Why are Republicans against everything fair, decent and sane?

I guess there’s no profit in fairness, decency, or sanity.

Take a step back and view what has been the entire agenda of the Republican Party for the past 30 years. While using the word “reform,” they have strived to fuck the American people every way possible. Want some examples?

The disappearing middle class; education; health care; jobs; no taxes on the wealthy; no sanely priced prescriptions for the rest of us; the total destruction of the social safety net, -- Oh, hell. Do I really need to go through the entire litany of what they have done and are still doing to us?

The zombies will go on voting for Republicans no matter what. Yet, I don’t understand why the rest of us aren’t raising hell against the Republican owned voting machines.

The lack of Democratic leadership is appalling. And the number of times that Dems cave in on critical issues is disgusting. So, ever though the Republicans really suck a lot, the Democratic Party has been out to lunch for 30 years. Perhaps the ghost of Ronald Reagan still haunts them.

So how do we turn America into a somewhat fair, somewhat decent, somewhat sane country? Beats me. Any suggestions?

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...the addiction to money and power dulls one senses of common decency and fairness. Add to that arrogance and ignorance and you have today's rushpublicans...

It's a sickness.

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We cannot ever rest...because they do not.

Our lives, and the life of our nation, are at risk if we don't.

As long as we allow the Supreme Court to grant personhood to corporations, corporations to own politicians, corporations to own and control the "news" media, no consequences for deliberately false information being presented as "news", voting machines with no safeguards or voting verification capability, and others...this situation will only continue to escalate until at last we are a poverty ridden country with a very big military to keep all the peasants in line.

I don't believe that someone who works super hard and is extremely intelligent and makes good sound decisions and becomes wealthy on his own accord should be penalized to be made 'fair' with someone who isn't as intelligent, doesn't make as good of decisions, and who doesn't work as hard.

That is one problem I have with the word fair, what really is fair? Shouldn't people be rewarded if they work harder than others? Do I feel that the wealthy should pay no taxes? Of course not but they should not be penalized to the point of paying 99 percent taxes or some crazy amount like that.

But what is fair and reasonable while still rewarding certain behaviors?

:popcorn:

I agree totally that the tax laws in this country are extremely skewed at this point and the rich do need to pay a lot more in taxes but it has to be a reasonable amount that won't stifle people's desire to better themselves.

If someone has a grand idea that can make them wealthy but then they are taxed say 95 percent, what is the point of them even attempting to go with their grand idea since even if they made a million dollars, they would only take home 50 thousand dollars. At that point, its just "why bother".

already answering this question.

Instead of "deferring" it.

The CEO who sits on his ass all day, runs the company into the ground, and all the while raking in not only a bonus for being a "live body", but another bonus when he leaves said company?

But if the CEO was paying a reasonable amount of taxes, it shouldn't be as big of a deal as it currently is. From what it sounds like, people like that end up paying next to nothing in taxes, that is totally wrong and NOT fair.

"works super hard and is extremely intelligent and makes good sound decisions and becomes wealthy on his own accord.."

But how many current heads of corporations can claim all of these standards as to why they are wealthy?

I would say none...

No one has proposed a 99% tax rate. And the word "fair" is intuitively obvious to most rational human beings.

So I guess if someone is not intelligent and makes bad decisions they deserve to starve, fall into a hole and die.

There are many philosophies to admire. But to me, Ayn Rand's view of humanity sucks a lot.

I have a disabled wife (brain injury) who can't get SSI because she was a stay at home mom for many years, been out of work for over a year now, no more money left in the bank at all, on the verge of losing a house, so its not like I am doing all that well myself. But I still don't begrudge someone that makes a lot of money because of their better intelligence, discipline, or strive.

I just wish I had the intelligence, discipline and strive that a lot of people have in this world and then maybe I would not be in my dire situation.

However those people that do quite well in this world DO need to pay a fair amount of taxes.

Mostly moulded by history.

How does voting against the American people help America? It is bewildering.

trying to do is serve the interests of those who own them: the Plutocracy. And they are very good at that. Say one thing for a Repig, when they are bought they STAY bought.

campaigns, and no outside money can be donated to anyone, anytime for any reason.

In one word, selfishness. How do we turn it around?? Nothing will start to change until tens of thousand of citizens take to the streets in every state.

They don't even have to have a pot to * in. They have a reptilian basic fear of sharing or working together to solve communal problems. That's why they can't even accept that someone can have a better idea that doesn't enhance their idea of hoarding money, resources,or power.

There are many degrees of selfishness. Some only apply to their religious doctrines. Only they and their group have the only answer. While others extreme base degree that pushes the thought that they cannot give even a part of their personal earnings to assist in their own government functions.

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It has been speculated that it brought down the Roman Empire and it made them do shit that was crazy..and I submit that we are eat up with the crazes now.

Every single cause the republicans have is driven by bogeymen

have always been repugs. Does the idea of thinking for themselves ever occur to them? Apparently not for geneaology evidently reinforces bad ideology.

And they're sticking to it in the face of public outrage.

Or they think they will be one day.

a sane approach to any issue. :patriot:

When you're rich you can afford not to give a damn.

"Socialism" has never been a problem in America except in the minds of those who believe that Joe McCarthy was God and the Republican Party is there to fight "evil."

There are those stupid enough to buy into that kind of crap, and many of them profit from it.

"Let them eat cake" may have sounded good to Marie Antionette. But this time around, the future and ecological survival of the entire planet is at stake. And those who think they can afford to not give a damn will find that the consequences to them, and everyone else on this planet, will be far worse than the guillotine.

Compassion is antithetical to the Republican philosophy.

I think that's the meta-framing they play off of. So, for them, greed is natural, and fighting it is "unnatural", i.e. regulation is perverse. It's the way they get the wishy-washy to agree that corporations need to be freed from any constraints.

Framing them as "unnatural" should be easy, frankly. I wish more people would try it. "The unnatural Republican obsession with money". "The unnatural fascination of Republicans with power." "Republicans, despite all common sense, see themselves as heroes when they ruthlessly suppress their natural sympathy for other human beings.

You know, stuff like that. :-)

I think. At least, I THINK that's what they think, although they don't seem to realise that they think it. Whenever anyone expects tham to behave responsibly there's this inner teenager that says "NOOOOO!!!"

Including each of our TeaPubliKlan friends and relatives.

Democrats are often bad enough but TeaPubliKlans start out well beyond the pale and get much worse super quick, like faster than light quick.

An organized, billionaire funded think-tank. A long-term push to control media and inject a far-right group think into society... disguised and wrapped in hot-button issues like god, guns , immigration and abortion. (of course..all the time... accomplishing the Repuke goals).

The Sarah Palin crowd sucks up this propaganda and makes it their main-stream group think, because most of them read at an 8th grade level.. if lucky. Then... they vote against their own best interests and ruin life in America for everyone.

The Koch-Sucker Brothers are the true rulers of this country.

God, guns,immigration and abortion.

The Republican way is throw aside reason, sanity, tolerance and compassion.

Sell power, hatred, religious bigotry and you've got every know-nothing in the country.

And you are right about the Koch Brothers. Their voices are a whole lot louder that ours because of their wealth.

So here's my suggestion. Let's not eat cake. Let's borrow the moral equivalent of France's guillotine.