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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:56 AM
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'Eye for an Eye' for acid attack in Iran at insistence of victim
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/iranian-plans-to-blind-attacker-with-acid-on-insistence-of-victim/2011/05/13/AFMsK02G_story.html?tid=obinsite
'Iranian judicial authorities plan to blind a man Saturday, after he was convicted of throwing a bucket of sulfuric acid in the face of a young woman who had refused to marry him.

International human rights organizations and the British government have asked Ameneh Bahrami, 34, to pardon Majid Movahedi, who has been in jail since his 2004 crime. But Bahrami, who was disfigured and blinded as a result of the attack, says she does not intend to do so. Instead, she hopes the punishment will be a warning to any man ever contemplating such an act.'

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'Bahrami wrote a book on her experience, “Eye for an Eye,” which was published in Germany. In the years since the attack, she has traveled between Iran and Spain, where doctors have tried unsuccessfully to restore her vision. Blind and alone in Barcelona, she spent periods of time living on the streets, until she received assistance from the Spanish government.'

more at link

Mixed feelings on this.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:03 PM
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1. Yayyyy! Vengeance is COOOOOOOOLLL!!!

Super duper.

No mixed feelings from me - he's a bad guy for throwing acid in her face and she's a bad guy for wanting to do the same thing. My position is that he should not be blinded. It is not unknown for victims of crime to be bad people.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:43 PM
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4. I'm not going to blame the victim here. The victim's character is irrelevant to
the perpetrator's guilt and need for punishment.

If the law permits this punishment, so be it. We should fault the nation that made that law and not the crime victim, who is exercising her legal rights.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:10 PM
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10. Exercising her legal rights to have 5 drops of sulphuric acid applied to each of his eyes

which punishment she can opt to bar by pardoning him. That'll be me blaming her for his blindness, I think.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:37 PM
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19. So sue them.
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Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:54 PM
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7. So she's the bad person?
blind, living on the streets in a country where she can't even talk to anyone to ask for help...and she's the bad person?

What should happen to him then? She has a lifetime of misery ahead of her.

I'm not even for blinding the guy--but I in no way see her a bad person in this. Just because their idea of justice and ours is different it doesn't make her bad.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:13 PM
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11. You bet she's the bad person

she's choosing to allow the authorities administer 5 drops of sulphuric acid to each of his eyes. That's okay with you, is it?

Bad things happening to you does not make you a good person.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:27 PM
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14. look at post 3. i dont think drops in the eye is comparative to what she with thru, firstly
second, i abhor the thought of anyone, even this man experiencing this. even drops in the eye.

third, though i think it will not be healing for her, i am not going to judge her on this. it is not a choice i would make, but i do understand without judging her as a bad person.

i feel the same for death penalty. doesnt work for me, but i understand why victims believe in it

same as an accident like dui. or others. i dont need a vengeance for an unintended outcome, where others do.

regardless of my position, i know it is only my position and why others may feel differently
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:38 PM
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20. You must be a saint.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:37 PM
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18. The term "bad guy" for his heinous evil is PUERILE. As for no vengeance: May I present to you~~~~
Oh, wait; I can't. HE'S BURIED AT SEA.

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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:05 PM
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2. An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:07 PM
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3. More responses here ->
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:47 PM
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5. This is sickening from start to finish
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vim876 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:49 PM
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6. It's not her fault.
The fact that their justice system is retributive in nature is the problem, not that the victim wants the perpetrator punished to the full extent of the law.
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sibelian Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:02 PM
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9. Oh yes it IS her fault, their law permits her to pardon him. NT
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:20 PM
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12. It's HIS fault. The threw the acid at a woman in a stone age country that fights fire with fire.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:40 PM
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16. You know, if YOU could pardon someone who blinded and disfigured you
for not wanting to marry them (go figure), you are a much better person than most people, I suppose. Perhaps you should use some of that charity and high-mindedness to try and understand the woman's position and at least not say it's her fault.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 01:52 PM
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8. This was 'postponed', several hours ago
The court-ordered blinding of an Iranian man convicted of throwing acid in the face of a fellow student who spurned him was postponed at the 11th hour on Saturday, the ISNA news agency reported.

The news agency gave no source for its report and there was no official word on any stay.

The sentence against Majid Movahedi had been scheduled to be carried out at noon (0730 GMT) at the judiciary hospital in Tehran in the presence of a physician and representatives of the coroners' office and the prosecution.

"The execution of qesas (retribution in kind) of Majid ... has been postponed to an unknown date," ISNA reported on its website just hours before the appointed time.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hjGxd9iYiQTDkHV1u69gBzEo1bRQ?docId=CNG.d56eacdc3677087406aceed5480b5969.61


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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:21 PM
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13. Lock him up until she can see again.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:39 PM
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21. So he can thank Allah 5 times every day for his sight?
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badtoworse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:31 PM
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15. This is a tough one
I don't agree with the punishment, but I'm struggling to find any sympathy for the guy if the sentence is carried out. In any system of justice, a crime such as his should be dealt with in a very harsh manner - his actions were atrocious.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 03:21 PM
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17. i have to agree with her reasoning. perhaps this is what is
Edited on Sat May-14-11 03:22 PM by ellenfl
needed to drag the stone age countries into the present. men in the middle east get away with 'honor' killings all the time. i see this as a hard win for middle eastern women and i cannot condemn the victim for her position. where were all those humanitarian groups when she was living on the streets?

ellen fl
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