. There are former soldiers, their gunstocks painted red, green, and black—the suddenly ubiquitous colors of the pre-Qaddafi Libyan flag.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/mar/29/vision-democratic-libya-interim-national-council">A vision of a democratic Libya
The interim national council, formed by opposition groups in Libya, has said it will hold free and fair elections and draft a national constitution. Here is its eight-point plan in full.


http://www.workersliberty.org/story/2011/04/20/left-slipping-towards-qaddafi">The left: slipping towards Qaddafi?
When the revolt against Qaddafi started in Libya, hardly anyone on the left — however broadly defined — could say anything in defence of Qaddafi.

With the start of the "no-fly zone", many on the left started to sideline the issues within Libya and focus their efforts on denouncing NATO.

Now the denunciation of NATO, in turn, is acting as a lever to introduce defence of Qaddafi and denunciation of the rebels into broad-left discourse.

...

Everything is done by insinuation and sarcasm, just as old-style Stalinists used to deflect criticism of the USSR by studied wondering whether the regime was quite as bad as extreme Western right-wingers used to say, or whether the right-wingers' motives for criticism might be suspect.


http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/is-qaddafi-an-anti-racist/">Is Qaddafi an anti-racist?

...

One of the signs that you are dealing with a cruder form of propaganda is if the author does not bother to address evidence that contradicts his or her own. To be taken seriously on the question of Qaddafi’s commitment to pan-African values, you have to take a close look at his overall record, something that does not interest Forte who is so anxious to tilt the scales in favor of Qaddafi that he does not bother to conceal the fact that his hand rests upon the scale.

...



Mohammed Nabbous, killed by Gaddafi's forces while trying to report on the massacre in Benghazi

"I'm not afraid to die, I'm afraid to lose the battle" -Mohammed Nabbous, a month ago when all this began


I'm struggling to come up with something to say about this man. I was not aware of the Libyan uprising until I saw Mo's first report, begging for help, posted here on DU. I was stricken. Here was a man giving everything he had to explain a situation that clearly terrified him, I would not call him a coward in that moment, but you could see the fear in his eyes, and desperation in his voice. For 30 days Nabbous would spend many hours covering the uprising in Benghazi. For many nights I would go to sleep with the webcast of Benghazi live on my computer screen, looking to it occasionally to be sure it was still 'there.' Mo treated the chat room as if we were his friends, and in some way, we were. I never signed up to LiveStream to thank him for all his work and it seems somewhat shallow to do so now, given that I was a lurker for so long. Ever since I took over posting these threads "Libya Alhurra" has been linked as a source of information. It wasn't until last night, when I posted, and twitter posted on Mo's adventures out into Benghazi to try to determine the truth of the situation, that Mo's webchannel became a hit, over 2000 people were watching him stream live. This was curious to him because he'd done many reports like this in the past but he appeared somewhat bemused that the view count exploded as it did. Last night Mo became a star. This is a man who first started out with a webcast replete with fear and desperation finally overcoming that aspect of himself and losing that fear, to become someone who was a fighter for the resistance just as much as those who held the guns. Reporting on the front lines of Benghazi became his final act, and for that he should never, ever be forgotten. I'm so sorry Mo that I never got to know you better.

Mo's first report, which many of you may remember, begging for help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38EXALI60hg

Mo's last report, a fallen hero trying to spread the word to the world: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecu_iWLn-rg

Mo leaves behind a wife who is with child, she had http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/23/a_bright_voice_from_libyas_darkness">this to say about the No Fly Zone and R2P UN resolution:

We started this in a pure way, but he turned it bloody. Thousands of our men, women, and children have died. We just wanted our freedom, that's all we wanted, we didn't want power. Before, we could not do a single thing if it was not the way he wanted it. All we wanted was freedom. All we wanted was to be free. We have paid with our blood, with our families, with our men, and we're not going to give up. We are still going to do that no matter what it takes, but we need help. We want to do this ourselves, but we don't have the weapons, the technology, the things we need. I don't want anyone to say that Libya got liberated by anybody else. If NATO didn't start moving when they did, I assure you, I assure you, half of Benghazi if not more would have been killed. If they stop helping us, we are going to be all killed because he has no mercy anymore.


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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 08:56 PM
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1. Current time in Libya, 3:55am Saturday, May 7


A doctor at a clinic in Misurata showed Emeka Ezeh, in white, the stump of his wife's amputated right leg. Mr. Ezeh and his wife, Favur Ayeni, both migrant workers from Nigeria, had moved themselves and their two young children to a migrant tent camp near the port just two days earlier when a volley of rockets killed both children -- Debtin, 1, and Suzis, 8 months -- and severed Ms. Ayeni's leg.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/africa/2011-libya-slide-show-new.html?ref=africa#4">Photograph: Bryan Denton for The New York Times

If you watch the slide show don't be feint of heart, there is a severed leg image, it's heartbreaking.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:32 AM
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18. delete
Edited on Sat May-07-11 04:32 AM by joshcryer
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:02 PM
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2. Targeting fuel tanks Misurata Grad missiles (video of massive fire in Misrata)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDLYnqGo5wk">Targeting fuel tanks Misurata Grad missiles
were heard (about 40 explosion sequence)
The Grad rockets targeted the fuel tanks region Palace Ahmed Misurata City is the city's main fuel tanks
The incident resulted in the outbreak of fire Bkhozanin super-sized one and the other diesel and aviation fuel


Google translation.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 11:26 PM
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9. English narriation of the fire:
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:11 PM
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3. K&R
:hi:






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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:23 PM
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4. Kicking for all your efforts /nt
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:41 PM
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5. Libya: Through the fire
Edited on Fri May-06-11 09:42 PM by tabatha
Debunks a lot of claims I have seen - it is clear that the "rebels" had unarmed demonstrations in the beginning; it is clear that Mo was totally independent and got little help; it is clear that Gaddafi would have done to Benghazi what he is doing now to Misrata.

