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sixmile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:03 PM
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Gingrich calls Obama "...food stamp president"
Phony gingrich-or-die-tryin' is heating up the phony rhetoric

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/14/newt-gingrich-in-georgia-_n_861977.html

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'Addressing the Georgia Republican Party's convention, Gingrich said the nation is at a crossroads and that the re-election of Democratic President Barack Obama would lead to four more years of "radical left-wing values" that would drive the nation to ruin.

Gingrich also blasted Obama as "the most successful food stamp president in modern American history."

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'Saying he wanted to slash an array of taxes and bureaucracies, Gingrich praised the author of the "Laffer Curve," an economic theory that says unless taxes are kept low, individuals and corporations will invest less and seek ways to avoid paying taxes.

Gingrich cited GE. The company reported global profits of $14.2 billion last year, including $5.1 billion from U.S operations, but modest tax liabilities.

Gingrich said the 35 percent corporate tax rate should be cut to 12.5 percent. He cited GE's "remarkably rational behavior in recognizing the corporate tax rate is clearly past the Laffer curve point. And so 375 tax lawyers in the largest tax department in the world" devised "a very clever strategy which enabled General Electric to pay zero corporate taxes."

After news organizations reported that GE might pay no corporate taxes for 2010, the company stated that it expects a "small U.S. income tax liability" for that year.'

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:09 PM
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1. Too bad the Soviet Union is gone.
Gingrich would have been a real asset to their ambition of burying the U.S..
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somone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:09 PM
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2. Says the corporate welfare candidate
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:11 PM
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3. Didn't you get the memo?
Corporate welfare = GOOD, welfare for the country's citizens = BAD BAD BAD
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:38 PM
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9. He's a fucking throw back - throwing out racist dog whistles.
Has nothing to do with actual social programs.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:01 PM
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22. Those dog whistles still work with the teabagger crowd.
They eat that shit up.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:16 PM
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4. Good to see Newt is keeping it classy. (nt)
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:17 PM
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5. That's so 1980's nt
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TBA Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:23 PM
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6. I wonder how much those 375 tax lawyers cost? n/t
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 02:36 PM
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17. I kind of wonder that myself.
If these large corporations would just pay their taxes, instead of paying lawyers to avoid them, would they actually come out ahead?

Welcome to DU.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:36 PM
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7. so says the serial divorcee
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:37 PM
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8. What, was "welfare queen" used already?
Very thinly veiled, Newt.
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MatthewStLouis Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:40 PM
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10. Laugher curve sounds funny. Does anyone know anything about this bogus economic theory?
More trickle down baloney or what?
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:41 PM
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19. It was the basis of supply-side economics
This is The Laffer Curve:



Please note the Equilibrium Point. According to Laffer's theory, there is One Tax Rate--the equilibrium point--that will maximize tax revenues. If the current tax rate is above the equilibrium rate, tax revenues will fall because people will be less inclined to work if the fruits of their labor are taken by the government; if the current rate is below the equilibrium rate, tax revenues will fall because taxes aren't high enough.

The most obvious problem with Laffer's theory is it only actually works if every dollar that changes hands in the United States is taxed at exactly the same rate. Obviously it's not. Some dollars are taxed repeatedly: income tax, sales tax, federal excise tax...not to mention multiple tax rates for personal income tax and so on and so forth.

The other problem is, Republicans to a person believe the current tax rate is always at Point B--that it's higher than the equilibrium rate. At one time, we WERE in Point B land--when Truman set the top personal rate at 90 percent to pay for World War II. But for some strange reason--maybe because the part of the tax intake that wasn't dedicated to paying for the war was being spent on public works projects and on fulfilling the GI Bill of Rights--the United States was economically far stronger than it is now. As far as I can tell, the equilibrium point is actually 70 percent, not 10 percent like the pukes think it is.

But this is the thing: the Laffer Curve theory does NOT say what Gingrich thinks it says.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:46 PM
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11. obama family values vs newt's?
And fresh from his stint on the "sinner's pew" of the fundie church he pretends to pray in comes newt the serial skirt-chasing philanderer, hypocrite, know-it-all corporate shill of all time...dressed as our knight in shining turds.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:50 PM
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12. Even worse was saying 2012 is like 1860...
Douchebag is equating Obama to causing a Civil War.

FK Newt!
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 12:59 PM
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13. I'm really not sure what "food stamp president" means.
I don't know if it's intended as a racial dogwhistle, or that lots of people are on food stamps due to the economy, or if he's trying to say that Obama wants to give everybody food stamps, in a welfare sense. It's clear that Gingrich was trying to come up with something catchy and sound-bitey to define Obama, but it's escaping me.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:45 PM
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20. What I think he's trying to say is...
a lot of people are on food stamps thanks to their unemployment situation, and Gingrich is trying to tie that can to Obama's tail.

Unfortunately for Newt, the unemployment is a direct consequence of decisions Reagan made in the 1980s.

Unfortunately for Obama, the Democrats have not figured out a way to tie up the Republicans, lock them in a closet and declare a quorum so they can go about the business of dereaganizing the financial system in this nation.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 01:09 PM
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14. Blowing on that dog whistle - what an asshole!
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 01:17 PM
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15. I can't wait until Obama lets him run his mouth a while so he gets some good stuff
er. shit on the newtie and then make him look like the fool he is. Your day is coming newt err turd and you ain't gonna like it when it gets here either, I'd bet money on that.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 01:23 PM
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16. So says Mr. "Loyal Husband of the Year."
:sarcasm:
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mysuzuki2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 08:11 PM
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18. "food stamp president"?
I think I know what he means by that.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 09:59 PM
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21. I'm supposed to believe that GE would happily pay
tax if the rate was lower? What a crock. If they were willing to pay 12.5 percent, they wouldn't have paid those lawyers so much to find and exploit every single fucking loophole they could find. They want to pay ZERO, and that's what they'll try to do no matter what the rate is.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:16 PM
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23. Orsino calls Gingrich "time-wasting fake candidate." n/t
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:18 PM
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24. Haven't you disgraced yourself enough, Newt?
Have you no shame at all, asspie? You're a sick fuck, Newt.
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nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:46 PM
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25. Umm... didn't the economy collapse under Bush
which is why all of those people are on food stamps. Their solution is to just take them away and let people starve.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:48 PM
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29. +100 and welcome to DU.
I don't know why this isn't obvious to the rest of the country.
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nobodyspecial Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 12:09 AM
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30. People are stupid
and getting dumber by the day.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 10:47 PM
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26. So sayeth the serial cheater.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:09 PM
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27. spanone calls gingrich an asshole
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 11:19 PM
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28. And what establishment has The Newt been depending on for a paycheck for all these years?
That's right, the federal government, either in salary, pension, or lobbying.
A truer phoney there never was.


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