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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:15 AM Original message |
Can someone explain in plain language what all these meltdowns in Japan mean? |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. I googled for the basics and found this: |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So they're trying to keep it from exploding because it will add radiation |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Regardless it will spew radiation locally for a very long time |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I predict in five years, that the right-wingers will be adding the Japanese |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. That's what the Regressives do... |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I wouldn't mind being proven wrong every now and then. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I know... it sucks to be right sometimes... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. I've also read that Fukushima has ten times more... |
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Uben (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oops! |
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HubertHeaver (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. In layman's terms, it means we are cooked. |
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azul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
10. It means that secrecy is as dead as a doornail |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
11. The fuel melted |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Thank you. |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Not remotely close to accurate. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Care to explain? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Well, first, the radiation is not making oxygen and nitrogen radioactive. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. THANK you. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Good to know you think this is a local problem and doesn't affect us |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. So it's wrong to explain that one group is affected more than another? (nt) |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. I'm bookmarking this... |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Ah, a good answer |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Again, radioactivity does not work that way. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Three of the nukes are spewing white smoke as of this morning nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:25 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Link? (nt) |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:20 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Check out Arnie Gundersen's video posted by bananas here today at minute 4 nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Ah, Arnie. Got a real link? |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. You are wrong. All you have to do is look at EPA and UC Berkeley testing nt |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Testing what? Presence of radioactivity? |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. Why do you think that is so important? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:17 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Because the difference is extremely important |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
57. Please checkout Tetuso Matsui's analysis about nuclear chain reactions |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:19 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. And as I keep saying, that doesn't really change what you do with the plant |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. I highly recommend reading this |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. Thanks I asked the same question in another thread... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. What we're talking about is this: |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Does the neutron beam observed 13 times, 1.5 kilometers from the plant indicate criticality? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. It's the evidence for uranium fission occuring |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Keep pumping for how long? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Admittedly I oversimplified the pumping operation |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. Yes, and much worse because there is a leak, so they have to fill fill and dump nuked waste nt |
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robdogbucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Nice try, but your explanations don't wash |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. So....the laws of physics don't exist. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 01:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. Do you feel this is worse or much less serious than Chernobyl? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Much, much less |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
58. This thread is about a Japanese scientist who has evidence chain reaction has been occurring |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Is radioactive iodine an issue here? I realize it may not be the same order of |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. I really can't answer that for you |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
53. IIRC, there aren't any 'concrete pite under the reactors'. It's going to hit ground water. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Where did you read that? I've been trying to find that info thanks nt |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
56. Are you sure there is a concrete pit under each reactor? |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:20 AM Response to Reply #56 |
63. The only addition of concrete I'm aware of is to repair the concrete under reactor #3. |
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BOG PERSON (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
17. each of us will have a cool superpower very soon |
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jtuck004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. Drumbeat of Nuclear Fallout Fear Doesn't Resound Wtih Experts |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Thank you also. For those near Fukushima, it is terrible. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Nuclear industry PR... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. So this disaster is officially nowhere near as bad as Chernobyl? |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
30. ... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Even worse... |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. Ug! God ANGRY! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. k |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
43. it means a lot of people are posting misleading articles from the western press |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I read Japans state run media arm(NHK) every day first thing |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. then you must have noticed the differences between the nhk story of the 12th |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I expected differences |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. It means the pollyannas were wrong and the accident is NOT over and large amounts of radioactivity |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. I believe it is the classic meltdown scenario, like Chernobyl. |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. This one at least has a containment structure |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
66. It means that everything is OK and we can build more nukes |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
68. It means the truth will come out with the births from the second generation hence. |
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