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Xicano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 08:43 PM
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"Rating Agencies Win Dismissal of Lawsuits"
Reuters:

Wednesday's ruling by the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York was a victory for McGraw-Hill Co's (MHP.N) Standard & Poor's, Moody's Corp's (MCO.N) Moody's Investors Service and Fimalac SA's (LBCP.PA) Fitch Ratings, and upheld three lower-court decisions.

Rating agencies have been widely faulted, including by Congress, for contributing to the global credit and financial crises that began in 2007 by issuing high ratings on debt that proved risky. The agencies have in other litigation argued their ratings were opinion protected by the First Amendment.

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The plaintiffs alleged that the rating agencies failed to act as dispassionate evaluators of credit risk, and instead actively aided in the securitization process, working closely with banks until the desired high ratings were achieved.

But the 2nd Circuit said the agencies were not liable under federal securities law as "underwriters," because they did not directly help distribute the securities, and rather simply enabled others to do so through their ratings.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/11/us-ratingagencies-ruling-idUSTRE74A4OK20110511





This ruling is complete bullshit! "First amendment rights to give credit rating 'opinions'"? WTF? That's just not true, that's just total horse shit!

As officially government recognized agencies these credit rating agencies have many laws giving them the fiduciary obligation to report the ratings of annuity accounts, retirement accounts and all types of accounts. The law requires these agencies to report accurate grades on all these securities for you to be able to invest in.

This court ruling is just another in your face proof showing the corruption between Washington and Wall Street.

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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 09:10 PM
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1. Holy shit. So this means that these agencies can never be trusted
again as far as I am concerned. And if they cannot be trusted, who can? Uh, I guess no one. So again, we are all just on our own flapping in the breeze.

What is it coming to, when Faux News can be considered News, and rating companies can issue "opinions".

:banghead: :wtf:
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 10:40 PM
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2. Impt.; K&R'd.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:03 PM
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3. Is that the only way they could make them liable? By classifying them as underwriters?
Jeez as much as I want them to be liable I am not sure I would classify them that way.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:04 PM
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4. Since the market needs reliable rating agencies, they will appear
Unfortunately, they will likely be private, and expensive. But there's no reason they can't expand Irving Kristol's philosophy to all significant facts about the market.

"There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn't work." - Irving Kristol
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:08 PM
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5. This should do wonders for...
confidence in our markets. :crazy:
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Roadie70 Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:19 PM
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6. I saw Inside Job last night...
this makes me want to puke. If you haven't seen the movie I highly recommend it. But be prepared, it will piss you off to no end, and a number of the criminals you see in the film are now members of the Obama administration.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-11 11:22 PM
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7. IIRC the new Financial Regulations makes them liable since they enjoy the stamp of approval by the..
...government and profit from their must have ratings for bonds.

It's a day late dollar short but better late than never.
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