The "too big for strollers blog". Hilarious

Just a funny blog. Don't get upset, those of you who push kids in strollers until they are 18.

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Judgmental people love to roll their eyes at parents who cart 8-year-olds around in umbrella strollers. They scoff at these kids whose knees are bent up or whose feet are dragging while being chauffeured around in $800 Bugaboos. They accuse the parents of coddling and overindulging their "lazy" children "who should be walking."

Laura Miller, a childless New Yorker, was so struck by the number of big kids she noticed riding in strollers around Manhattan that she started the blog Too Big for Stroller, featuring comical images of kids who look as if they don't belong in a stroller. Miller takes some of the pictures (usually without the parents' permission) but mainly readers send in images. To respect a family's privacy, Miller obscures a child's face with the words "walk." Miller also tries to avoid featuring photographs of children who clearly have a disability.



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"I don't the humor"

Should that be "I don't get the humor" or "I don't mind the humor"? ;)

;)

maybe she'll take your picture down :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

this may go somewhat ignored or turn absolutely EPIC!!!

I have :popcorn: either way.

wagon? Just internet people being mean again.

:shrug:

It's like, "Oh, I have kids so I now have the right to take up the entire aisle and not even bother to try to be considerate to anyone else on the bus/train".

Offhand, I would think that a large stroller is a large stroller, whether it has a newborn or a three year old in it.

But I guess I am wrong. So, please explain how the age of the kid affects the size of the stroller?

What would happen if some poor kid got in one and it fell apart, who would(could) they blame?

ago 50 lbs was the best you could do, and many models said 35-40, IIRC. That's for the kid plus anything you put in/on the stroller.

I think it's like 63' an hour

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your feet can touch the ground.

You might be too big for a stroller if you can spell stroller.

You might be too big for a stroller if you can legally smoke while riding in one.

and so on.

They prefer palanquins.

'Indigo' children are so last decade.

I know that.

...but it's still funny as hell.

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i'll excuse just about anything for humor. very much appreciate the French saying, "if you have nothing good to say, at least say it well!"

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:spray:

my guess is husbandless, too. What sort of powers does she have to diagnose from a distance which of other people's children have a disability? And even as to those who don't have a disability - how in God's green earth is it any of her business?

Maybe the kids are tired from walking around the Metropolitan Museum of Art all day. Maybe they have blisters on their toes. Maybe they just want a ride for the fun of it. Why should it be any concern of hers, much less a concern so intense that she has taken the trouble to set up a website to mock the children?

She is a real piece of work, if you ask me.

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it looks to me like big sis took a rest in little bro's ride for a few minutes. If I were tired and there was a convenient seat nearby, I'd do the same.

Honestly, who cares?

n/t

Deeply. :rofl:

The Internet is serious stuff.

conjure up a serious demeanor when engaging in internet activities from now on.






Nah, too much trouble.

Should I roll around in a stroller?

:eyes:

My friend's sister (27-28 years old) got blisters on her foot the first day out there. She rented a wheelchair for the rest of the week. Srsly. The rest of the family was stunned that she would do that. And then she wanted to take the handicapped shortcut to all the rides, the family refused to do it.

People here are saying we should "mind our own business," but how lazy are we getting allowing 8 to 10 year olds ride around in strollers? It's sad and pathetic.

I would not hold it against you. Nor would I set up a website to mock you.

Kids are becoming too goddamn lazy. They need to walk instead of rolling around something infants are supposed to be in.

The reason infants roll around in strollers? Because they can't walk.

There is no way she could know the circumstances behind each photo. Though I could have never gotten my kids into a stroller at that age, there were many times when keeping track of them was very challenging or other times when their little legs couldn't keep up with the grownups.

Sounds like this woman needs to find something more worthwhile to occupy her time.

I pushed my daughter in a stroller around Disneyland after she was of walking age, because her little legs couldn't keep up with the grownups. She still did plenty of walking and standing in line. Kids get tired faster than grownups - something a "childless New Yorker" might not understand.

All of toobig's "smug" supporters should read this article on TodayMOMS ›

"In the meantime, I’ll be over here skimming over hate mails and finding the hypocrisy in being called a miserable, lonely, friendless, immature, ignorant asshole who needn’t worry about using a stroller someday cause I’m undeserving of someone who loves me enough to impregnate me, by people who find deem me mean and judgmental. The good news is, I’m choosing not to take it personally. coughtryitcough. And instead of defending my integrity, intelligence, general understanding of stroller usage, sarcasm, sense of humor, and capacity for human compassion, I’ll simply state my opinion that if literal explanations were applied to every little questionable thing, then nothing in this world would have room to be funny. Sorry Jerry Seinfeld, airline peanut packages are small because planes have limited storage space."


