Washington Post columnist criticizes Mike Malloy's Monday comment about shooting GW Bush

Colbert King, a Washington Post columnist whom I've never heard of, claims in his latest column " Caution: Words can inflame" that Mike Malloy sank to Glenn Beck's level on Monday's program when Malloy said: “So when does SEAL Unit 6, or whatever it’s called, drop in on George Bush?” regarding Malloy's opinion that Bush was responsible for more deaths (through the wars) than was bin Laden.



And then King goes on to compare that with wingnut commentary:



And King concludes:



I thought that liberals wanted more civil discourse after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords got shot. So I guess that Malloy can't complain about right-wing incivility and violent rhetoric anymore. I bet that a message like Malloy's remark about shooting Bush would've been deleted by DU admins for violating the rules. Oh, the only left-wing radio show I listen to right now is Thom Hartmann, and I sure as hell have never heard Hartmann advocating/glorifying violent actions on his show; Thom sure keeps it civil.

And while inciting violence should be a crime, should radio hosts watch their language in case some insane wacko Jared Loughner type might misinterpret their words violently?

as bad as the far right.

than osama did..and should be changed with war crimes...

However, I now listen to Rachel at that time slot, followed by Ed and LO rerun. I love LO's (an avowed socialist) bashing - it is classy.

And I could not do without a Rachel fix every day.

Would you have refused to fire on Nazis to prevent imminent slaughter on the same reasoning?

And Molloy would need to be in deep deep water indeed to sink to the level of some right wingers.

Give a list so we know who you approve of that aren't what you consider too "extreme." :shrug:

I can not stand his show and I can't stand him.

and I've only heard one Malloy clip on YouTube via political videos forum and the clip of the Bush comment when I searched it up on YouTube (uploaded by a Michael Savage fan though). So I guess that Colbert King was right about Malloy after all based on my reading other comments and yours.

is going on in this country.

Hes right about a lot of stuff but also makes highly incendiary comments that constantly get held up by the mainstream and conservative press as proof that lefties are just as violent as right-wingers.

Whenever I hear anyone make the whole false equivalency argument, Malloy is almost always the liberal they hold up in comparison to Limbaugh and Beck. It pisses me the fuck off because basically one liberal media personality is making it possible for the left to be smeared in this way.

you'd think that more conservatives would be denouncing Beck/Limbaugh if they didn't want their ideology reflected by those fools. But guess which ideology has a softer spot for violence? And even George W. Bush is proud to boast of his death penalty record as governor of Texas having overseen more executions there than in any other state.

epitome of outlandishness of the left. The trick is to have someone who is worthy of that position. Malloy's rants are righteous and true. At least he is not a lunatic like Orly Taitz, and his anger at the right is totally justified.

If Malloy wasn't there, they would just select someone else. The false equivalence has been used with many on the left. Even Jon Stewart was constantly criticizing Olbermann and others on MSNBC as being left equivalents of FAUX.

You know the right will criticize anything. Just look at what they are trying to do to the president about killing OBL. It doesn't make any difference what you say or do, they will always find fault. Stop apologizing to them. Stop buying their shit.

Malloy may not be everyone's preference. That's okay. He does however, fill in the spectrum of left opinions and is appreciated by many for his honesty and passion. I honor him for that.

anywhere on Cable, Network. I also read the MSM Press. NYT, WaPo, WSJ, Economist, Guardian, Financial Blogs and TPM, FDL,Huff Post and Daily Beast. I have never seen Mike Malloy's name mentioned as some "Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh" of the Left. In fact, his name is never in print.

So, you are really not being factual in what you say. In fact, given the amount I read every day, I feel confident in saying you made that all up.

From the description, Malloy isn't necessarily calling for violence. SEAL Team 6 seems capable of keeping fingers off triggers if they want. And it's true that Bush, et al. broke informational law and committed war crimes. Ask me? SEAL Team 6 SHOULD round them up.

Why are Democrats always so eager to throw someone under the bus?

Sounded more like a 'shoot first, ask questions later . . . or not at all' type of thing.

This really does sound like something Rush Limbaugh would say.

Then you might have something there. As it stands, no. Equating this to something Limbaugh would say is just silly.

They rounded up and took away, dead and alive... not sure how you missed that.

is just as bad or worse than just about any right winger know of. I am surprised he has gone this long without being taken of the air.

I didn't hear the show referenced here, so I'm only going by the quote you offer from Colbert King (and from his article which I just read in full), but I don't see the evidence that Malloy made a "comment about shooting GW Bush", as you colored it in your headline.

Do you have any more on that? Or are you just going with King's interpretation which is either accurate or not, but seems to be pretty thin, as based on the evidence he offers, in any case.