On edit - repeat of the video link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAclhhHv43s

K&R
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:56 PM
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8. Just finished watching this (in 720p) it's an amazing, extraoridinary documentary!
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 12:16 AM
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56. Incredibly moving documentary. I saw it on TV & am going to again using the Hi Res version here...
There are several other related documentaries that have been (and have yet to be) broadcast available to watch on this page, too: http://english.aljazeera.net/programmes/general/2011/04/20114483425914466.html
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-11 11:45 AM
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57. I've Tweeted it and if anyone would like to retweet it....
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 09:50 PM
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6. SYRIA SUMMARY via KiloFoot
Edited on Fri May-06-11 09:52 PM by tabatha
Syria sanctions increase as death toll mounts >ABC:
http://goo.gl/LRa2h

William Hague welcomes EU sanctions on Syrian officials > BBC:
http://goo.gl/h2Ty3

UN:Reject Syria's Human Rights Council Candidacy>Tolerance:
http://goo.gl/9GOMb

Syrian revolution 2011: Death toll rose to 683 > Ya Libnan:
http://goo.gl/y9TUP

US threatens new action unless Syria stops killings > REUTERS:
http://goo.gl/w13ZJ

VIDEO: "Day of Defiance" Throughout Syria; EU Considers Sanctions > Care2:
http://goo.gl/lyHrS

Jay Carney's newest warning to Syria on violence >LATimes:
http://goo.gl/mvPFu

What About The Syrians? (600 people have been killed; little, if any, attention being paid to them) > HuffPost:
http://goo.gl/01NN7

Tens of thousands protest across Syria > Chicago Tribune:
http://goo.gl/hBbNh

US warns of more steps against Syria > AFP:
http://goo.gl/G62n5

Syria Protests Gain New Supporters in Damascus & Aleppo > WSJ:
http://goo.gl/LTlPf

Syria to pursue crackdown undeterred by sanctions > Daily Times:
http://goo.gl/pmDrf

Syrian Facebook Users Hit by Online Attacks > SecurityNewsDaily:
http://goo.gl/zcl9K

VIDEO : Anti-government protests sweep Syrian cities > LA Times:
http://goo.gl/zreOg

The Revolution Will Be YouTubed: Syria's Video Rebels>TIME via Yahoo News:
http://goo.gl/8rMsk

Assad Bashes Heads, Hoping His Regime's Strategic Importance Buys It a Pass TIME via Yahoo News:
http://goo.gl/mCbMy

Source:
http://twitter.com/#!/KiloFoot
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 10:55 PM
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7. Sons of the Revolution
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/09/110509fa_fact_anderson">Sons of the Revolution
On the morning of March 12th, Osama ben Sadik, a volunteer ambulance driver, arrived for duty at the Red Crescent clinic in Brega, an oil-refinery town in eastern Libya. The uprising against Muammar Qaddafi had turned from a protest movement into a shooting war, and casualties were expected. But no one in Brega had a clear idea of what was happening on the battlefield, not even the few fighters fidgeting by a new barricade outside the refinery’s front gate. Six days earlier, Qaddafi’s armored columns had halted the rebels on their ill-planned, euphoric advance westward toward Tripoli. Bloodied and outgunned, the rebels, a leaderless rabble of university students, mechanics, shopkeepers, and Army reservists, had been falling back ever since. After a standoff on the coastal road that ran past Ras Lanuf, another oil-refinery town, eighty miles to the west, the rebels had buckled under heavy fire and made a panicked retreat. It seemed obvious that the small desert town of Brega would be the next target of Qaddafi’s forces.

At the clinic, most of the medical staff had evacuated after an ambulance was hit by a shell, killing one of their doctors and several nurses. A lone doctor remained, along with Osama, who was friendly, and spoke extraordinarily good English. A rangy man of forty-eight with warm brown eyes and an aquiline face that resembled a beardless Abraham Lincoln’s, he showed off his ambulance. To aid the war effort, he and some friends had adapted a Toyota Land Cruiser pickup into a mobile emergency-treatment center. The vehicle, painted white with a red crescent, was parked at the clinic entrance, where Osama was busily cleaning it.

When I asked Osama how he had learned English, he said, “I’m from Martinsville, Virginia.” He was Libyan, but his wife, Suzi, was half American. A onetime Libyan Arab Airlines engineer, Osama had, with Suzi, raised four children in Benghazi. But in the nineties, with Libya isolated by international sanctions because of Qaddafi’s refusal to hand over suspects in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing, Osama had struggled to make a living. In 2007, after the sanctions had been lifted, he moved with his family to Henry County, Virginia, near where Suzi’s mother lived. There, he found he could make money by exporting construction equipment to Benghazi, and he flew back and forth to supervise the business. With pride, Osama told me that he had become a U.S. citizen, and was now a member of Henry County’s volunteer fire department.

His wife and their two young daughters were in Virginia, he explained, but he and his two sons were in Libya, doing whatever they could for the revolution. While Osama was driving his improvised ambulance, his younger son, Yousef, a seventeen-year-old high-school student who was living in Benghazi with a relative, was taking part in the rallies held daily in front of the revolution’s headquarters, a beat-up courthouse on the city’s seafront promenade. Muhannad, his elder son, a twenty-one-year-old medical student, was fighting at the front. Osama’s description of Muhannad reminded me that a few days before, in Ras Lanuf, I had noticed a young Libyan-American fighter, fair-haired and blue-eyed. He was wearing a mujahideen-style pakul cap, and he waved and smiled at me from a jeep that was making its way to the front line. I asked Osama if his son had light hair and wore an Afghan cap, and he beamed: “Yes, that’s him! That’s my son.”


Extraordinary article! I never saw it posted before, it's 10 pages long. Please check it out.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:12 AM
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10. My interest has always been to learn about how it all started.
Edited on Sat May-07-11 12:20 AM by tabatha
When I asked an influential Benghazi businessman, Sami Bubtaina, why the revolution had not produced a leader, he said, “Everything was so fast! By the second week, the shabab were in Ras Lanuf.” Bubtaina, who is in his fifties, told me that the leaders of his generation were terrorized and coöpted by the regime. In the mid-seventies, dissidents in Benghazi were hanged on the university grounds, with students and faculty forced to attend, and on the steps of the old Italian cathedral. There had been an economic opening in the past few years, he said, but the promise of political reform was a sham. “In the last three or four years, we’ve had satellite television and the Internet, but we still couldn’t communicate our feelings,” he said. “If we did anything to communicate with the political opposition, we’d go to jail, or be disappeared.”