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who cries the whole way, would HAPPILY put that kid in a stroller, with a snack. Easier to push the stroller and sing, chit-chat on the way instead of HUSH, come on, hurry up, leave that alone, oh please it's just a little farther....

Since everyone has to have the uber-tech X-Stroller-9000 which is 30 yards wide.

then hahaha. It read to me that the joke was letting non-babies/non-toddlers ride. I've got a 4-year old that fools everyone, so big and tall even when he was 2 the neighbors first thought he was 5. People are too judgemental.

My beef is stroller people taking up the entire aisle of public transit and not even pretending to be considerate to others about our need to ride too.

is the stroller answer to the land yachts that are always trying to run me off the road in my normal car. It's like everything has to be big, big, big these days. Plus, there's defintiely the attitude that "I'm a parent with children, I should have the right-of-way in all cases."

Your problem is with inconsiderate use of large strollers.

I do not understand the connection between your problem and the subject of this thread, since a stroller is the same size whether it is carrying an infant or a two year old.

2 of those came into my place of work today, I don't know how they get them through the aisles of the grocery stores.

Avoiding them seems counterproductive to the development of the kid's ability to cope with the world. It also seems unbelievably lazy.

If you get HBO, you can maybe still catch Martin Scorsese's documentary about her: "Public Speaking." She talks about this very thing!

Also...another thing that I really liked (that I never thought too much about it until she brought it up...) in which she said regarding gays in the military and getting married.....how these are really the two most oppressive institutions ever....so why would you try to get into them? (para-phrasing....of course....but you get the general idea!)

Definitely a gal after my own heart and who makes no qualms about speaking her truth - however unpopular and (currently) misunderstood!

Sad though (IMO) how she seems so lonely in her convictions. I give her so much credit for 'going against the grain' of society and just speaking her truth!

She is waaaaaay, waaaaaay ahead of her time to me....and like all great artists - probably won't be appreciated for some time to come.

See....most folks can't handle the truth. Fran just puts it all out there. Unabashedly. No excuses. A rare breed she is. truly. I wish her peace and kodos to Scorsese for making this telling documentary!

about marriage and military a few years ago. He said something about along the lines of one of the benefits of being born gay is that you don't have to marry or join the military. He said he supported the fight but that he personally saw that as a bonus.

He also made comments about how gay men were the "new Catholics", with their dozen adopted children.

Now that's a name I haven't heard in years. I remember her being on Merv Griffin and other talk shows (yes, back in the Dark Ages) and being so captivated by her intelligence and wit. Nobody and I mean NOBODY could have kept up with her. I always wanted her to debate someone like William F. Buckley. She would have blown him away. And she was young then. I can't even imagine what intellectual evolution has done for her. Thanks for the reminder.

would have been great! She would have run circles around him!!! Have you seen the documentary? One of the last things she says is that she is at the point in her life now in "having the last laugh" and it feels great! (para-phrasing)

Ever read her books? I'm going to order one. She also talks about books by Dorothy Parker and James Thurber which I want to check out as well. (Thurber is supposed to be really funny and I can use a laugh or two!)

I remember the Merv Griffin show too (back in the day) and Mike Douglas & Dick Cavett. (Cavett used to have more of the "controversial" guests of the day like John Lennon & Yoko Ono).

...Funny how back then lots of folks smoked and drank on these shows!

...reminds me of a funny Seinfeld episode where Kramer re-decorated his apartment to simulate a 1960's-type talk show set :-)

FYI: Here's a debate between Buckley & Noam Chomsky from 1969:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYlMEVTa-PI

"Miller also tries to avoid featuring photographs of children who clearly have a disability. "

Well, isn't that just precious of him. He "tries to avoid...children who clearly have a disability". He doesn't avoid children with disabilities but "tries to avoid" those who are obvious.

Unrecing for being judgmental.

Presumably is a her, not a him.

I wonder what skeletons she has in her closet.

It's miserable for my husband to go most places that require a lot walking. There's so much we enjoyed doing together that is pretty much out of the question now.

