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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:33 AM
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Chris Christie: GOP White Knight or White Elephant?
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Chris Christie: GOP White Knight or White Elephant?

Leslie Savan
May 11, 2011


Desperate Republicans, panicking over the pathetically weak field of presidential hopefuls (a Fox focus group declared the winner of last week’s GOP debate to be Godfather Pizza founder Herb Cain), are still holding out hope that New Jersey governor Chris Christie doesn’t really mean it when he swears he won’t run in 2012. Even heartland conservatives are certain that the tough-talking East Coaster—who to much of the country reads like the offspring of Tony Soprano and Snookie—is their long-awaited Great White Hope.

On May 31, a group of small-government Iowa Republicans will make a pilgrimage to the governor’s mansion in Princeton, NJ, to urge him to close his eyes and think of the party. Headed by businessman Bruce Rastetter, the Iowa delegation played an important role in returning Republican Terry Branstad to the Iowa governor’s office last year, so they may feel they’re on a roll. "There isn't anyone like Chris Christie on the national scene for Republicans," Rastetter told the AP. "And so we believe that he, or someone like him, running for president is very important at this critical time in our country."

But have these people read up on Christie lately? Their fantasy of a wildly popular and invincible Jersey guy has already gone stale. In fact, Christie’s approval ratings have been sliding downhill ever since he took office almost 16 months ago.

The man would even lose a presidential race in his own state: New Jerseyans would vote for President Obama over Christie 52 to 39, according to the latest Quinnipiac University poll (taken last month before the bin Laden killing). Unbeloved at home, Christie’s 47 percent approval/46 percent disapproval rating is down from 52-40 in February. More important, his gender gap is huge--men approve of him 56-38 percent while women disapprove 53-38 percent. And when asked for one word that best describes the governor, by far the term that most often sprung unprompted to Jersey lips was “bully.” ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.thenation.com/blog/160605/chris-christie-gop-white-knight-or-white-elephant



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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:35 AM
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1. Could he win his own state? Yes or no?
Edited on Thu May-12-11 08:36 AM by aquart
There's your answer.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:37 AM
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3. Al Gore lost Tennessee, but still won in 2000
winning your home state doesn't kill a candidate.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:00 PM
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15. And George W. Bush lost Connecticut n/t
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:04 PM
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16. Bush's adopted home state was Texas
which he won handily, and where he was formerly a governor. Gore had lived in TN or Washington DC most of his life before the 2000 election.
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:44 AM
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10. in a presidential he would not
How he won in the first place is because the Democrats chose an unpopular incumbent. Had Corzine been primaried and someone else won, then we would still hold the governor's office.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:37 AM
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2. I don't think Christie is the answer for the GOP
however, I do think a governor will end up being their nominee - Pawlenty, Huckabee, McDonnell from VA, Christie, Daniels, Huntsman, etc. And, just because they have unlimited funding thanks to the radical SCotUS and most of the media on their side, it will be a formidable challenge for Obama to win in 2012.

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:22 AM
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8. Please do not even post the words "McDonnell" and "nominee" together
unless you like hockey, beer, donuts and toques, eh?

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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:59 AM
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14. He who must not be named...
Despite his radical policies, he-who-must-not-be-named is still popular in Virginia, a state Obama won in 2008. Christie has made a national splash with some tough words, but his popularity has tanked.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 08:50 AM
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4. Either way, I'd hate to be the horse he rides into town on.
:evilgrin:
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iamtechus Donating Member (868 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:10 AM
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5. Let's hope and pray that the republicans fall head over heals for Christie!
He's trying to do the same kind of stuff as Walker in Wis., strip collective bargaining rights and bust unions, privatize everything etc. The voters just love that kind of treatment in Wisconsin and I'm sure they'll love it in NJ too.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:15 AM
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6. this has to be said
Americans are visually fickle.

When was the last time they put an obese person in office?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:17 AM
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7. Christie Will Not Be The Nominee
And he has no chance of winning.
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Safetykitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:25 AM
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9. ..."often sprung unprompted to Jersey lips was “bully.” I would think "squishy"
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:49 AM
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11. Christie's a low-class bully blowhard, and therefore . . .
. . . perfect for the GOP presidential nominee!

BTW, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him as a GOP prez candidate. He has little chance of reelection in NJ, so if he wants to stay in politics, he has to do something nationally.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:56 AM
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13. I see him as an East Coast Blagojevich
as yet un-indicted..give him time
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:27 PM
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18. LOL!
Im surprised his corrupt past already hasn't caught up with him.

Then again, he IS a Republican.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 11:49 AM
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12. I think Christie would be the strongest Repuglican nominee.
Obama will beat him, but less easily than any of the other nobodies running.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:08 PM
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17. Pillsbury Dough Boy??? StayPuf Marshmallow Man?
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 12:48 PM
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19. I would say big, fat White Elephant. But meaner and dumber.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 01:07 PM
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20. How about "pasty white asshole"?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-11 01:15 PM
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21. He looks like a cross between a Sumo Wrestler and a psychotic beaver.
:shrug:
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