I've heard that they're going to spend $1,000,000,000 on Obama's campaign...

That is equal to:
20,000 Chemo treatments, these would be the extremely expensive new experimental drugs that run in the $50,000 range. Other drugs that cost less obviously provide more treatments per billion dollars.

3,333,333 weeks of groceries at $300 per week.

1,000,000 months of rent at $1,000 per month.

10,000,000 outfits at $100 an outfit.

100,000 students educated for a year at $10,000 per student.

55,555 yearly incomes for people living at the poverty line for a family of four in the USA which is about $18,000.

Meanwhile, we will spend this money on either worshiping a man or trashing another person (probably some rich white dude.)
That, my fellow DUers, is money well spent.
Hey, you may not be eating, but you will be hearing how the opponent likes to eat little children for breakfast.
Hey, you may not be able to afford to shop anywhere else but thrift stores, but you will be seeing people who could buy the entire thrift store out.
You may not have health care, but you will be seeing people argue over it.
Your kids may go to a shitty school, but you will probably be seeing people who went to Ivy League schools at some point in their lives.
You may not have a house, but you will be seeing them argue over getting into a house you supposedly own.
They probably won't include anything but token references to poverty, but they could have paid more than 50,000 people to live at the poverty level, or doubled their income, pulling them out of poverty.

Will someone please think of the TV stations?
Or my grass and flowers?

I don't know, how much fertilizer does $1,000,000,000 buy these days?
At $40 for a 50lb bag: 25,000,000 bags.

Dayum.

That's why unemployment is at 9%, and the jobs people are "lucky" enough to find are shitty McJobs, right?

Hey, you may have been an engineer, but just think about the math of flipping a fucking burger, or making a Starbucks drink.

Or the other rich white dude the Republicans will put up?

And Fascism would have come to America a whole lot fucking sooner.

at the airport knows that it's doing quite fine.

That is state sponsored molestation. There is a difference. If everyone were so concerned, they would stop flying. But they aren't. Send the TSA a message with your pocketbook. The airlines will rise up and freak out. I will never fly again.

And I know some people who won't be getting their nuts felt up:
1. Anyone with a private jet.
2. Anyone flying on a public jet, you know, really big and comfy with a bed, like Airforce One.

THAT is why they aren't getting their nuts felt up. You're not losing freedom of movement. You'd just be changing the mode of transport. That's different.

just about.

Trains can equal air transit's time, but only on shorter routes. And now they want to fuck that up too.

What? A bus? Buses are slower and more dangerous than airplanes.

That argument has no ending point, it be applied to any form of transportation.

Most stations aren't manned and you have to buy a ticket from a conductor if you want to board a train without pre-booking. Go ahead and fly. that's your choice, but don't bitch at me because you're getting your genitals fondled and your kids are getting frisked.

how long until they do something more drastic? First it was a no fly list for airplanes, and that's all it was going to be.
Then you got your nuts felt up.

Now? What's next for planes?
Body cavity searches? Seems like the most logical conclusion.

It's not like terrorists can't blow up trains and kill a lot of people, right?

3/11 in Spain proved that.

But if we thought about everything they could do in this country, we'd never leave the house. Honestly, if the terrorists are so evil and impending boogey men, why aren't they bombing malls and leaving IEDs on busy interests? Because they aren't. They want you to be scared, but honestly, as long as that stuff isn't happening in our country, calm down and quit worrying about it. People in Israel have far worse terrorism, but they are merely prepared and live their lives as normal. But if the TSA started running our airlines the way El Al runs their airline, you guys would freak out, even though they have never had a terror attack and have one of the highest safety records in the world. They racially profile, they do background checks and have stringent security without feeling up old women and babies, or anyone else for that matter. Why can't we go to a system like that? Want to fly? Submit to a background check, vetting, and be racially profiled. How freaked out would people be?

????

So your saying either way we are heading towards fascism, only the Dems will give us the scenic tour first. How lovely. LOL.

The Republicans on a state level are taking care of fascism on their own. I live in Oklahoma. I'm living in it right now.