It was his children’s generation that had seen an opportunity. “The young people watched what happened in Egypt and Tunisia on the Internet, and they said, ‘Why can’t we do the same here?’ But there was no plan for a war, or even a real plan to overthrow Qaddafi. There was no leadership; just some people who went out and threw things at the police, and then the police used weapons to kill the kids. So this started when the first martyr came to the hospital.”

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/09/110509fa_fact_anderson#ixzz1LdlFJP6U

On edit: It is similar to what happened South Africa; the adults were cowed and repressed. It was the kids that started the demonstrations, which turned bloody as the police fired back.

"When high-school students in Soweto started protesting for better education on 16 June 1976, police responded with teargas and live bullets. It is commemorated today by a South African national holiday, Youth day, which honors all the young people who lost their lives in the struggle against Apartheid and Bantu Education."
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:27 AM
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11. You were at work when it was posted, Josh
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1001774&mesg_id=1013423

You're naturally going to miss some things when you get home from working all day and have to do a quick catch-up while under pressure to prepare and get a new OP up. And articles like this are worth re-posting, anyway, for those who missed it.


:hi:






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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:30 AM
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12. So sorry pinboy3niner! I overlooked two of your postings in a row!
Much apologies! It's a fascinating article, and I'm glad to highlight it again!
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:43 AM
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14. No apology needed, Josh
We know you don't have time to read EVERYTHING (AND get the new threads up, too, in your "spare" time).

Don't tell anyone, but I have more time than you and I can't keep up with everything, either. :)






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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:31 AM
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13. Libya Lobbyists Come Clean
http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/libya-lobbyists-come-clean">Libya Lobbyists Come Clean
Yep, we messed up. That's the word out of the Cambridge-based consulting firm Monitor Group. Between 2006 and 2008, the company maintained a highly questionable business relationship with the regime of Muammar Qaddafi, the Libyan dictator. Monitor helped Muammar Qaddafi's son Saif write his PhD dissertation at the London School of Economics. It also hired some of the US and UK's foremost international relations experts to write glowing editorials and essays about the Qaddafi regime's efforts to clean up its act and enact democratic reforms. And the firm never revealed that it was all was part of a coordinated—and well-funded—effort to end Libya's status as a pariah state.

Not long after Mother Jones reported on Monitor's Libya project, questions arose about whether the firm had taken the proper steps to register as a lobbyist for Libya with the Justice Department. Offering advice on economic or governing reform without registering isn't illegal. But the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) stipulates that groups like Monitor must register if they're planning on conducting "acts in a public relations capacity for a foreign principal"—which, as we reported, is primarily what Monitor's Libya project was all about. As we wrote back in March, Monitor decided to conduct an internal investigation into whether it had violated FARA, initially led by Eamonn Kelly, a senior partner at the firm. Later, the company brought in outside lawyers from the firm of Covington & Burling to finish the job.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 02:40 AM
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15. US freezes assets of Libyan state broadcaster
http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20110507065917/US_freezes_assets_of_Libyan_state_broadcaster">US freezes assets of Libyan state broadcaster
2011-05-06 The Libyan Jamahiriya Broadcasting Corporation (LJBC) on Thursday (May 5th) was added to the list of state-controlled companies sanctioned by the US, AFP reported. Assets and property of other Libyan companies based in London and Algeria were also frozen. "The United Nations and countries around the world are locking down the government of Libya's assets to prevent the Kadhafi regime from sponsoring further bloodshed," US Treasury official Adam Szubin said. On Thursday, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told the Libya Contact Group in Rome that that the US was looking into legislation that would allow some $34 billion in frozen Libyan assets to be released to the rebels' Transitional National Council.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:17 AM
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16. Libyan shells fall in Tunisia in renewed fighting
http://www.trust.org/alertnet/news/libyan-shells-fall-in-tunisia-in-renewed-fighting">Libyan shells fall in Tunisia in renewed fighting
DEHIBA, Tunisia, May 7 (Reuters) - Several shells fired by forces loyal to Libya's Muammar Gaddafi fell in Tunisia on Saturday as fighting broke out near the border between soldiers and anti-Gaddafi rebels, witnesses said.

"At least four shells have fallen inside Tunisia, but not in a built-up area," said Reuters correspondent Tarek Amara in the Tunisian border town of Dehiba. (Editing by Matthew Tostevin)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 03:09 PM
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43. K/R --
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:18 AM
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17. 'Day of Defiance' leaves 36 Syrians dead
http://www.skynews.com.au/world/article.aspx?id=609902&vId=">'Day of Defiance' leaves 36 Syrians dead
Syrian security forces shot dead at least 26 protesters on Friday as thousands rallied on a Day of Defiance against the Syrian regime, a rights group said, with authorities accusing 'terrorists' of killing 10 security personnel.

The violence came as the European Union agreed to impose sanctions on 13 Syrian officials involved in the regime's brutal crackdown on protests and will meet on Monday to discuss whether to target Syrian President Bashar al-Assad as well, diplomats said.

The United States warned it would take 'additional steps' against Syria if it continues its crackdown, a week after imposing tough sanctions on the Arab nation.

The Syrian rights group, Insan, put the day's toll at 26 killed but said it expected this to rise.


:cry:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:32 AM
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19. Fear of crackdown, conscription haunts Libyan capital
http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE74524H20110507?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0">Fear of crackdown, conscription haunts Libyan capital
TRIPOLI, May 7 (Reuters) - Green bunting and pictures of Muammar Gaddafi festoon a Tripoli district where two months ago protesters marched in the streets. Locals whisper on corners, youths avert their gaze. Men watch passersby from unmarked cars. The fear is palpable on Tripoli's streets, fear of speaking out and fear of conscription as NATO air strikes hit Gaddafi's forces and fighting rages in Misrata and the Western Mountains.

More than two months after an uprising against Gaddafi's 41-year rule saw rebels seize the eastern part of Libya, the army has crushed dissent in the capital and its crack down on opponents elsewhere in the west is spreading fear.

"No one wants him. If the people in Tripoli were not so scared they would rise up. They did in February, in Tajoura, in Fashloom, in Souq al-Jumaa, but he crushed them," said one shopkeeper, changing the subject when other customers came in.