He's still fairly active, but both his back and hips can flare up with no warning at all.

or a rollator (a walker with four wheels and a bench seat so your husband could set the brakes and rest whenever he liked).

These are stroller people on steroids.

on how big an aisle clogging contraption you can stick your spawn into. Most of the worst would likely survive an F-5 tornado, maybe even a nuclear blast.

Umbrella strollers don't bother me and I don't care how big the kid in it is. At least I can get past it. And I'm not the one pushing it.

The moms will ask you why you hate your kid.

I'm not saying people with strollers should be actively banned from public transit. I'm saying they should think about what they're doing first.

Seriously? No shit? You've seen this actually happen?

Wow. I'm just.. trying to envision it. You're, what, on the bus.. and some lady said to you, or someone else- "That's last year's model of stroller... WHY DO YOU HATE YOUR KID?"


Holy shit. I can't believe that really happened to you, or someone you know! Wow. I just don't know what to say. What an amazing human interaction. I've just never seen anyone do anything like that, and believe you me, I've been around.

So just so we're clear-- you actually witnessed a mom asking someone with "last year's model of stroller", and I quote, "why do you hate your kid?"

In front of said kid, obviously, too.

That's just nuts.


Hmmmmm. Maybe it's an East Coast thing. I can't imagine anything even close to that happening here.

be on a par with haute couture? But yes, it happens and I've seen it. My sister in law, who lives in Connecticut was just saying the other day how she thought they had one of the nicest, high end strollers until one of her soccer mom "friends" made the comment that they had the latest model and how much it cost. Some of them are almost as expensive as cars. And when you wheel them down the street in the city - two at a time so the moms can chat with each other - you have to find a way around them because there is no way they are inconveniencing themselves for you.

Also, because real estate here is so expensive that lanes in supermarkets or most other kinds of stores are large enough for two anorexic people to pass each other if they turn to the side. God forbid if you are behind a mega-stroller - you aren't going anywhere, so you might as well browse. It's the arrogance of the parents that is so annoying. There is no consideration for others who are trying to go about and do their business as well.

but it's not as dense. I don't know, though, there's definitely an everybody-in-everybody else's face vibe I get on the East Coast that bugs the crap out of me. It's everyone, though, not just parents. Odd that people can be so deeply involved in the business of judging strangers and simultaenously oblivious to what is going on around them.

I have to say, though, the worst people I encounter have to be the folks just sort of zoning out in trader joe's. They're usually not the people with kids; they look like they're downloading an extraterrestrial transmission straight into their fillings, and hell yeah they're in the way.

You think us "moms" really spend a lot of time critiquing one another's strollers? Really? Does your contempt apply to "moms" specifically, or do you have a problem with dads too?

And I'm terribly sorry that you've been so inconvenienced by strollers on "public transit." Perhaps you'd prefer the moms to stick with oversized SUVs. Because YOUR convenience is so much more important than that of the other 6 billion people in the world.

Grow up.

You think us "moms" really spend a lot of time critiquing one another's strollers?

Obviously some do.

Does your contempt apply to "moms" specifically, or do you have a problem with dads too?

If I hear of dads doing it I'll be annoyed at them, too.

And I'm terribly sorry that you've been so inconvenienced by strollers on "public transit."

Apology accepted.

Perhaps you'd prefer the moms to stick with oversized SUVs.

No, but papooses and hips come to mind in situations you know are going to be crowded.

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We do judge. Since we have added #2 we are going to be getting the "double bob" - here it is:



Gaze upon me and despair.

The kind you can mount a grenade launcher on.

Rolls better than any others.

:D

I didn't really notice kids until our son was born in 2005. I'm now a stay at home dad for him and my daughter, who is two and a half. I spend a lot of time at parks and on playdates and various places where folks bring their kids. What I've noticed in the six years I've been a parent has been that more and more kids are strapped into something for more and more of their lives. They are strapped into a highchair, strapped into some bouncy chair, strapped into a carseat/infant carrier, and then strapped into a stroller. Fine. But then, when their kids start walking, a curious thing happens: some parents don't ditch the stroller. They still go around with their two year old as if they were an infant. Then the kids turn three and four, and they're still in the stroller.

