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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:39 PM Original message |
I will sign a Libertarian ballot petition, but I will not sign a Green Party ballot petition. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Why? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Libertarians Split The Right, Sir |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Well said, sir. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Shit Magi... Many Democrats Split The Left... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. True Enough, Sir |
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AlabamaLibrul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. That, sir, is one take on it |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I do it to split the right-wing vote and not the left-wing vote. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. No. You are forcing Dems to face 2 opponents from the right. The right looks stronger. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:32 AM Response to Reply #39 |
51. What effect does that have on the voters' decision? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:00 AM Response to Reply #51 |
75. It pulls the discussion to the right and the reporting to the right. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Do the Republicans want to look like the minority when they support Green Party ballot petitions? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:49 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. They would if that candidate would have Koch bother style resorces. Reps supporting Greens |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #82 |
95. Are you speaking of the Green candidate having Koch brothers-style resources? |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
104. Not how it works. The right is ideologically split, and the Libertarians |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
111. Are you forgetting the presidential election of 1992? |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:06 AM Response to Reply #2 |
87. Correction: Greens split the DEMOCRATS, |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Please see post #11. |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. I will have cereal for breakfast, but I won't have toast. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. If Puck lives in this house, then Pedro will not live in this house. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thatsa Really Niiice... |
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Gemini Cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
8. I saw three bikes today. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. I love lamp. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
14. I will not eat Green Eggs and Ham. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I will not eat them in a Car. |
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postulater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
15. I was planning to sleep late yesterday but got up early today instead. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
16. I don't RBTexLa with you. nt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
103. Oh, my. Superb. nt |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-12-11 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
17. Back in 2004 Bush supporters circulated Nader petitions |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
19. Big surprise |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Why do you think that that's how I think? |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
20. I sign both. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Like I asked Loco. What is a Libertarian ballot petition? |
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cmd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
22. If I sign either I become a member of that party (Ohio) |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
23. What is a Libertarian ballot petition? You won't answer. You rarely do but the question deserves |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. In Illinois, a party needs a certain number of signatures to get a line on the ballot. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. So you willingly empower the right? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Yes. When 2/3rds of the ballot promote the right wing view of the issues and the subsequent |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
41. I would love it if every election featured one liberal and two conservatives. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
66. The person who has to fight two opponents usually loses. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:50 AM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Aren't I also causing the Republicans to fight two opponents? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:08 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. No because the Reps and Libs are more ideologically aligned. They make the Dem look like the |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:37 AM Response to Reply #77 |
98. Why hasn't this happened in my district? |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:41 PM Response to Reply #66 |
105. Nonsense. It is obvious that two candidates for one group will |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Would you decline? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. I suppose that would depend on what I had the opportunity to decline. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #43 |
61. The petition. You could decline to sign the Libertarian petition. That would be a choice, as well. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I gladly sign the Libertarian petitions. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. And you gladly support the right wing.; |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:50 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Why did I vote for Democrats? |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:33 PM Response to Reply #71 |
110. I reckon they have become ideologically acceptable to you. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #69 |
106. self-delete. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
24. Deleted message |
LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. O RLY? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I never said I wouldn't vote for democrats. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. It's a fine line, ain't it. No need to reply, my friend. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
42. If you didn't say that, what did you say? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I said this: |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. When do you estimate that the Libertarians will take power? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:31 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Right now, it isn't likely since they aren't on the ballot. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. How many election cycles would that need to be? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I'm not sure. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. The Libertarians have already been on the ballot mour than four times in Illinois. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:40 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Quicker when Democats, like you, support them and force Democratic candidates to fight two fronts. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. They do not have to win separate elections against each party running. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
73. They have to fight two nearly united fronts to win one election. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Do the Libertarians give the Republicans their votes if they lose? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:51 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. Duh. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 12:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Deleted message |
Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
35. You are 100% supporting the empowerment of a right wing party. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Indeed he is. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. He's advocating to empoer that Democrats fight on two fronts! Putting them in a very weak position. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. What did the Libertarian Party get done by being on the ballot? |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Elect two people, House and Senate, who get an extra-ordinary amount of air time. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:41 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Neither my representative, nor my two senators are Libertarians. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
79. But you enabled Libs to get on the ballot in your state in election after election after election |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #79 |
99. Is a Democrat more likely to vote for the Libertarian Party, or vote for the Green Party? |
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trackfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
36. hoom n/t |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
40. Why are you allowed to support a right wing party? There is no doubt I'd be banned if I did the |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I do not support the Republicans, and I do not support the Libertarians. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:29 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. You want the Libertarians on the ballot, I think that counts as support. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Even in Chicago, I was only allowed to vote for one candidate in most races. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:34 AM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Doesn't matter how you personally vote. What matters is that you are empowering |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Everybody else only gets one vote. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:43 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. But only if the choice is on the ballot and you are advocating to add another right wing voice on |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Only the candidate's name goes on the ballot, not their platform. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:57 AM Response to Reply #54 |
84. More like weakening the other. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:43 AM Response to Original message |
63. OP I'm still waiting for you to explain how you are not |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:46 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. None of the Libertarian candidates that I helped put on the ballot won a seat. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:48 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Whether they won or not is irrelevant to the question at hand. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 01:49 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I suppose I did help get it on the ballot. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:17 AM Response to Reply #65 |
78. Unbelievable! You admit to helping out the right wing and it stands! WTF!!! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #78 |
93. I believe that I helped out a right-wing party, but possibly diminished the right wing in doing so. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
80. I fully believe this OP. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 02:31 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I do, too. I also believe that if I had started a thread with the opposite, I'd be eating a pizza. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:19 AM Response to Reply #80 |
92. As do I, and it's not one bit surprising. nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 05:59 AM Response to Original message |
85. Isn't it against DU rules to support anyone but Democratic candidates? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Yes. |
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RandiFan1290 (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
86. I like turtles! |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:07 AM Response to Original message |
88. They are closer to your ideology? |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
89. I will now |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
90. I would do the opposite and I'll tell you why. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #90 |
97. What happens when the center feeds the donkey first? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. When the center feeds the donkey first? Nothing much happens. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:08 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. Is Obama more progessive than Al Gore? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:27 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Perhaps you would be so kind as to reply to the thesis of my original reply to you |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. I think the primary system can take care of what you're after without putting Republicans in office. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
91. Whatev...nt |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
96. Fuck the Libertarians |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. I like the Green Party's positions better than the Libertarian Party's positions. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
102. You again. nt |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
107. Hugh. |
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