In the Fashloom district, a tent flanked by a big picture of Gaddafi stands a few metres from the charred offices of the local revolutionary council, set alight during the unrest that spread briefly in late February and early March before fizzling out.


It is when power is wedded to chronic fear that it becomes formidable. - Eric Hoffer
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:50 AM
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20. Libya's ambassador to Rome says that he is now on the side of the opposition.
10:17am

Libya's ambassador to Rome says that he is now on the side of the opposition.

"I am with the people, with the rebels and against Gaddafi's regime," Abdulhafed Gaddur, who has been a Libyan diplomat in Italy since 1990, told the Corriere della Sera daily in an interview.

Gaddur says he will continue to serve in his position "until a new Libya and its new government make their choices".

Gaddur had earlier signed a document drafted by other diplomats who had abandoned Gaddafi's government, but had not publically signaled his exact position on the issue.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog


Considering that this must have been one of the more lucrative posts for a Libyan diplomat, I looked briefly into Abdulhafed Gaddur's assignment and interests. So far nothing, other than the obvious Vatican and Berlusconi connections. He does seem to have been part of the reconnection to Italian business interests, but I have nothing specific yet.

Libyan Leader Visits Italy to Mark Improved Relations
VOA Sabina Castelfranco | Rome 29 August 2010

Libyan leader Colonel Moammar Gadhafi is on a three-day visit to the Italian capital to mark the second anniversary of a pact between the two countries that normalized relations and closed the painful chapter of Italian colonization.

Colonel Gaddafi has pitched a giant traditional Bedouin tent for his three-day visit to the Italian capital. The tent has been placed in the garden of the residence of the Libyan Ambassador to Italy, Abdulhafed Gaddur.

The Libyan leader's visit to Italy will mark the second anniversary of the signing of a $6 billion accord under which Rome agreed to pay reparations for its colonial rule of Libya between 1911 and 1943.

For the occasion, an equestrian show will be held, for which Libya has sent 30 Berber horses and riders. Traveling with Colonel Gadhafi are also 40 "Amazonian" bodyguards, a unique contingent made up of just women. A gala dinner for 800 guests is also planned for after the show.

more...
http://waronterrornews.typepad.com/home/2010/08/libyan-leader-visits-italy-to-mark-improved-relations.html



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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:54 AM
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21. Misratah - Tank Destroyed By NATO
Misratah - Tank Destroyed By NATO
Von: Patriots1Of7Misratah | Erstellt: 06.05.2011
A Tank belong to gaddafi's forces near to the coastal road ... and totally destroyed by nato aircrafts ... you can notice the accuracy of the air strikes ...the nearby house which is empty of course is not damaged ...unlike the libyan government press says ..that the nato strikes kills civilians and destroys houses ..

http://youtu.be/VnjiQeUrnD4

Posted for its astonishment value. Never again will I underestimate the strength of French concrete.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 06:37 AM
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22. Donatella Rovera, Amnesty International's senior crisis advisor...
11:19am

Donatella Rovera, Amnesty International's senior crisis advisor, has just been speaking with Al Jazeera. Here's what she told us:

"The findings of our investigation so far are that the forces loyal to Colonel Gaddafi have committed widespread violations of international law in Misurata as well as elsewhere in the country. Notably, the attacks, which are indiscriminate attacks on the civilian population - that is to say, rocket attacks, attacks with artillery, with mortars as well as the use of cluster bombs in civilian populated neighbourhoods within Misurata."

"Now obviously rockets are indiscriminate, they can never be used in civilian areas. The other weapons used ... are weapons that are designed for the battlefield, and again, should not be used in residential areas."

Rovera also said that Gaddafi forces had been using residential areas to shield their tanks from NATO air strikes.

"Yes, indeed, I was able to go into neighbourhoods from which the Gaddafi forces had just evacuated, and I saw for myself tanks that were parked right between the houses in areas which are quite dense. Now apparently that was to shield the tanks from NATO attacks. That again is a serious violation of international law."

"Shielding is a war crime."

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 07:23 AM
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23. Nalut Feb17 Media Committee
May 7th 2011
Muammar brigades:
Continue the the intense and sporadic bombardment of city of Nalut with rocket launchers and Grad missiles. From 3 locations the Southeast, East and Southwest.
Have gathered in the area of Alghezaia, bringing mercenaries trying to take control of the border with Tunisia.
Are also surrounded the area of Tekoyt and Albarda as well as burning homes, destroying farms and killing live stock.
vor 28 Minuten · Gefällt mir · Kommentieren

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nalut-Feb17-Media-Committee/113462242072872?sk=wall

That's the only post there, but it may be used later as an outlet for news for english speakers
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:09 AM
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24. Libyan ambassador to Rome spells out defection
Libyan ambassador to Rome spells out defection
AFP , Saturday 7 May 2011

"I am with the people, with the rebels and against Gaddafi's regime," Abdulhafed Gaddur, who has been a Libyan diplomat in Italy since 1990, told the Corriere della Sera daily in an interview.

"I will stay in my post until a new Libya and its new government make their choices," said Gaddur.

...

The ambassador signed a document in February drafted by defectors from the regime pledging support for the Libyan people but had not spelled out his exact position and his status is unclear even though he retains his title.

An unsourced report in business daily Il Sole 24 Ore after international talks on Libya in Rome on Thursday said that the anti-Gaddafi leadership had asked Italy to replace the ambassador with their own nominee.

more...

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/11557/World/Region/Libyan-ambassador-to-Rome-spells-out-defection.aspx



Such a steadfast loyalist...to his villa in Rome.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:18 AM
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25. Obstacles Loom on Path to Funding Libyans

Obstacles Loom on Path to Funding Libyans
MIDDLE EAST NEWS MAY 7, 2011

By CASSELL BRYAN-LOW And DEBORAH BALL

The U.S. and other countries that seek to hand frozen assets of Col. Moammar Gadhafi's regime to rebels that seek to overthrow him face political and legal obstacles that could slow the delivery of funds.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday said the Obama administration was working with Congress to pass legislation allowing the Treasury Department to release Libyan assets that it froze in response to the Libyan leader's crackdown on protesters. The U.S. has frozen more than $34 billion of assets related to the Gadhafi regime; billions of dollars more have been frozen elsewhere.