There's nothing wrong with these kids. It's the parents. It's driven, I think, by two things:

Laziness
It's not altogether easy to keep track of your kids as you walk around. They have to be taught not to dart into traffic, eat bird poop and go in the van with the nice man with the puppy. But you know what? If you put the effort in early, the kids learn. I got rid of the stroller as soon as my kids could walk, and it's been a success. Neither of them has been abducted or hit by a car. It would probably be easier to just strap them in: you have to keep track of them. It's called parenting. Parents today obsess about these developmental milestones--how is it that we fail to notice that our kids are capable of walking? If they can walk, they ought to walk. I might add that many folks I know who keep their kids indoors at all times and stroller-bound at all other times report that their kids are constantly waking up at night. Not my kids: they sleep, well, like babies. Kids need to get their energy out.

Consumerism
I've seen moms roll up at the park, unpack their elaborate $300 stroller, put their kid in it, and push their stroller less than 100 yards to the playground, where they unload the kids, who immediately run around as if they had just escaped from some sort of prison. Why? The stroller is a status symbol. What's the use of having a top-notch stroller if it stays in the back of the Honda Odyssey? Besides, the stroller is where they keep all their other shit: a diaper bag with a week's worth of diapers, a tub of wipes, half a pantry full of food, and a case of bottled water, because you wouldn't want your kid to use the public water fountain at the park. God forbid you don't have a week's worth of supplies at a two-hour playdate. Oddly, the one thing these moms ever seem to bring is something like a ball for their kids to , you know, play with at the playground.

I also ditched the stroller, except when we have to walk very long distances with the two-year-old. As for moms overpacking the diaper bag, I think that is due to anxiety. I used to do the same. Not with a $300 stroller in tow, but I did overpack the diaper bag often.

People, including me, are judgmental about anything touching on parenting. Folks tend, I think, to see others' choices as somehow invalidating their own. Breastfeeding, formula, organic food, safety equipment, natural childbirth, etc. My motto as a parent has been that different people make different choices, and that's OK.

I'm certainly not interested enough in this to design a blog about it, but I was essentially responding to a number of people who ask the question "Why does anyone care?" We have come to a place where we have made a lot of progress on parenting: it's less acceptable to spank, folks use attachment parenting, etc. This is an area, though, where I think we have gone backward. It's not the way we were meant to be, but it's part of who we are becoming. We spend more time looking at some electronic screen, essentially passive activity, and the first lady has singled out childhood obesity as an issue. Why does it bother her? Because we all have a stake in the next generation, even folks who are not raising them. The slings and various devices to strap an infant to a parent are all great, and the stroller has its place,, but when a child gets to the point where they need to walk, let them free. If we move to a model of parenting wherein kids are strapped in when very young, to plugged in when a little older, to being medicated to control their behavior because they have never had the opportunity to internalize self-restraint, that's an issue.

Various folks were saying upthread that this is something they only see in certain circumstances. I was pointing out that, at least where I am, it's something that happens all the time, and I think it's bad. For the most part, parents make different choices and it's OK, but there are a few things that I am willing to judge. This is one, letting infants watch television is another.

development as adults and complete people by several years as well. If you hold your kids back for your convenience, laziness to actually parent/push them, they may submit to you for a longer period of time stunting their individualism and own responsibility.

My wife and I seriously discussed this after visiting the National ZOo last summer. We must have pictures of a dozen school-aged children in strollers at the panda exhibit, all captured within 30 minutes of one another. The only reason we didn't start a blog was that we thought it would be creepy to publish pictures of other people' kids, even with their faces blurred out.

And that's why you're a better person than this stupid blogger. Seriously, even if you see a kid that you think is way too old for a stroller, DON'T POST A PIC OF AN ANONYMOUS CHILD ONLINE ON A PUBLIC BLOG. JESUS.

:banghead: This lady is an idiot and a tool.

Sorry about that.

When the size of children in strollers becomes one of my top concerns, somebody please just shoot me at the one moment in my life when I had nothing else to worry about.

It's not like there are any children with no loving parents and in need in New York City.

There are so few social problems involving children in New York, that this one commands her attention.

Why aren't they thinking "these are for little kids. I'm a big girl/boy".

Something this woman obviously doesn't get to say often enough.

Like, "Wow. I'm supposed to be a full-grown adult, with an actual life.. why am I spending all this time second-guessing the way other people transport their own kids around an urban area? Shouldn't I grow the fuck up, already?"

"Laura Miller, a childless New Yorker" needs to find a fucking hobby.

because no one there ever drives a car.

