One more sun salutation and you will ROT IN HELL !!!!!

:crazy:



Religious Right Organization: Jesus Hates Yoga


Marsha West of the American Family Association has a warning for all Christians looking for a stress-reducing way to get limber: "yoga, even if it's labeled Christian, is diametrically opposed to the Gospel of Jesus Christ." At issue seems to be the fact yoga induces "an altered state of consciousness," as reported by Brian at Right Wing Watch. And it kinda makes sense. I mean, it would be tough to maintain the degree of hateration fomented by the American Family Association in a state of consciousness altered toward the blissful side of life.

AFA is best-known for its jihad against LGBT people, and the violent, petulant rhetoric of spokesman Bryan Fisher.

However, bliss alone isn't all that West has against the practice of yoga. There's the matter of its provenance from a pagan religion. From West's article, via Right Wing Watch: ..................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/586961/religious_right_organization%3A_jesus_hates_yoga/

They better not sleep. Jesus will get fucking irate.

Just the farts, ma'am.

Sonoman

My Dr. wants me to do Yoga to minimize the pain from my degenerative joint disease. He said nothing about an altered state of consciousness.

I could use an altered state of consciousness, but what I get from Yoga is being able to move a bit more comfortably.

these people really don't want anyone feeling any better.

Jesus's first miracle was turning water into wine which puts me in an altered state of conscience every night.........

or raise their arms to the sky in praise.

IIRC, putting palms together is a yoga term called a mudra; and raising the arms to the sky is part of the "sun salutation" pose.

Sheesh, what an ignorant woman.

:argh:

:rofl:

It might be fairly elaborate stretching that involves special mats and Indian themes, but it's stretching nonetheless.

Come to think of it, crucifixion involves stretching, too, albeit a totally different kind that the body is not engineered for. That's why it's considered a form of torture. Duh. Winning.

Boy, I'm in a mood tonight... :evilgrin:

Meditating in lotus position using the mudra of receiving??!!?

For shame! :)

what others can do especially when they are not part of their flock. They are like demanding that christians should be under the same umbrella.

Especially when they take over the street in a city like Santa Monica in what is essentially a white gang ritual.

But it used to be a hippie thing, so who am I to judge? :shrug:

"Now put your head up and thrust BACK into Sun salutation!" -- The Crazy Minister in There Will be BUD

"My boyfriend's a yoga instructor... and a vessel for the god Shiva. He has a spiritual center." "Oh."

http://in.news.yahoo.com/historian-disputes-modern-day-yoga-s-hindu-identity-claims.html

Yoga, as it is practiced now, is a mix of several techniques, including some Western ones, a historian has said.

Meera Nanda, visiting professor of history of science at the Indian Institute of Science Education and Research, Mohali, says for most Indians, yoga is a living symbol of their way of life, like apple pie is to Americans. But, she adds, they are unaware that the yoga of today can't claim Vedic antiquity.

In an article in Open magazine, she writes: "Lately, Hindus in America have started flying the saffron flag over American-style yoga, which consists largely of yogic asanas and stretches. The leading Indo-American lobby, Hindu American Foundation (HAF), has recently started a vocal campaign to remind Americans that yoga was made in India by Hindus… The purist Hindu position, articulated by the HAF, is that all yoga, including its physical or hatha yoga component, is rooted in the Hindu religion/way of life that goes all the way back to the Vedic sages and yogis."

In Nanda's words: "There is only one problem with this purist history of yoga: it is false. Yogic asanas were never ‘Vedic’ to begin with. Far from being considered the crown jewel of Hinduism, yogic asanas were in fact looked down upon by Hindu intellectuals and reformers—including the great Swami Vivekananda—as fit only for sorcerers, fakirs and jogis."

/snip

I have a friend, an original Hippie (used to hang around the Canyon in the early 60's and manufacture LSD for all the other hippies) who would get visibly peeved when I talked about doing yoga. He felt the fact that the Y was teaching classes was an insult to the spiritual aspects of the practice.

I got to tsk, tsk him and rub this in his face when it came out. Interestingly, he hasn't mentioned it since.

The historian seems to be confusing the reaction of colonial era "Hindu intellectuals" (not all, I hasten to add, cos some prominent ones did advocate learning Yoga) with that of pre-colonial Hindu Intellectuals on Yoga. For starters, many colonial era "intellectuals" and "reformers" were people who were thoroughly confused about their identity. On one hand they were brought up in a very Christian manner thanks to the schools they attended(most often they were missionary schools), thus were somewhat lacking in a historical perspective/knowledge, and tried to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Some did resist this trend, Ananda Coomaraswamy and Vivekananda come to mind.You would be surprised to know the amount of Stuff they tried to get rid of (but are valued as "pearls of wisdom" by contemporary Hindu intellectuals and reformers today. The positive health benefits of Yoga, amongst other things were once sneered upon by these very "intellectuals' the historian seems to be quoting.

Furthermore she is patently wrong when she claims that Swami Vivekananda made a similar claim! It's rather shocking given that Vivekananda wrote volumes on Yoga. His collected works are online for everyone to access for free.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Complete_Works_of_Swami_Vivekananda

I'll post a quote of his here

"What you others call a dream is for us the only reality. Cities,
luxuries, the marvels of consumer life, we have awakened
from that brutal dream by which you are still enthralled. We
close our eyes, we hold our breath, we sit under the kindly shade
of a tree before the primitive fire, and the Infinite opens its doors
to us and we enter into the inner world which is the real one"


The "historian" seems to have quite a proclivity to state only half truths..omitting the most important parts.

Cheers

And Jedi are Pagan un christian scum.

Links:
http://acatholiclife.blogspot.com/2008/05/father-jeremy-davies-avoid-yoga-massage.html


http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=39690


They also thought the world was round....

like a coin.

Hard to know which side to root against.

So I'm rooting against the stupid fundie bullshit. At least the yoga folks are pretty laid back compared to the fundies...

they need to mind their own freaking business and stop being obsessed with the peaceful practices of others.

I have asked them to please tend to the dying, the homeless, the ones in prison, the starving children and the neglected ones in society--and they just look at me with a blank look.

:wtf:

Are they serious? You know what else produces an altered state of consciousness? Being nailed to a fucking cross.