To get frozen assets to the Libyan opposition is fraught with complexities. "It is a lot more complicated than saying we are going to unfreeze these assets and hand them over," says Harriet Territt, a London-based lawyer at Jones Day.

The U.K., for instance, is keen to help address humanitarian needs, but needs to clear a number of complex obstacles, said a person familiar with the situation. "We're considering a number of options to do this and we will see what is legally possible," a spokesman for the U.K.'s Foreign Office said.

more...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704810504576307251084940750.html
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:37 AM
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26. Huge fire at Misrata fuel terminal still burning.
Edited on Sat May-07-11 08:43 AM by Iterate
cjchivers CJ Chivers
Huge fire at Misrata fuel terminal still burning. Smoke rolls over the city.
vor 30 Minuten

ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
Destruction of Misrata fuel depot: There goes 6 months worth of reserves. Seems like Gaddafi is jealous that he doesn't have any fuel #libya
vor 33 Minuten

BTW, fuel in Misrata is electricity, it's water.

ETA, Whether this was caused by regime rockets, helicopters, or small aircraft isn't yet confirmed, but this much is undeniable:


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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:54 AM
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27. Gaddafi planes 'destroy Misurata fuel tanks'
Edited on Sat May-07-11 09:16 AM by Iterate
Gaddafi planes 'destroy Misurata fuel tanks'

Gaddafi forces used small planes for the overnight attack in Qasr Ahmed close to Misurata port.
Last Modified: 07 May 2011 12:03

Libyan government forces dropped bombs on four large oil storage tanks in the contested western city of Misurata, destroying the tanks and sparking a fire that spread to four more, a rebel spokesman said on Saturday.

Government forces used small, pesticides spraying planes for the overnight attack in Qasr Ahmed close to the port, said spokesman Ahmed Hassan.

Rebels notified NATO about the planes before the attack but there was no response, he said.

Government forces last month flew at least one helicopter reconnaissance mission over Misurata, according to rebels.

more...

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/05/201157112432539341.html



I want to add before edit time expires that the use of aircraft still hasn't been independently verified. These early reports have been wrong before, even if they have been repeated by AJE or Reuters.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 08:56 AM
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28. Don't know if you saw this Pew Poll the other day.
Was the UN intervention in Libya a wrong or right decision?

.........................................Wrong decision..............Right decision
Staunch Conservatives...............49%.............................37%
Main Street Republicans.............39...............................47
Libertarians................................47...............................37
Disaffecteds...............................43...............................32
Post-Moderns............................30...............................53
New Coalition Democrats...........30...............................55
Hard-Pressed Democrats...........32...............................40
Solid Liberals.............................25...............................58

Total..........................................37...............................45

It's nice to see that the more liberal/Democratic the voter the more supportive they are of the UN's Libya intervention.

http://people-press.org/typology/quiz/

Apparently you have to take the on line poll which then takes you to the results page where you can find information on how different political groupings voted on different issues.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:26 PM
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32. Interesting. Thanks.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 09:54 AM
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29. Kadhafi choppers 'bore Red Cross' emblem: rebels
Kadhafi choppers 'bore Red Cross' emblem: rebels

(AFP) – 1 hour ago

BENGHAZI, Libya — Libyan rebels accused the forces of Libyan strongman Moamer Kadhafi of using helicopters bearing the Red Cross emblem of dropping mines into the harbour of the besieged city Misrata.

NATO confirmed that helicopters had flown over the city on Thursday in breach of the no-fly zone its war planes are supposed to enforce, but it could not confirm that the choppers were marked with the Red Cross sign.

Suleiman Fortiya, who represents Misrata on the Benghazi-based opposition National Transitional Council said small helicopters flew over Misrata on Thursday and Friday to drop mines in the rebels' major western hold-out.

He said the choppers had been disguised as humanitarian aircraft carrying the emblems of the International Committee of the Red Cross and Red Crescent.

more...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i-gZI_6hGmnPbI1MLAMXWSppP05g?docId=CNG.a740a5ae46d97d889302532f100f898e.5e1

Do read, because there's too much to quote.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:13 AM
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30. Aljazeera Opinion piece: "Sovereign Libya: A letter to Vladimir Putin"
posted in GD by pampango

Aljazeera Opinion piece: "Sovereign Libya: A letter to Vladimir Putin"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1057709

Go ahead, argue against Putin; I dare you.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 10:59 AM
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31. Saudi Arabia stops Libya rebel FM from using airspace
Saudi Arabia stops Libya rebel FM from using airspace
AFP , Saturday 7 May 2011

The acting foreign minister of Libya's rebel government cancelled a trip to Qatar on Saturday after Saudi Arabia refused to allow his plane to use its airspace, Cairo airport officials said.

The officials said Ali al-Isawi's plane stopped in Cairo to refuel on its way from Rome when Saudi Arabia informed the crew that they would not be allowed to fly through its airspace.

Isawi returned to Benghazi, the rebel's stronghold in eastern Libya, after waiting several hours in Cairo, they said. They did not explain why Saudi Arabia barred the plane.

Qatar and the United Arab Emirates are the only Arab countries that joined a NATO coalition in enforcing a UN sanctioned no-fly zone over Libya after leader Moamer Khadafi appeared poised to win back rebel controlled territories.

http://english.ahram.org.eg/~/NewsContent/2/8/11603/World/Region/Saudi-Arabia-stops-Libya-rebel-FM-from-using-airsp.aspx

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 12:46 PM
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33.  Rebel Art: Libyan Youth Find Outlet In Sketches, Song
Young people are heavily involved in the uprising now underway in Libya: They are members of the rebel military; they are working to help form a new government. They are also producing revolutionary artwork, publications and music.

.....

About a mile away, just off Revolution Square, more substantive creations are taking shape. This is the Media Center for the 17th of February Revolution — a dingy, dog-eared building bustling day and night with frenetic 20- and 30-somethings trying to process what's going on in Libya.

