BREAKING : Cuban Special Forces KILLED Luis Posada Carriles in South Florida today

A Cuban government spokesman offered to reporters "We have killed the 'Bin Laden' of the Western Hemisphere today and all Cubans can sleep a bit easier tonight knowing this man has been brought to justice."

The operation by an elite unit of the Cuban military slipped ashore late Monday night and raided Posada's beachfront compound. Also killed in the raid were one of Posada's sons, an aide and a young woman. The Cuban team was also able to confiscate several computers and other documents during the forty minute raid. There were no injuries to the Cuban soldiers during the raid.

The Cuban government has long accused Posada of the 1976 bombing of an airliner that killed 73 people and of bombings in Cuba as late as 1997 which killed a Canadian tourist. The attack on the airliner was the largest loss of life in a terrorist attack on an airliner up until the events of 9/11 in the United States.

The Cuban government said the killing was legal, justified, proper and "an act of national self-defense."


"Let me make something very clear," retiring Cuban Attorney General Juan Escalona Reguera told reporters on Tuesday, "the operation in which Luis Posada Carriles was killed was lawful, legitimate and appropriate in every way. He was part of an organization that conducted the attacks of Oct. 6th 1976. He admitted his involvement."

Reguera said it's lawful to "target an enemy commander in the field," just as U.S. forces did during World War II when it shot down a plane carrying Japanese Adm. Isoroku Yamamoto.

Carriles was "by my estimation, and the estimation of our Justice Department, a lawful military target, and the operation was conducted consistent with our law with our values," the attorney general said.
"It was a matter of self-defense for our country to kill or capture this man. We feel justified in killing him Florida because the Americans were either unwilling or unable to bring him to justice".

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How would/should America react to this should it happen?

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Seriously, look at the Polonium incident with that prominent civilian Russian spy who was working for the Americans.

But since any Cuban exposition to the US would end with at least a few defections, I doubt they could keep it very secret.

so they COULD defect.

Just sayin'

Can we do something original next time?

And instead, we'll be welcoming discussion, disagreement, et al...!?

when approaching in this manner, the same could be said about both sides. the very way you addressed it was an attack. some people might actually agree with a policy or reason for it, but to dismiss it with "automatic amen choruses for every White House policy" is not conducive to "welcoming discussion, disagreement, et al...!?"

:thumbsup:

:toast:

There's no need to wonder about "your scenario".

http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/cuba-denounced-carriles-acquittal/ —
"Over the years, Cuba and Venezuela have sought Posada’s extradition to face murder charges, but a US immigration judge has denied their request, stating that he would be tortured if sent back."

Funny, that bit about US refusals to extradite for fear of "torture"... wouldn't you say? Maybe the judges were afraid that Posada would be sent to Guantanamo Bay, in Cuba?...

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Kinda sick too.

unrec for a false Breaking

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cbdo2007

If he had came to me for a shelter, I Would have given him up to the americans myself... The bonus of a 25 mill bounty would be nice;)

Diclotican

or lets see, I guess the special forces on the ground should have risked their lives to capture a man who killed 3000 + people and whose group is known for suicide bombs and IEDs. I guess capturing him and the circus trial would have been worth the life of another soldier and taking away the husband or father of yet another american?

I don't get people.

And those that are against sending drones in to go after known terroists... would they rather send in soldiers into other nations to do that too? to capture all those people?

Some, like Alex Bennett today, said that Bin Laden wasn't a threat. That he had no ties to Al Q! Really???? Why was he found due to his use of a courier? why did they pull out hundrends of docs/drivers/cd roms, etc out of that house that have provided vast amounts of info?

Some on the far left give the democratic party a bad name.

OBL was a mass murderer and would have killed more if he could have. He got what he deserved.

Whether he was "still" a threat doesn't make a damned bit of difference, anyway. Manson probably isn't "still" a threat and I wouldn't have a problem with someone putting a bullet in his head, either.

You kill innocent people, you deserve to die. Granted, I would have preferred the extended humiliation of captivity (nothing to do with his "rights", mind you...just pure humiliation), but I'll accept the few minutes of sheer terror that he endured while looking into the eyes of the American that would be delivering a message of solidarity from the survivors of not just 9/11, but all the acts of cowardice this roach performed. (Apologies for the run-on sentence...my train of thought doesn't know punctuation.)

Those who choose to elevate OBL to martyr/hero status might want to think about it though.

the charge of making OBL a hero has become the new 'President Palin'. Any criticism, and here comes the old charge, with a new face lift.



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The reason I am on break. It could become permanent. Funny I just thought I would check in and survey.

Nor do you seem to be very well informed about the War on Terror or the hunt for Bin Laden, or U.S. and Cuba relations for that matter.

