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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 03:27 AM
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TOON: Derf on telling Bradley Manning the good news about bin Laden

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 03:32 AM
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1. K&R
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:18 AM
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2. Wow
That's not "misleading" now, is it? Unrec for an out and out lie.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 12:00 PM
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4. the hood, hanging, and bucket are exaggerations
but it's an editorial cartoon.

They should give you guys some talking points to deal with satire and humor because your current tack is not working.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 02:40 PM
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7. Do you know what a political cartoon is?
To say that this is an out and out lie is a joke. Is the Gadsden Flag a lie because snakes don't really look like that? Rec to counter your unrec.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:08 PM
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11. No need to patronize me
The beauty of a political cartoon is that it "tells a story," and has some basis in fact, even if it's exagerated. This was just a lie, and not a very good cartoon any way you look at it.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 06:39 AM
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12. So you don't think that Bradley Manning is being mistreated?
That's what you're saying there. If that's what you think, you're delusional. The facts do not agree with you.
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:36 PM
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13. No need to call names
maybe you're just misinformed

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/04/bradley-manning-jail-conditions-improve

Anyway, the argument wasn't about Bradley, it was that the cartoon is a lie, which it is.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:46 PM
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14. I'm not calling names, simply stating a fact.
And once again, you have no idea what a political cartoon is if you think that's a lie. And why is it that you'd provide this link? The fact that his conditions improved greatly when human rights groups stepped in means that he wasn't treated inhumanely to begin with? That's some incredibly faulty logic you're using there.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:52 PM
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15. And FYI, this cartoon is about Bradley Manning.
So for you to say that this argument isn't about Bradley is fairly idiotic. If this cartoon is a lie, then every political cartoon in the history of the world has been a lie.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 05:55 AM
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3. Must be easier to just straight up lie...
... than make a point. Good plan. :eyes:
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 02:07 PM
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5. It's not a lie because it's not intended to be taken literally.
It's like cartoons that showed Cheney, with his makeup slipping, revealing the robot face underneath, or Boehner throwing a little child into the ocean from a boat labeled "U.S.A."

Check out today's toon roundup. In , the fifth one down implies that Cheney and Rumsfeld are reptiles. They're not. They're mammals. The cartoon is a lie. Go unrec it.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 02:49 PM
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8. local authoritarian's responses clearly showing their black and white mentality
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 03:17 PM
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9. they're just doing their jobs. it beats working the fry station at McDonald's
Though they'd have about the same impact on political discourse there as with their methods here.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-11 03:23 PM
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10. It also proves that whole "due process" concept is overrated
We can lock up, torture and even kill folks as long as "everybody" says they did something really, really bad. Or even if it's just the right "somebody" who says that. And you know what else? There will be a disturbing number of people waving their flags for all they're worth in support of that.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-11 12:52 PM
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16. zomg teh ropez arnt that color!!!!
I love all these assertions that a cartoon isn't literally true-- seriously. Thanks guys. What would we do without you?

While we're on the subject of how the government deals with leakers and inconvenient people, something crossed my mind today. Considering the recent take-down of Osama bin Laden, theoretically speaking, what's to keep the government from simply sending in a kill team to get rid of Julian Assange?
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