On the second floor, a cottage industry of sorts has developed, producing anti-Moammar Gadhafi posters. The walls are plastered with mainly black and white cartoons of the leader.



http://www.npr.org/2011/05/07/136036361/rebel-art-libyan-youth-find-outlet-in-sketches-song
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:27 PM
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34. Berber Rebellion & Gaddafi

Sat May 07, 2011 at 10:02 AM PDT
Berber Rebellion & Gaddafi

by niccolo caldararo

In the forgotten mountains of western Libya a terrible struggle is going on. Berber rebels and their Arab allies are fighting a loosing war against better armed Gaddafi military and militia. No Nato aid has arrived and the Gaddafi forces are taking no quarter and firing on the old, the infirm and women and children. Ignored by the world the Berbers are fighting for their existence. Protected in part by the rugged territory of the Nafusa Mountains, they have been able to hold off Gaddafi forces until the last three weeks when a new offensive has broken rebel lines. The Berbers need no foreign troops to help, they need arms and ammunition. Nato air cover would be effective but even if Nato bombed roads and bridges the effect would be to slow Gaddafi forces and allow the Berbers to regroup. Nato planes have been seen in the sky but little has been done. Now is the time for Nato and the US to act. A Berber presence or victory over the Gaddafi forces threatens vital supply lines to Gaddafi from the resource-rich Ghadames basin to the south. Should rebels in the Nafusa succeed and link with rebel tribes in the Kufra area, Gaddafi is finished. A minor investment by Nato now will make all the difference.

The fall of the city of Gharyan on March 1st signaled the pro-Gaddafi invasion of the Nafusa region. Gaddafi has persecuted the Berbers throughout his reign, banning their language and signs of ethnicity. Other cities have fallen since and in each case Gaddafi terrorists have gone door to door carrying out murders of suspected rebels and their families. Currently a savage battle rages around the city of Zintan where rebel Berber and Arab allies are surrounded by Gaddafi forces with tanks and rocket launchers. The city is being bombarded by pro-Gaddafi shells night and day killing hundreds of civilians. The battle for Libya will be won or lost in the Nafusa. Information and independent sources have been posted on Wikipedia for this struggle (http://en.wikipedia.org/...) and (http://en.wikipedia.org/...).

al-Jazeera reports today that Nato failed to defend Misurata against pro-Gaddafi air attacks that destroyed Misurata's oil and petro storage tanks (http://english.aljazeera.net/) but also on the failure of Nato planes to neutralize pro-Gaddafi tanks and rocket launchers in Nafusa out side Zintan. It is obvious that Nato cannot deal effectively with the situation and American drones are needed to force Gaddafi's forces out of the Nafusa.

Strangely enough, Gaddafi is a member of an Arabized Berber tribe so one might imagine that his oppression of the Berbers originates from not only a dogmatic modernism, but a psychology of self-hatred.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/07/946332/-Berber-RebellionGaddafi?showAll=yes

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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 01:53 PM
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35. NATO News
NAPLES - NATO aircraft destroyed several Qadhafi regime mobile rocket launchers and missiles on Friday morning as part of the NATO mission to protect Libyan civilians from attack. The weapons were located south of Sirte and were struck using a number of precision guided bombs to minimize the risk to innocent people.
http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/news_73372.htm

Key Targets Hit
06 May:
In the vicinity of Zintan: 3 Tanks.
In the vicinity of Tripoli: 8 Ammunition Storages.
In the vicinity of Mizdah: 4 Ammunition Storages.
In the vicinity of Misurata: 1 Self-Propelled Artillery Piece, 1 Heavy Equipment Transport, 8 Military Trucks, 1 Building hosting snipers.
In the vicinity of Sirte: 8 Ammunition Storages, 1 Command & Control Facility.
In the vicinity of Ras Lanuf: 1 Command & Control Facility.
In the vicinity of Brega: 4 Tanks, 5 Rocket Launchers.

Arms Embargo Activities
A total of 20 ships under NATO command are actively patrolling the Central Mediterranean.
12 Vessels were hailed on 06 May to determine destination and cargo. 1 boarding (no diversion) was conducted.
A total of 836 vessels have been hailed, 32 boardings and 5 diversions have been conducted since the beginning of arms embargo operations.

International Humanitarian Assistance Movements as recorded by NATO
Total of Humanitarian Movements***: 164 (air, ground, maritime)
Ships delivering Humanitarian Assistance 06 May: 3
Aircraft delivering Humanitarian Assistance 06 May: 0
***Some humanitarian movements cover several days.


http://www.nato.int/nato_static/assets/pdf/pdf_2011_05/20110507_110507-oup-update.pdf
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 02:02 PM
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36. Tunisia warns Libya over shelling of border town
TUNIS May 7 (Reuters) - Tunisia warned Libya that it considered the shelling of a border town on Saturday "extremely dangerous" and said it would take all necessary measures to protect its sovereignty.

Close to 100 shells or mortar rounds fell on or near the Tunisian border town of Dehiba on Saturday, causing no injuries but doing damage to one house, a Reuters witness said. The shelling sent residents scurrying for safety.

The town has been hit repeatedly by stray shells in recent weeks as forces loyal to Libya's Muammar Gaddafi battle rebels for control of the Dehiba-Wazzin border crossing.

The crossing gives the rebels, fighting to end Gaddafi's rule of more than four decades, a road from the outside world into strongholds in Libya's Western Mountains region.

http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE7460AG20110507
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 02:15 PM
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37. Fierce clashes near the western Libyan town of Zintan
Edited on Sat May-07-11 02:22 PM by Iterate
8:54pm
Fierce clashes near the western Libyan town of Zintan killed at least nine rebel fighters and wounded 50 others on Saturday, an AFP correspondent and medics said.
http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog

4Adam Adam
May7th #Yefren Ongoing battle in the Zawiet Albagool b/w G forces & #Nafusa rebels. At least one martyr fr rebels. 31°59'27"N 12°26'10"E
vor 3 Stunden

4Adam Adam
The fight is still going on arnd #Yefren. These r places whr rebels r fighting G forces<31°58'33.43"N 12°29'50.24"E>< 31°59'27"N 12°26'10"E>
vor 2 Stunden

4Adam Adam
@
@doood54 It's up on the Nafusa mt. FF attacked G forces. I am hearing that FFs are in control of that area now
vor 2 Stunden

4Adam Adam
May7th: #Nalut the indiscriminate shelling continued on Nalut and Wazin by Grad rockets launched from Ghazaya town #Nafusa #Libya #Feb17
vor 2 Stunden

