Honda Spokesman -- I Got Screwed At Honda Dealer!!

Honda Spokesman -- I Got Screwed At Honda Dealer!!

A man claims he got royally screwed at a Honda dealership ... the twist to this story -- he's the guy who pitches Hondas on TV.

Dennis Singletary tells TMZ he went to an L.A. Honda dealership in April to buy a 4-door Honda Civic and wanted the very same deal he pitches on national televsion -- "The Really Big Thing" ... which is 0% down, low finance rates and $190 a month payments.

Dennis qualified because his credit rate was a solid 709. Problem was -- the dealership didn't have the car he wanted. So Dennis trotted over to another dealership which DID have the car ... and that's where he endured a gross miscarriage of car justice.

Dennis claims the dealer wouldn't give him "The Really Big Thing," because according to the dealer his credit score was only 663.

http://www.tmz.com/2011/05/08/honda-really-big-thing-commercial-car-civic-lease-credit-score-check-dennis-singletary/

Who knows?

I *almost* feel sorry for him...

Wherein he will have proof of who is lying about his credit score.

There are three different scores and they CAN change based on the number of pulls.

Furthermore, one dealership may be buying a different scoring model for the same credit bureau. The lender, in this case the manufacturer, will dictate which credit bureau and which modeling issue release is to be used to determine score for their program.

It's not necessarily about lying.

from their own inventory, or from another dealer. They just bump trade a car and sell it to you.
No need to go anywhere or do anything.
Just sign and give your check.
dc

One salesman on one Ford lot implied I was a homosexual because I very forcefully said I wasn't interested in any SUV. Better ramp up the ol'boycott machine.

suitable for a family. I could hear confusion in the buyers voice as the sales guy continued to draw up the contract for the more expensive model. It clearly wasn't the car the buyer had intended to buy.

happy to me. My cousin works in the plant in Ohio and loves his job and the company. And they do not want or need the union.

Do you want to force them to go union even if they don't want too.

anti-union propaganda.

acting like people who vote down unions are somehow dumb.

That's what people who vote against unionizing do. They vote to unilaterally disarm themselves.

I had the purchase price in cash and proposed a slightly unorthodox transaction. I give you the cash and you give me the car. Whadaya Say?

Finding a dealer interested in this proposition was actually surprisingly difficult - since they concluded if one could buy a Honda Accord with cash they could afford something much more expensive which inevitably ended-up with them trying to walk me to the Acura side of the lot... but never fear with financing you can afford a $40,000 Honda Accord with an Acura logo on it.

Ultimately my girlfriends dad found the car at a rural dealership that usually does fleet sales that found my unusually archaic money for merchandise proposal acceptable.

and she refused because she was paying cash. They came up with all sorts of reasons but she still refused and almost walked. I think I would have walked!

Cash isn't good any more?

The dealer found it impossible to resist!

We also used the "sell us this car, or we walk" tactic, and that didn't hurt either...

:D

... buying my Honda recently for cash. I told them what I wanted and they drove it over for me to test drive. They proposed a ridiculous price and I told them no way, I would pay X and they could take it or leave it.

They took it.

The profit centers in a new car dealership are Service, Parts, Used Cars (sometimes, depending on how good the dealer's auction buyer is) and Financing & Insurance. The new car department is only there so the F&I department has something to loan you money on.

So yeah, "you give me a car for free," which is essentially what a cash sale is, IS an unorthodox thing.

absolutely REFUSED. "I want to sell you a new car". As I walked away, I thought for sure he was going to run after me and allow me to buy a used car. Nope! Had to get it somewhere else.

... unprecedented situation out there right now. There is actually an ACUTE SHORTAGE of used cars! I'm not sure I understand exactly why that is but you can google it - and along with the shortage is the corresponding increase in prices.

Personally, if I wanted to buy a used car I would use craigslist and buy it from an individual.

whether it be new or used. Therefore not as many trade-ins. With as many people who are unemployed, I'm sure they are hanging on to the cars that they have.
Just a thought.

Do this if you want to have some fun with them. See if they'll write you a straight up loan with no prepayment penalty and no fees or added charges. If that's possible, let them do the loan and let them charge whatever ridiculous interest rate they want to and let it be for the longest period of time. Let them get all excited about how much they're going to be soaking you for over the life of this loan. Then immediately pay it off so they get squat.

who say the same thing. They either want to sell you a better car with financing (for which they take a cut, of course) or they'd rather you go elsewhere.

"The dealers are all independent businessmen, we have no control over them" (corporate doublespeak)

(but if they dip into holdback to make a sale at low margins, we curtail their allocations so that they don't put other dealers at a disadvantage).


Gee, dishonest non-GM dealers, what a surprise.

The two biggest crooks in my town are the Cadillac dealer and the Buick dealer.

The Chevrolet dealer is a different story: he is an upright businessman.

simple. I guess when a comment is made about the japanese cars, the defenders have to pop up t make sure that GM is considered no better....how sad.