Honestly, *I* wouldn't want to walk 15 city blocks with a 7 year old, either. Sticking the kid in a stroller probably makes sense for everyone. (Or maybe everyone except bored bloggers with nothing better to do than second-guess other peoples' lives.) Plus, you can put shit in the bottom of the stroller. FAR fucking easier to push a stroller with an oversized kid and 2 grocery bags in it than to try to hold the kids hand on busy streets and sidewalks as the kid drags his or her feet and generally dawdles, plus while you're trying to ALSO carry the 2 grocery bags.

But, then, since "Laura Miller, a childless New Yorker" (who must not have got the memo about calling herself "ChildFREE") doesn't have kids, she probably hasn't thought that part through.

It seems, to me, a bit judgmental; and that's not even including the first thought which came to my mind, as someone with a teenaged relative who has CP; namely, I wonder how many of those kids she's snarking off on might actually be, you know, handicapped in some way? :shrug:

Edit: Oh, apparently she tries to avoid posting pictures of kids who are obviously handicapped. Isn't that sweet?

Furthermore, I identify as childfree, NOT "childless", because I'm not missing a damn thing.

Thanks for reminding me once again how little tolerance the parents on this site have for those of us who chose a different path.

Don't even try to pretend that the SUV-sized strollers in vogue nowadays aren't a hazard to everyone else on the sidewalk, especially in New York City.

And the size of those strollers has nothing to do with the age of the children in them.

Perhaps you might review the OP - her blog is not about large strollers.

I agree with you that large strollers are ridiculous, but that is not her implicit complaint. Over-sized strollers do not shrink to fit infants. They remain large quite independent of the child's age.

Who the hell would WANT to push a kid who could walk safely alone? Like maybe there's another issue? HELLO???

I have an autistic kid that as a small child had to be in a stroller in busy streets to keep her from darting into traffic if she was startled . When we got to the park she could run free safely. Now she can walk safely in traffic. But I was given the "she should be walking" comments by clueless passers-by when she was little a couple of times and thought they were capital A ASSHOLES.

Not all disabilities are visible. Please don't judge if you don't know the situation.

but imagine all the comments that would get you!

My sister had wild (bratty) children who ran away from her, when out in public. So she got little harnesses and strapped leashes to her 2 boys. She got so many dirty looks and comments, she didn't use the leashes for very long.

4-yr old loves it, does the job, and even when people look twice they understand when they see my wild redhead straining/twisting/bouncing/pulling ME everywhere.

The three they give just look like kids sitting on things to me.

I don't have kids and I'm rarely around them, so perhaps I'm missing some point of major tension in our society, but I'm having trouble seeing why anyone would notice or care what another person's kid does in this regard... :shrug:

People want to sand off all the rough edges in the world because their precious kid might hurt himself. Hide everything that's rated G because their priceless spawn might see it. A lot of people dawdle on children and I think a lot of them never actually grow up as a result.

Oh, the possibilities!

I know a woman who did this. The reason was that she used the stroller to lug around all her *stuff*. The child as a passenger was actually secondary. In fact, the last year I saw her doing this, the child spent more time walking than riding.

ignoring thier "pampered" stroller children at best, or treating them like they'd like to steer the stroller out into oncoming traffic. Maybe it's a stressed out city thing, but my impression is that (and I live one of the most child-friendly neighborhoods in New York) is that the parent really doesn't want to put the effort into parenting and keeps the kid in the stroller to have more control over the kid.

This is of course not in every case, but I can't tell you how many parents I see here who seem to have had children as a fashion accessory as well, and now they're bored with it.

OIn a big city?

With a whole bunch of grocery bags?

Give it a try and then get back to me.

can't afford a nannie, you can't afford to live there.

I'm sorry, it still doesn't make sense.

baby's clothing and strollers sometimes. Trust me, a lot of them live in my building. Also, nannies get time off too.

The eagerness with which adults attach to children's films and stories is yet another symptom of the infantilization of our entire society. We're turning into fucking Disneyworld with a side of Harry goddamned Potter.

knows why the kids are in a stroller. They could be sick or whatever. It just doesn't seem funny to me. And I wanted to find it funny, I really did!

done more than rolled her eyes if she had seen me when I was working with autistic teenagers! I got weird looks all the time as I
held the hand of an 18 and 19 year old boy as we crossed a busy street. They looked perfectly normal in every respect, but an
oncoming car meant nothing to them. I also escorted them in the grocery store when we took them shopping once a week. Some shoppers
could hardly control themselves as they stared. Thank goodness the workers in the store knew the score and were so helpful.
Peoople have no idea what may or may not be a problem with a child or teenager. I would never think about casting doubt on the
adult supervising them.