4Adam Adam
8martyrs 30+ wounded arrived at #Zintan hospital. The hospital has no enough medical staff and supplies to handle the wounded #Nafusa #Feb17
vor 1 Stunde

4Adam Adam
#Nafusa: we keep hearing from diffnt sources abt cases of #rape in Qwaleesh by Gaddafi's soldiers. The town is still under Gaddafi's control
vor 1 Stunde

4Adam Adam
On ground sources: Gaddafi's heavy military presence East #Qalaa and #Yefren http://twitpic.com/4uoref/full @NATO @natopress #Libya #Nafusa
vor 24 Minuten

feb17voices Feb 17 voices
LPC #Jadu: URGENT: there are currently heavy clashes between #Yefren & #Zintan at Alawinyah #libya #feb17
vor 1 Stunde

ETA:
FromJoanne Joanne
#Zintan FF have 2 G Colonels captured Zintan is cut off from rest of area Men trying 2 lv are kidnapped #Libya
vor 1 Stunde

FromJoanne Joanne
#Zintan FF is trying to trade some of their 50 captured #Gaddafi army with missing youth #Libya
vor 1 Stunde
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 02:43 PM
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39. Interesting last comment. Thanks for the sequence. Easier to read in 1 post.
I guess everyone knows that

vor 1 Stunde = 1 hour ago.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 03:43 PM
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45. I can't make sense unless it's a narrative.
and sometime the point is lost unless it's listed that way.

And as for the Stunde bit, what many people probably don't know is that unless you sign up for an account (nope, too stubborn), every support and social website under the sun defaults to a language based on your IP, It's really irritating, as is the constant youtube message "not available in your country."

"Es ist in deinem Land nicht verfügbar. Das tut uns leid." Pricks.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 03:06 PM
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40. K/R -- Libya Hurra!!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 03:09 PM
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42. Kick -- Thanks for the tremendous amount of work involved in keeping these threads going ....
Edited on Sat May-07-11 03:09 PM by defendandprotect
and so beautifully -- I'm way to far behind to ever catch up --

but it's a record any journalist could be proud of!!

Thanks to you all!!

:)
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 03:23 PM
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44. Who keeps up?
Just pick a day and hang on. And you see something we missed (and that's plenty), post it. Hell, I made a living for a whole week just posting tweets with the word "Kufra" in them.

And here's one now:

libi4ever Soliman Albrassi
Kufra under FF control,mercenary from Mali,Chad,Somalia were caught. G forces leader managed 2 escape #libya #17feb
vor 3 Stunden
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 06:04 PM
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53. Another day, another dollar :)
After my motherboard gave up the ghost last night (that was my problem all along), I just got back
online with a loaner the shop gave me while they do a custom build (and they never give loaners).

Despite the cost, it's a relief to know that I'll end up with something reliable.

Nice job you guys are doing on the thread. Any questions I have about Kufra, I'll come to you. :)


:hi:






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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 06:26 PM
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54. Oh I still don't know Kufra
Today seemed as much about what wasn't true as what was true. I think Chivers got it right, again. Be sure to checkout tabatha's latest "Women Against the Hangman". Stories like that make it all worthwhile - even new build. I know that woman's story will have me back here tomorrow. GN from GMT+2.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:20 PM
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46. Zintan: battle finished minutes ago...Gaddafi forces retreating & defeated
ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
Zintan: The battle started in the early morning and only finished a few minutes ago, with Gaddafi forces retreating & defeated #libya
vor 25 Minuten

ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
Speaking of Zintan: 9 freedom fighters died today, but they killed 70 Gaddafi soldiers, destroyed a few tanks/launchers and regained a city
vor 31 Minuten

ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
Gaddafi's propaganda: (2/2) while Gaddafi led the most daring attack against Zintan in weeks... but freedom fighters still won thankfully
vor 31 Minuten

acarvin Andy Carvin
von ChangeInLibya
Talking with one of my sources in the Nafusa mountains, near the battle for #Yefren. Will report soon.
vor 29 Minuten
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 02:25 PM
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38. Audio: LPC #Jadu: Summarizes activities in Nafusa Mountains
feb17voices

LPC #Jadu: Summarizes activities in Nafusa Mountains #Libya #feb17
about 2 hours ago

http://audioboo.fm/boos/350796-lpc-jadu-summarizes-activities-in-nafusa-mountains-libya-feb17
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 03:08 PM
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41. Libya Tadreft (Tamazight Free Libya) website
Libya Tadreft which means in Tamazight Free Libya, is a website dedicated to the 17 February revolution in the Nefusa mountain. From this website is our voice, voice of freedom, voice of Imazighen to the world.

http://libyatadreft.com/

Amazigh Libyan Free Speach

Imazighen of Libya have long struggled to uphold their language, cultural rights and their identity under Gaddafi's regime.

Psychological pressure and random discrimination were exerted on the Amazigh Community in Libya.

No Amazigh mother could transmit her heritage by naming her child in the Tamazight tongue.

The Amazigh language had never been recognized under Gaddafi's regime and banned from schools and universities. All forms of communication in Tamazight had been censored including the written press and news broadcasts.

Even Amazigh thoughts were banned under the Gaddafi regime - our thinkers and scholars were arrested for expressing their academic works in Tifinagh - Tamazight script.

We as the Imazighen of the Jabal Nafusa area believe that our sisters and brothers in Libya share the same Amazigh blood - it has been passed to them through the centuries - our roots are the same.

Our new Libya shall be the country where the clear, ancient voices of the Amazigh will join in the Libyan song of freedom.

http://libyatadreft.com/


Lately the website has had more english as well as tamazight and arabic content. It's definitely worth checking often and has regular translated updates from the region. If it sounds like I'm selling something, that's because I am.

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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:28 PM
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47. Forces loyal to Gaddafi attacked the remote eastern oil town of Jalu
Edited on Sat May-07-11 04:46 PM by Iterate
11:00pm

Forces loyal to Gaddafi attacked the remote eastern oil town of Jalu in the Libyan desert on Saturday, but the town remains in rebel hands, a rebel spokesman said.

The town, south of the eastern frontline near Adjdabiyah, has been attacked by Gaddafi forces more than once since the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi's rule began in mid-February.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog

Jalu is about 550km north of Kufra and ~300km south of Brega.