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Even Clinton had to work with congress to succeed at what he did when he was President. He didn't just magically fix everything overnight. Jesus Christ. He's one fucking man, and he has to work against idiots like Boehner. It's not his fault his friends in Congress squandered their majority and worried about getting reelected, not realizing they would have kept their majority if they'd have stopped worrying about getting fucking reelected and got shit done!
Duckie

By the sounds of it, the Obama model not only saves the world, he also makes a mean daiquiri, mows the lawn, and cures cancer.

He always said it was going to take some time to get things fixed. You guys are worse than the fucking republicans with this crap.
Duckie

Sid

new crop of Democrats along with him in Congress and in state legislatures all across the country. That would be money well-spent.

As for your whiny OP - Unrecced.

We're willing to spend money on people who already were doing good in life, while normal people suffer.

It goes right back into local economies.

It's called resource allocation.

The money made a hop through the economy on something that doesn't seem to be helping average people very much these days.

Get all this money OUT OF POLITICS. Everyone Democrat should be for campaign finance reform.

it's not a post about how much elections cost, but about how much Obama is going to spend. It could just have easily been about how much the Republicans are going to spend.

A better post would be exactly what you wrote. Get all this money out of politics.

Sid

I can post here.

I bet talking about what the Republicans will spend is going to do much for DU, right? Other than piss people off, it won't accomplish much.

I think people should spend the money they'd send to a political campaign on the Red Cross or another charity that comes in and cleans up after the incompetence of our leaders is shown.

Just how many floods do we have to have before we beef up the damns, dikes, levies, whatever in America? What does it take for these folks to wake up?

How bridges out there are still in shitty condition?

would question the imperative for campaign finance reform but the reality at the moment is that it will take a ton of money to keep the right wing wackos from taking the White House. Citizens United is a part of this scary reality. I really can't afford it but I will probably send the president some money next year.

Buy a loaf of bread, it probably has your interests more at heart than he does. Just think of this:
He will probably never know you even walk the face of planet Earth, and yet he is tasked with making decisions about your life that include life and deaths decisions.

Sid

the President?

Not so much.

The Republicans are likely to spend just as much.

Sid

What, was someone speculating this in the corporate media or something? That doesn't make it a fact.

Julie--who thinks we need publicly funded elections

The Republicans will spend 10 billion or more. They have access to unlimited, unaccountable, secret corporate money, and even foreign corporations and governments can get into the act.

We were outspent by at least 4 to 1 in 2010, and they were just getting warmed up.

Now the insurance companies are desperate to get HCR repealed before all the cancers that will be caused by Fukushima start pouring into the hospitals.
That would cost them hundreds of billions of dollars, so a few billion to flip the election would be a bargain for them.

The Koch brothers will be kicking in a few billion. The Saudis will likely be kicking in even more, as well as letting prices go up to hurt our chances even more. They are still pissed that we didn't keep Mubarak in power for them.

The Repigs are equally desperate to shut down Medicare and Medicaid ASAP for the same reason.

Their desire to do these things is not new, but their motivation has increased a hundredfold since Fukushima.

then do it.
Else ways, we gotta do what we gotta do, because having a republican president would be a real disaster.
Please keep us aprised of your progress on this project.

for starters. "They" own the place; insert various groups with their nefarious objectives at will.

It's not just the Kock brothers. Two dudes didn't just fuck us all over.

No it's many more people who benefit from this shit.

Insert at will means, Wall Street millions, health insurance industry...take your pick, the U.S.
has many high rollers.

but ask any DUers out there, and those will be some of the first names out of their mouths.

I will give it to the food bank.

That spews lies, slander, and venom every day against him.

That's seems to have been the single biggest problem of this ( first) term.


I guess one can hope that the second term ( if there IS one) will let loose his inner progressive... since he won't have to fund raise again.

IF there is an inner progressive.

One can only hope.

Can't hurt to hope.

did you cross post it or something?

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about a month or so ago (announcement still out on WH website)

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That's a lot of cake to spread around. Bring it on...it's going to be a long year anyway.

People may choose the spend their money any way they want. Perhaps your argument is better spent getting names and address of all those that CHOOSE to contribute their OWN money on Obama's campaign and tell them where to spend it instead.

If you are arguing for campaign financing regulations, or some sort of campaign limitation reform, then you posed your question and surrounding data in a terribly inflammatory manner and I give it a "FAIL" and a neg rec for being obnoxious and inflammatory, and having a wild hair that doesn't really make sense.