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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:13 AM
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Oops: F-35A Combat Radius May Not Meet Minimum Requirement
unhappycamper note: Since the ‘Pentagon’ (DoD? Gannett?) has ‘requested’ that I only post one paragraph from articles on Army Times, and Airforce Times, To keep in that same (new) tradition, I will also do the same for for articles on Navy Times, Marine Corps Times, stripes.com and military.com.
To read the article in the military's own words, you will need to click the link.

Read all about Fair Use here. It sure is beginning to smell like fascism.

unhappycamper summary of this article: DoD and Congress continues to pump money into this failed program; I guess F/A-18s aren't expensive enough and we know that F-16s are so not 21st century. (Be sure to read the comments on the discussion following the Op on the original thread.)




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F-35A Combat Radius May Not Meet Minimum Requirement

This report shows that Pentagon officials estimate the F-35A Air Force variant of the JSF will to meet its minimum combat radius requirement of 590 nautical miles. Granted, it misses the target by only six miles, but still, it’s missing the minimum performance metric. Program officials had estimated that the plane would have a combat radius of 690 nautical miles. This puts the Air Force version of the jet in between the Marines’ short take-off and vertical landing F-35B and its combat radius of 469 nautical miles and the Navy/Marines’ F-35C carrier variant which has a radius of 615 nautical miles.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:16 AM
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1. Quick! Invest another $500B in the project!
And order 100 more!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:16 AM
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2. 'it misses the target by only six miles, but still, it’s missing the minimum performance metric.'
how much did this cost?

cause i hear tell we're having a debt and deficit problem.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:21 AM
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3. How much these things cost is a closely held secret.
In my reading of the military rags over the past few years, i think these things cost around $243 million a pop. Granted that is less than the $350 million dollars the F-22 costs, but gimmeafuckingbreak.

The F/A-18 is around $93 million dollars and the F-16 (Block 60) aircraft is well north of $60 million dollars.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:34 AM
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5. dear. lord. god. -- i read those #s and it just makes all the speeches made
about the federal budget just so stupid.

our DoD & MIC are so completely out of control.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:23 AM
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4. From the comments and really on mark
8yrs. to put man on the moon----8 yrs. devoloping a fighter that is way over budget and it doesn't meet requirements
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PuffedMica Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:34 AM
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6. The Pentagon will fine Lockheed Martin 100 million dollars for not meeting specification
Next the Pentagon will award Lockheed Martin a 1 billion dollar contract for a feasibility study for increasing the range of the F-35 by 12 miles, ±6 miles.
This will be followed by engineering modification contract for 10 billion dollars to add the six miles to each plane.
Filially, Lockheed Martin will receive a bonus of 200 million dollars for solving the range issue.

And the Military Industrial Complex marches on.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:55 PM
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12. They really need to call Richard Petty on this one...
In the 1960s when NASCAR wasn't nearly as regulated as it is now, Richard Petty made his fuel lines out of four-inch fire hose. Improved his range pretty dramatically, especially since it wasn't in there straight. Yes, he got caught and you can't do that anymore.

I do not know how much fuel it takes to fly 12 miles in an F-35, but it seems to me like they could just stick a second, smaller gas tank between the main tank and the engines.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:36 AM
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7. the military industrial complex thrives on failure
gives them excuses to increase funding.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:01 AM
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8. I'm going into the stealth external drop tank business!
Who's with me?

Cha-Ching!!!!!!

$$$$

:banghead:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:54 AM
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10. People who make bombs and missiles won't be happy
there wouldn't be any weight allowance for ordnance. With the drop tanks, it will be a sitting Duck.

That Dog won't hunt.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:08 AM
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9. Just ease up on the gas pedal
No "jackrabbit" takeoffs. Oh, and use the cruise control.

And to think - Canada is going to buy 35 of these lemons.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 07:17 PM
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11. Plenty of cheap Oil, eh?
Beer is cheaper. Stay home and get pissed.
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