ETA:

Gaddafi forces attack remote oil town-rebels
Sat May 7, 2011 8:58pm GMT

BENGHAZI, Libya May 7 (Reuters) - Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi attacked the remote eastern oil town of Jalu in the Libyan desert on Saturday, but the town remains in rebel hands, a rebel spokesman said.

The town, south of the eastern frontline near Adjdabiyah, has been attacked by Gaddafi forces more than once since the uprising against Muammar Gaddafi's rule began in mid-February.

With fighting on the eastern frontline stalled along the coast, rebels have said they suspect Gaddafi's forces are trying to hem in the rebel-held east by moving south through the desert all the way up to Tobruk near the Egyptian border.

"From time to time, he has attacked using armoured vehicles and today he repeated the same thing and attacked Jalu," the rebel National Council spokesman Abdel Hafiz Ghoga told a news conference.

more...
http://af.reuters.com/article/libyaNews/idAFLDE7460D820110507
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 04:43 PM
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48. Unconfirmed reports that a migrant boat laden with 600 men, women and children
6:36pm

Unconfirmed reports that a migrant boat laden with 600 men, women and children, mostly African refugees has sunk off the coast of Tripoli.

Most are feared dead but a rescue operation is said to be underway and some bodies have been already recovered.

http://blogs.aljazeera.net/live/africa/libya-live-blog

This sat unconfirmed...until now

channel4news C4 Newsroom blogger
UNHCR confirms to c4news that a boat carrying migrant workers has sunk off the coast of Tripoli #c4news #Libya
vor 44 Minuten
http://twitter.com/#!/channel4news


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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:04 PM
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49. “Libya creates opportunity for relation between Arabs and West”
Published on 7 May 2011 by Libya TV

“Libya creates opportunity for relation between Arabs and West”

“The way the Libyan crisis has developed has created a very important new opportunity for the relations between the Arab world and the West”, says UN High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres. Unfortunately, “I see the debate in Europe more centred on the questions of closing the borders or the risk of people coming from the south into Europe, than centred on support for democracy.”

The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees António Guterres, also a former prime minister of Portugal, reflected on the Arab revolts during a discussion on 5 May organised by the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C. “First of all, to be absolutely frank, I think that there is not yet in Europe and there is not yet in North America a clear understanding of what really in my opinion is at stake in the Lotus and the Jasmine Revolutions” Guterres said.

“I am afraid that there is not yet a clear understanding of how important it is to guarantee the success of a democratic experience in these two countries, but also from the point of view of the region and from the point of view of global peace and security. I don’t think we are there and I think that all of us need to make more efforts to convince people about the urgency.”

Regarding the on-going crisis in Libya, Guterres criticised the mixed reactions in Europe in particular. “I see Europe to be honest too divided in relation to the situation in Northern Africa. Regarding Libya we have seen Germany against the intervention, with France and Britain assuming a very active role. I see the debate in Europe more centred on the questions of closing the borders or the risk of people coming from the south into Europe, than centred on support for democracy and to democracy development in the area. I also believe that the way the Libyan crisis has developed has created a very important new opportunity when one thinks about the relationship between the Arab world or the Muslim world and the Western world.”

more...
http://english.libya.tv/2011/05/07/%E2%80%9Clibya-creates-opportunity-for-relation-between-arabs-and-west%E2%80%9D/


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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:20 PM
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50. Pro-Gadhafi forces bomb fuel depots in contested Libyan city
CNN update for the day.

Pro-Gadhafi forces bomb fuel depots in contested Libyan city
By the CNN Wire Staff
May 7, 2011 -- Updated 1917 GMT (0317 HKT)

Tripoli, Libya (CNN) -- Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's forces bombed key fuel depots in the contested city of Misrata Saturday, destroying six containers and causing a massive fire, a rebel spokesman said.

Meanwhile, in the de facto rebel capital, Benghazi, the Libyan opposition said Italy has agreed to arm the rebels.

Abdul Hafiz Ghoga, deputy chairman of the National Transitional Council, said opposition representatives have flown to Italy to finish the deal.

The Italian Foreign Ministry categorically denied it will send weapons to Libya. A press office spokesman said Italy will only go as far as sending non-lethal weapons such as satellite and radar systems to aid the rebels.

more...
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/05/07/libya.war/

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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:35 PM
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51. Libya Strikes Fuel Supply in City Held by Rebels
Libya Strikes Fuel Supply in City Held by Rebels
By C. J. CHIVERS
Published: May 7, 2011

MISURATA, Libya — Military forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi struck the fuel terminal of this rebel-controlled city early Saturday with ground-to-ground rockets, igniting a fire that threatened the city’s fuel supply.

...

At least one rocket hit a set of three mammoth tanks, which ruptured and burst into a fireball. The fire settled into a leaping blaze that towered overheard, visible for miles. Its glow illuminated the eastern section of the city throughout the night. Residents woke to a thick, drifting cloud of black smoke.

...

The impact craters and twisted remains of other ground-to-ground rockets were visible around the remaining tanks.

The tail section of one variant of a Grad rocket — a cold war-era munitions made in the 1980s in what is now Slovakia, and one of the most common fired on this city — was visibly stuck in the soil near the fire.


more...

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/08/world/middleeast/08libya.html?_r=1



No cropduster, no helicopter in this incident; just more rocket attacks.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-11 05:45 PM
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52. Women Against the Hangman
Amal Abdullah-Ali is 44, so she has known only two years without Muammar el-Qaddafi, and one effect on her of his life-draining 42-year Libyan dictatorship has been that she “never wanted to give birth in this rubbish country.”

She looked at me hard through thick glasses, the childbearing half of her life lost in Qaddafi’s grim labyrinth. When she was in high school, she had to read his Green Book, which lauds the masses in a state that tramples the masses. In college, her class was taken to see people Qaddafi had hanged — pour encourager les autres.

“He’s tried to change everything, even our memory,” she said. “Now we win or we die.”

People ask: Who are the Libyan “rebels”? Who are the people who now control the eastern part of the country, and besieged western pockets, and battle to wrest Libya from Qaddafi’s brutal hired hands? They are women like Abdullah-Ali, a teacher, people who want a state where, in the words of her cousin Farija Mohamed, “The walls don’t have ears.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/08/opinion/08cohen.html?_r=1
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55. Day 80 here:
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