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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 07:55 AM
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Obama seeks more drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico
Cross post from LBN

Source: Reuters

President Barack Obama, under pressure from Republicans and the public to bring down gasoline prices, announced new measures on Saturday to expand domestic oil production in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico.

High fuel prices have dented Obama's ratings in opinion polls and threaten to dampen the economic recovery that is critical to his re-election in 2012.

The president, a Democrat, has pushed for reducing U.S. oil consumption and expanding renewable energy sources while also focusing on domestic oil and gas production -- an area Republicans want to expand dramatically.

In his weekly radio and Internet address, the president met some of those Republican demands, outlining ways to boost domestic drilling and better coordinate the process of issuing permits in Alaska.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/14/us-obama-oil-...
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 07:57 AM
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1. I've always thought that Obama had some form of abuse syndrome.
He's like a chameleon changing his colors to match what he thinks
are the ones with power or some kind of moral superiority. The
problem is .. he's got it wrong and has no center.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:32 AM
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9. I feel bipolar following his policies and decisions.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:30 AM
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24. Stockholm syndrome
'In psychology, Stockholm syndrome is a term used to describe a paradoxical psychological phenomenon wherein hostages express empathy and have positive feelings towards their captors. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors as an act of kindness.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
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Coyote_Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:05 AM
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2. More
frickin change I can believe in.

Color me unimpressed.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:07 AM
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3. Hmmm... I remember his tv infomercial about saving the polar bears -
Edited on Sat May-14-11 08:07 AM by TBF
guess they've been swept under the bus with the rest of us.
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F Bastiat Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:07 AM
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4. Bad news for speculators who are speculating up.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:08 AM
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5. How will drilling help short term? I can't really see it. No matter, Obama gives the rethugs
what they want, as always.

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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:22 AM
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6. this won't bring prices down
(maybe a few pennies) but will increase oil companies profits and screw up the wilderness. An oil leak in Alaska is an even bigger deal than the Gulf.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:31 AM
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7. No surprises there
Edited on Sat May-14-11 08:32 AM by blindpig
After the anti-human, anti-environment coddling of BP last year it is clear whose side this, or any administration is on.

"The business of America is business"

Nuff said
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:40 AM
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8. This is an entirely political gesture
Drilling more, whether in Alaska or the Gulf will not and can not effect changes in the global oil market anytime soon, if at all. Obama isn't operating in an information vacuum and is fully aware of this. He isn't the Polar Princess, Palin, who actually believes the numbers will begin spinning downward on the gas pumps the minute a hole is drilled in the frozen north.

It's just a move to counter the ceaseless Drill-Here-Drill-Now yammering from the idiots during the next election.
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Fla_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:47 AM
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11. Suddenly, I feel so much better
If it's just for political reasons.... then that's ok.





:smoke:
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:33 PM
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29. Well as long as he gets the votes of the center idiots,
whats a little drilling in the Gulf or Alaska going to hurt. Just as long as he benefits from it in the next election, it's all good.


:puke:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:38 AM
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10. They were selling domestic oil abroad!!!
How does this help us???? Oh yeah, jobs for clean-up workers.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:07 AM
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15. Ain't about 'us', never has been

Certainly ain't about the environment which sustains us all. It is all about the wants and needs of the ruling class.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:36 AM
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25. Which is "at least 10% growth over last year" (or more)
every year.

It's like running around in circles, until the day the planet will stop sustaining life.

Brilliant.

Not.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:00 AM
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12. Drill, baby, drill
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:04 AM
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13. Is Wasilla on the list for gouging, dredging, and ruining? Hope springs...!
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:05 AM
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14. This could have an impact on prices in that it might slow the speculators a bit..
It also kills a RW talking point. If it helps him get reelected then its worth it. We cannot risk having the GOP take the WH.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:39 AM
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16. The RW talking point will be that he doesn't drill enough
They'll want derricks within sight of every beach, except a few beaches where rich people hang out.

Those people are never satisfied which is why it's never strategic to do something just to appease them.

There might be other good reasons to drill but getting the right wing off his back isn't one of them.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:26 AM
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21. It isnt to appease the RW.. its a message to middle America.
The RW idiots will never vote for Obama.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 01:08 PM
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26. What message does it send to middle America?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:30 PM
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28. that he is trying to do something about the high price of gas..
duh
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:40 PM
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30. Middle America doesn't give a damn about "trying." They care about results
And since drilling won't lower the price, why bother?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:45 PM
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31. It could help lower prices if speculators think these measures will be effective long term.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:35 PM
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32. Speculators are smart, They won't fall for that BS
Prices will go down when demand goes down.

But since the odds of that happening are slim and none, it's generally a good bet to speculate.

The only people that offshore drilling will help are the people that make clean-up supplies, which makes up a negligible percentage of the electorate.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:48 PM
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33. I'm not so sure speculators are necessarily smart.. but they are good gamblers.
and good gamblers are risk adverse. These actions by the President will make them think twice about dumping millions into oil futures... imo.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 04:40 PM
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34. Why would those actions make them think twice?
How much oil is available offshore?

A minuscule amount compared to our needs.

One more thing: Once it's gone, it doesn't come back.

If the President wanted to make them sweat he'd propose serious conservation measures, but that's not his goal.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 04:51 PM
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35. Hard to say.. but most voters will see it as a reasonable attempt to help stop the price rise.
BTW, the President has proposed serious conservation and alternative energy measures. I guess you havent been paying attention.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/energy-and-environment

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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:40 PM
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36. A serious conservation effort would be to tell people not to drive so damn much
That link is just stuff that appears painless that sounds good.

Want a serious conservation effort? Outlaw free parking.

It'll never happen.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 06:24 PM
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37. I agree with you about trying to get people to stop driving so much..
but thats quite a challenge in this car-loving and car-dependent country.
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Kermitt Gribble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:54 AM
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19. There's some great logic...
Let's adopt and enact right wing policies so the right wingers don't regain the White House and enact right wing policies..

Brilliant.

:eyes:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:25 AM
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20. you have no idea.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:46 AM
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17. More drilling: just as any Republican President should
Wait... I thought he said he was a Democrat?!?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:50 AM
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18. It's not our oil....
It is the oil companies oil and they will continue to gouge us as long as they get away with it...

Taxing each trade that speculators make would at least help decrease the budget but even that is off the table it seems...
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:27 AM
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22. You can always count on Obama!
:bounce:

PB
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:28 AM
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23. Um, we are at record supply levels
There is no need for new drilling, even if the republicans say so.

Um, any new oil found would just be sold on the world market to the highest bidder. Go after the speculators please.
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AlabamaLibrul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 01:22 PM
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27. USA FUCK YEAH
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