In the left pic, the stroller obviously isn't going anywhere. Looks like a little urban camping spot with the stuff lying around nearby. Third pic, the stroller isn't moving either. Chair.

that as long as she doesn't feature any children with disabilities, then HA HA HA HA.

I see kids too old for strollers all the time in NYC.

She should mind her own business IMO, but whatever. I hate blogs like that. Maybe some of the kids have developmental issues..how does she know if they don't? Many disabilities are not easily seen by a casual observer.

That being said, the only time I still use a stroller for my 2 year old is when we have to walk long distances. I never put my four-year-old in one, but I don't judge others who do.

impairment? Just as with the self appointed "Handicapped Parking Police" some physical challenges are not immediately apparent to the average lay person. This woman needs to mind her own business.

I find it hard to laugh at this blog.

who have nothing better to do than monitor how other people run their lives.

I wore the wrong shoes on a tour and had my SO push me around in a wheelchair. When the tour was over I tried to run out quickly so nobody saw/judged.

And have the right to do so. I've met many five-year-olds who were monsters in training, already negotiating with their parents and mostly winning. I have a few pet peeves when it comes to raising children, but this isn't one of them... though I understand how people think this is odd.

If those kids were still sucking on a bottle or wearing a diaper, then I'd chime in! LOL!

such big kids in strollers but it's their business. As for me, as soon as my girls were walking I didn't use the strollers anymore. It's much better for their brain development to walk instead of ride.

no more diaper bags, strollers, changes of clothes, etc. Once our boys were done with all that stuff, it made traveling/visiting so much easier. We did keep a box in the trunk of the car with some extra jeans & shirts...just in case..

One thing I find so odd with modern strollers is the "drink-station" cup holders/food trays that some have. Our old trusty strollers were purely an escape from carrying the kid on my hip, and not a baby-SUV.. These new strollers are HUGE:)

Because I had no qualms about pushing my 5 y.o. around Disney World last year. He hopped in and out of it at will whenever he got tired. If anything I was jealous I didn't have a similar option.

Some kids live in walking cities where its just too much for their little bodies to keep up with parents. I'm a suburban dad and my 5 year old kid sleeps in the car seat often. Its really no different.


Some kids have disabilities that are not easy to identify.

... that this is actually a positive sign. These parents are walking longer distances than their children can easily walk instead of just driving everywhere.

Five or six year old children really can't manage walking as far as their parents sometimes.

And with good reason:

And yes I got looks/comments having her in a stroller at age 5. Because she looks "normal." She looks beautiful matter of fact.

People need to learn about MANY KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS that make these things not only appropriate but NECESSARY. MANY autistic children need a lot of therapy to keep from running into people or bumping them HARD when they are in crowds. This is not an aggressive behavior, they simply have a hard time sensing where their body ends and where others are. The stroller gives them boundries until they are in a more open space and the motion is soothing to them.

OF COURSE ANYBODY WOULD RATHER HAVE THE KID WALK THAN BE IN A STROLLER! It's easier! Doesn't that make you think there might be a physical or developmental reason for the stroller?

My message to people who get off on judging kids on developmental maturity without knowing them, is get an effin' life.

The people who actually do have kids are way too busy to give a shit about other peoples' business.

Some kids, the development OUTSIDE does not match the development INSIDE. They may be in therapy to develop a sense of spatial awareness for example like mine was at age 4 or 5. Kids like this will WALK INTO PEOPLE AND TRAMPLE OTHER KIDS until they have a lot of therapy. They also may have problems holding hands as many find it too invasive. They also might have very little awareness about things like traffic, curbs, etc., and, they can have coordination problems in general that make it difficult to walk in certain environments. Hell they could have CP and weak muscles, you don't know!

My point is....the kid can be physically 5 years old and developmentally much younger. It's certainly nothing to mock laugh at without knowing the reason why.

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Never made them walk a marathon, and of course I carried them if necessary, but they walked. Whining didn't get them a break just because. I'm not raising little princesses. I'm raising self reliant smart educated women.

;)

I'm pushing them just as hard in school and also giving them love and hugs and kisses and encouragement. I just won't do it for you, and it's because I love them.