(Disclosure: I'm the regular guest host of the Mike Malloy Show, though I have nothing to do with what he has to say on the show, and vice versa.)

of course an armed Navy SEAL unit. Given the team's actions toward bin Laden is it not clear what Malloy is implying?

Oh, Bradblog is a cool website, and thank you for breaking the story about the open ballot bags in Wisconsin and contributing many other LBN stories here on DU.

No, its not clear.

You must think that the Seals are just murderers?

Malloy must be wishing that they do the same to Bush

"Given the team's actions toward bin Laden is it not clear what Malloy is implying?"

No. Not without hearing what he actually said. The team went on a mission (reportedly) to CAPTURE the criminal bin Laden. Again, while I didn't hear the show you and King refer to, I find it VERY hard to believe that Malloy would call for the assassination of ANY President, much less call for "shooting GW Bush" as your headline claims.

You did not post any evidence for that very serious charge. What you posted does NOT say that, and it seems a charge as serious as that should be backed up with evidence before being forwarded here (or in WaPo, for that matter).

"Oh, Bradblog is a cool website, and thank you for breaking the story about the open ballot bags in Wisconsin and contributing many other LBN stories here on DU."

Appreciate the kind words, alp227. And I'm not attempting to attack you here. I'm simply asking for the evidence to support the very serious charge you made. Knee-jerk reactions, no matter if they're yours, Colbert King's or Malloy's are a help to nobody and we should ALL do our best to steer clear of them. There are enough TRULY bad guys out there who do this sort of thing on purpose. I see no reason to do so ourselves, unless and until warranted.

A right-wing YouTuber posted the audio of Malloy's statement under title "Lib Talker: When Will Navy SEALs Take Out George W. Bush?"

While I agree with the hypocrisy over the Bush war crime gang not being charged with anything while whistleblowers like Bradley Manning, etc. get detained/intimidated, mentioning SEAL Unit 6 crossed the line of good taste a little and served as RW bait.

"A right-wing YouTuber posted the audio of Malloy's statement under title 'Lib Talker: When Will Navy SEALs Take Out George W. Bush?'"

Right. And you, I'll presume NOT a right-winger, claimed that Malloy made about "comment about shooting GW Bush," when he didn't.

I'd expect that kind of opportunistic, inaccurate "twisting" from RWers, but before we do their work for them, it seems we should be a lot more careful. (That is true for both you AND Colbert King, and the others on this thread who simply presumed your headline was accurate, when it was not.)

"While I agree with the hypocrisy over the Bush war crime gang not being charged with anything while whistleblowers like Bradley Manning, etc. get detained/intimidated, mentioning SEAL Unit 6 crossed the line of good taste a little and served as RW bait."

Had you headlined your article and/or made your argument that way, I'd not likely have even noticed it, much less jumped in to question you. While I think Malloy's sentiments were pretty darned clear (now that I've heard the clip you pointed to, thanks), and knowing him enough to know he'd be highly unlikely to call on anybody to "shoot GW Bush" anytime, anywhere -- much less over our public airwaves on a nationally syndicated show -- the way you phrased your concern above is certainly a legitimate point to make, even if I may (or may not) disagree with it.

But to forward the inaccurate, and very serious charge, that Malloy "comment about shooting GW Bush," seems as reckless, if not more so, than what you are NOW suggesting the Malloy did. No?

given what the unit did to bin Laden recently Malloy's words to some people (not me now that you pointed it out) may think that Malloy was thinking about the Navy Seals wanting to shoot Bush when he said the day after it happened: “So when does SEAL Unit 6, or whatever it’s called, drop in on George Bush?”

...and I suspect many may do so purposely and opportunistically. But I see no reason that those of us NOT inclined to want to twist and/or MISinterpret his words should help them by posting articles with headlines suggesting that he made comments about "shooting GW Bush" when even the original post you pointed to offered no actual evidence that he did any such thing.

I don't get this at all.

hundreds of innocents are even more disgusting.

did you mean Presidents Bush and Obama?

I quit listening to him years ago. I don't want to go down to the wacky right, I want to stay well above them.

:sarcasm:

--immediately at hand. My bet would be that he'd go quietly.

I hope he doesn't do it again.

haven't listened again since

I first started listening to Malloy on the now-defunct ieAmerica webcast shortly after the Chimperor was selected by the Supreme Court. There wasn't a whole lot of left-sided talk radio in those days, but he was a good example. He was very calm and reasonable, but he had this entertaining way of "Hulking out" whenever a right-winger called in. Now he seems to be in "Hulk" mode all the time, and it's frankly tiresome.

Malloy couldn't have been more on the mark.