And it's not like the Taliban and bin Laden weren't funded by elements of the ISI or anything.

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knowing that, why would they.... never mind

I have decided to just keep saying who gives a shit to all this bullshit about Bin Laden. The fuck is dead. Get over it .

There is a reason so many countries have spy organizations, which all have black ops units. To think that this sort of thing doesn't happen in the US or any other country is just naive. The only reason we heard about OBL is because we were told about it. I have no doubt that if the administration didn't want us, or anyone else for that matter to know, we wouldn't.

of Cuban dollars (snicker!) and our governments reach an agreement regarding the hunting of terrorists on our soil then they're free to send in an elite military squad (snort!) to take out their targets.

BUMMER

so far has in any way addressed the central question posed at the bottom of the OP - How would we react if Cuba carried out such a raid in Florida? Would it be legal? Would we demand the soldiers be handed over to stand trial for murder?

When did so many of you become so obtuse and so unwilling to discuss uncomfortable issues and contemplate uncomfortable questions?

It is mildly depressing.

Cheers!

These people would be very upset if this was to happen.

How dare Cuba do this on American soil.

Some people rather call names and insult people then have a good conversation.

I find this really sad.

I would like to think that these people are not really Democrats.

I have added to my ignore list in the last few days.

I prefer to talk to adults, not child like people.

You have a good post.

It is mildly amusing.

and the US would no cooperate in bringing the man to justice or if it was suspected that the US government was complicit or would tip the terrorist off so that he could escape again to kill more people, no, I wouldn't have a problem with it and would be disgusted with my own government for protecting a monster.

and money to help, we should do nothing if Cuban commandos took the douche out. Next.

Cuban special forces asylum as they are asking.
I believe they are thinking that since they are actually on American soil they should automatically be given the asylum as so many others have. Confusing the issue, though, is that they were involved in the attack on Posada.
If they can argue their case, perhaps they will be allowed to stay.

I would like to see someone who supported our assassination of Bin Ladin try to explain why this hypothetical situation would be any different.

Our military murdered someone we had no right to murder in a country that does not want us there. But god forbid any country ever do the same to us.

They have the talent and they wouldn't have to fly in.

I am surprised they didn't take him out years ago, before he was under house arrest and running around Miami as if he had never done a thing.

Sonoman

Then go and ask if you would be ok if someone aborted Jesus, or Einstein or something like that...

Are we really so myopic in our outlook we cannot, simply downright refuse, to think in anything other then black and white??


Osama bin Laden kill 3,000 people. We killed him. Enough of this.

You cannot use strawman arguments and generalizations when dealing with subjects like this. The whole idea is that this was an EXTRA-ordinary circumstance that we took action on. Stop trying to tie every other story to this one moment. Because it won't fit the same story. It's stupid. It's myopic. It's something conservatives do to win arguments.


Let's rise above this.

If you have an issue with the way we handled it, then discuss it like an adult. Don't ask if we would be happy if this assassination happend, or if this other guy got killed. It seems petty. Just talk about your issues, and hopefully we can have a constructive dialog about it. Instead of pickering over FAKE news stories.

on the killing of OBL. Those are your inventions. My post merely asks the reader to take a moment to contemplate a scenario that would have foreign governments killing people within the United States and justifying it as "self-defense" as we have done with Bin Laden. From a Cuban perspective, Posada is an ADMITTED terrorist that is living in south Florida. They, and the Venezuelans, have tried on several occasions to have him extradited to face justice. The US refuses. Is their right to kill terrorists less than ours? In short, I am glad OBL is dead, but I am not ignorant to the thorny issues his killing raises in international law. Why is that so difficult for folks to discuss? Is it becuase you would have to admit that as a country we put forth the right that we are exceptional and the rest ofthe planet is not.

Cheers!

PS philosophers and political thinkers have put forth imaginary scenarios since time began solely fo rthe purpose of discovery and debate. To scold someone for engaging in that technique says far more about your intellect than mine. Cheers to you and go read Plato!

Osama bin Laden was free and waging war on US.

Cuba unlike Pakistan has no such security agreement to enter US territory to go after people who aren't currently waging war on them.

On the realpolitik side of it the President's top concern isn't Pakistan's sovereignty but the security of the US. Cuba invading us would threaten that.

bitch.

K&R

And the US did nothing to stop him, or actively protected him from all peaceful means of being held accountable for those crimes for over decade, then I would welcome an elite team of Cuban forces taking him out.

It would probably set back relations with Cuba another 50 years, and maybe start a war, but it would be reasonably justified.

we can discuss it.

Until then, it is silly to compare a fantasy scenario to an actual event.