I think there's some sort of unwritten rule that you have to be a crook before they'll let you sell cars. They're all fucking evil. I think you know the joke: a female senior citizen told her male senior citizen friend she was in the market for a car. Male senior citizen friend told her, "always buy new cars. You always get screwed when you buy a used car." Female senior citizen immediately jumps up and starts to leave.

"Where are you going?"

"To buy a used car."

However bad the GM dealers in this town are, the Honda dealer, who is a teabagger and a state legislator, is infinitely worse.

ta ta

car dealerships all manipulate your credit scores to their benefit. My husband's is 750--several car dealerships told him it was 650 to 675.

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I decided not to and instead go the fuel-efficient route (looking to buy a Ford Fusion Hybrid instead), but I had a luxury car dealer tell me I had *exceptional* credit. That was pretty cool, I know it doesn't work for everybody but I do get that they manipulate that shit in order to screw you out of a good deal. I had that happen when I bought my Nissan, they tried to screw me on my trade-in by offering me like a third of what the actual KBB value was. The thing is - always be prepared to walk out on the deal, they will get try anything to get you a better deal if they're desperate.

Then suddenly they were offering $ for the car. While the sales guy was occupied talking loudly to his boss in the next room (play put on my my benefit) I walked out to my old car a nd he came running out' WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" in a not very friendly voice.

I HATE THE CAR BUYING PROCESS. HATE IT.

Although in the process of selecting a dealer to get my Fusion Hybrid from, I found an excellent Ford dealer in my area that's been very easy to work with, I will be ordering my car from them when I'm ready to.

In NJ you have THREE WHOLE DAYS to return the car if you are unhappy with the deal or contract. It's the law. Dealers will NEVER tell you that. And with GM, if the car is a certified used car. bring it back, take your old car, get your deposit back, and drive away, no questions asked, unless like most dealers, they sold your trade to a wholesaler or customer and they are now fucked.

:silly:

There are 3 credit scores. Its quite possible that one is higher than the other, and a difference of 50 points is quite possible. Out of the 3 companies that issue credit scores, there are different scoring models. One model is called auto enhanced. If you have a great history with car loans, your auto enhanced score is higher than your normal score. Have a bad auto loan history and its worse.

So, was a dealer trying to screw him and make more money. Its certainly possible. Or did one dealer pull equifax, and another dealer pull experian? That is also possible, and if so, I can see why he wouldn't get the same offer in 2 places. I would liked to see him do more research before he starting bitching. I don't know who to blame in the story, so at this point, I don't really care.

I have a friend I constantly have to argue with about his credit scores. He's always bitching the scores he buys from Suzie Orman are 50 points lower than the scores I pull. From what I gathered from a news article, the "free credit scores" and such are usually outdated models sold cheap.

I was once burned on a car deal because one of my big lenders switched Trans-Union scoring models and I didn't get the memo. My TU score for the borrower was 20 points lower than the bank's TU score.

to buy things like cars instead of finance them.

Silly me.

So "I got screwed by the car dealer" is roughly synonymous to "I bought a car from a car dealer".

And this is quite the stretch too: So I went with my mom to test drive a Buick SUV. This guy says there's only one on the lot but they did have a couple of them in an off-site storage area about a mile from there that we could test drive. So he takes us on the jam-packed freeway when the place was reachable by surface streets (strike one). We get to the lot, he doesn't have the combination for the lock to get us into the storage unit, so we're sitting there for at least half an hour waiting for him to call the dealer back to get the combination. He finally does and we get there, there's no cars like even remotely resembling what we wanted (strike two). Now we get back in the car and drive back to the dealership, on the way back he explains to us "Oh yeah, I hate cars, I'm just doing this for the money.". To a customer! I give him a point for honesty, but you should never ever tell a customer that. Oh and we didn't even get to test drive the car, which we had been in the entire time (strike three).

but when I go in I establish a discounted price for the new car and then start negotiating about my trade in. One time this went really well (the dealership had ran an add indicating so much for a trade in irrespective of condition). Also with rebates and their advertised cash off a new vehicle, I used it to manipulate to what I hoped would be the best price. They did weasel a little bit on the trade in saying that it should apply to used cars, but I still got a whole lot more than market value for it.

At the end of the transaction when they stick the finance forms in front of me, I whip out the check book and write a check for the car. I also review every line of the sales contract.

I hate buying cars, and I am looking forward to the day in which I am no longer working. I plan to give up my car at that point. I don't have to be anyplace in particular at that point.

90 percent of them (at least where I live) are hardcore Chamber of Commerce teabag loons...

Remember in the late 90s when automakers were going to revolutionize e-commerce where you could order and buy your car online, and the dealer JUST served as a delivery/service point? I always wonder how different things would be if the NADA hadn't killed it...

A better way to buy is to get your own finance (or pay cash), find the car with the best reviews that has two or model model years under it's belt, get a carfax and get one with low miles instead of new

And they really are naDA, zeros. Another lobbying arm of the Right.