And even if this was just a typical rancor-filled snarky remark by Mallow, the topic is deadly serious and perfectly reasonable: If indirectly plotting the death of 3,000 Americans should get the death penalty, what kind of penalty should a person get for indirectly but willfully causing the death of many more than 3,000 Americans?

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to know exactly what he said!

And I don't monitor them very often because their rawness makes it easier to monitor the national ones, so this is just a TINY sample from the past few weeks:

* "dirty Arabs."

* "our piece-of-crap Muslim president."

* "we'll finally be rid of OBAMA"

* Assorted personal attacks on local Democratic office holders, of the "spineless" variety.



As I say, this is TINY. I've written letters to the station, the owners of the conglomerate, the office holders and gotten literally zilch in response because it's free speech. And it's not lost on me that free speech is a core value of my Dem/Lib pov.

I too think Malloy goes too far too often. I wish he would tone it down. We are better than them.

There's a difference. A big one.

on that day because the hypocrisy is overwhelming.

Massive, uninformed, incendiary statements that serve no purpose other than to be a heartless jerk.

Anyone who hopes that a US President gets shot is a massive nut job. This guy is no better than Limbaugh or Beck.

Didn't "call for" it. Didn't even "wish" it.

Words have meaning, and Colbert I. Whoziss at the WaPo didn't much care for paying attention to what was said.

I suspect, based on your words, that you're utterly unfamiliar with Malloy, the show he does or the fact that he has spent more being the ONLY "lib'rul media" willing to push back than most other "liberal" talkers all told even have on the air.

But by all means, let's throw him under the bus because of something someone wrote that someone else read about something Malloy didn't even say "hopes that a US President gets shot."

And we DARE wonder why it's so hard to oppose right-wing messaging! We're too busy attacking our own.

http://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2652/noam_chomsky_my_reaction_to_os/

Bush's body count currently tops 1,000,000+. But don't let that number deter you from bashing Malloy, Chomsky, et. al.

N.B. I want it clearly understood that I in now way favor extra-judicial assassinations of anyone anywhere under any circumstances. Period.

have listened to him on and off for quite a few years, but have noticed a distinct change in the

last few months. I can barely listen to him any more. It's a shame.

Why is this guy still spewing this bs?

This same asshat also said that he hoped Glenn Beck would kill himself. What an asshole. If he were Republican, he would be a Freeper.

tends to indicate you're far more Freeperish than Malloy could be in a million years. "Tool?" "Freeper?" Those who live in glass houses . . .

I'm not sure what the big deal is. Who here hasn't said Bush should go to jail, or Bush should be tried at the Hague, or Bush killed more people by lying our way into wars.

I'm waiting for Bush to get a visit by someone myself... he's killed more people than OBL, I'm not sure what the issue is.

Malloy pushes things to the edge, but I've never heard him go over the line... and he never said anything about shooting Bush. If there is some rogue Navy SEAL outfit out there that might take this seriously, then there may be an issue. I doubt there is, so the point seems moot.

When he isn't basing his arguments on insults and personal attacks, those are his good nights.

Mike Malloy is on his last leg - and should watch what he says.

Liberals get fired - not Limbaugh, not Beck

its no big deal, but when a personality on the left says it.. They start screaming! Biggest freaking hypocrites live in the Republican dream land.

the heroes are attacked on their Home Ground.

Mike Malloy will probably be "under the bus" with everyone else now that the "list" grows longer of folks who are "sooooo..offended" by the people who worked hard for the Dem Party as activists.

Your post is shaded.

He's a sad little troll that makes petty, embarrassing comments. He's no different than Rush Limbaugh.

No one would know about him except some loyal folks here and there who've been with him since his first radio show. He hardly has a huge following.

Why are you so afraid of him that you seem to want him censored? That's fascinating.

Do you have some links of books of his that have gotten huge readership like Beck, O'Reilly or Limbaugh?

Sales Figures of how his books are read by wide audiences where he might have a huge following that will turn out Progressives to March in the Streets for Labor, Female and Health Care Rights?

I sure would like to see why you are so afraid of him.

He doesn't have a large audience because the Left doesn't want our own Limbaugh.

No. I thought Malloy was referring to SEALS "defending themselves" when GW "reached for a gun"

the FBI has no solid evidence linking Bin Laden to the attacks of 9/11
look it up.
On the other hand, there is plenty of evidence proving that 9/11 was an inside job, and that Bush/Cheney knew it was going to happen. two planes can't destroy three buildings. Do the Math, people. look at the science. It was a miracle (from allah?) or an inside job. No other option exists
Bush and Cheney deserve to be held accountable for their war crimes, and the deception they perpetrated on the American people;treason. they should have given OBL a trial, but oops, that would have been old school;American