Can anyone imagine that John Edwards

will be on Meet The Press in 2020 talking about a Presidential run? Now, I am not saying I want Edwards to run in 2020 or any other time for that matter. But I would really love to hear just what the difference is between him and Gingrich. Both had affairs and left their spouses for the other women. Both of the women involved had cancer. Only one moralized about Clinton's unfitness for public office (and it wasn't Edwards). One one voted for an amendment banning marriage between same sex couples (and it wasn't Edwards). The notion that Newt is taken at all seriously in politics while Edwards, and for that matter Spitzer, are not, is mysterious.

If a person does not have those two qualities then I don't want them making decisions that affect me and 300 million other Americans

:eyes:

But, who cares about the real world, right?

But, who cares about anyone else in the real world, right?

If I won't accept no morals or no ethics from a repuke I sure the hell won't tolerate the lack of it in a Democrat! :mad: Just go ahead and belittle anyone who has standards for politics but not having them is what consitutes a repuke. x(

about any man's character. That was despicable.

and though there are parallels, you forget that Edwards fathered a child and denied it as long as he could.

is what makes his conduct better. (sodomy was against the law in GA and there was no heterosexual exception). I do admit Edwards was and is a sleaze and the kid made it worse.

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We know the Newt did this? :shrug:

Please do not post pictures if you have them.

he liked getting blow jobs.

to think of a better word.

Yes, the comparison is illuminating, isn't it.

He didn't make up an elaborate and preposterous excuse.

Because he'll never stop running.

it can be a little harder for people to forgive...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/govt/leadership/stories/012297.htm

The House voted overwhelmingly yesterday to reprimand House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) and order him to pay an unprecedented $300,000 penalty, the first time in the House's 208-year history it has disciplined a speaker for ethical wrongdoing.

The ethics case and its resolution leave Gingrich with little leeway for future personal controversies, House Republicans said. Exactly one month before yesterday's vote, Gingrich admitted that he brought discredit to the House and broke its rules by failing to ensure that financing for two projects would not violate federal tax law and by giving the House ethics committee false information.

"Newt has done some things that have embarrassed House Republicans and embarrassed the House," said Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.). "If see more of that, they will question our judgment."

House Democrats are likely to continue to press other ethics charges against Gingrich and the Internal Revenue Service is looking into matters related to the case that came to an end yesterday.

I think it would have happened already if it were going to happen.

The fact that the media plays along and overlooks Gingrich's past and allows his pompous ass on teevee is appalling to me.

well known, loved, and very popular among JE's supporters, it would be extremely difficult for him to ever overcome the scandal. I think there are many who held Elizabeth in higher regard than her husband. When people feel they know the person who was wronged, they take it much more personally,imo.

TV pundits love the douchebag, but anybody who listens to him can tell within the first 2 or 3 sentences that he has his head up his ass.

I'm not sure why they continue to try to push the narrative that this fat POS is a serious presidential candidate, but it ain't working.

Neither Edwards nor Spitzer was forced from office because of their hanky panky. Edwards resigned a senate seat to stage a losing run for national office while Spitzer simply resigned. Gingrich hung around on the fringes for a number of years until he hoped the stench of his earlier activities had slipped the public's memory. I doubt that Edwards will ever be back, he'll be lucky to stay out of jail, but Spitzer is sort of toughing it out, keeping his name in the public eye. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a run for public office in his future.

the talking heads. NG hasn't been taken seriously by the majority of voters for a very, very long time.

Newt is a hypocrite of the vilest variety.

that is cowardly and repulsive. :puke:

That being said, I am still very pissed off at John Edwards where as Newt is a horror show.

No comparison.

a few examples.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3716361&mesg_id=3716361

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=64449&mesg_id=64597

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3448146&mesg_id=3448146

most "scandals" are what the powers that be decide to make of it. fdr's being wheelchair-bound and jfk's adultery were not made into issues because the people who really wielded power didn't want to make a scandal of it, didn't want to being down those presidents.

clinton's affair WAS a scandal because the powers that be decided to make one out of it, even though it was nothing compared to what jfk did. blame it on changing times if you like, but the real issue is that if the powers that be want someone taken down, they will find a scandal if they believe it can serve to help their cause, or they will cover it up or ignore it if it serves their purpose to leave it be.

it is a sign of the times and a sign of where the true power lies that an adminstration that explicitly used torture is not considered a scandalous administration (nevermind outright criminal).

and to your point, it is a sign of where power lies these days that one bad day can ruin the career of a democrat, but a republican can be hugely sucessful without ever having a good one.

Bill, not Hillary. :-)

Honestly, I fail to see the difference between the two. Both cheated on their wives while their wives were battling terminal cancer. The only difference, as far as I can tell, is that John Edwards' political career is over (he couldn't make a successful run for anything now), whereas the Party of "Family Values" has fully embraced Newt Gingrich. Oh yeah, and all that stuff about how one kind of keeps to himself and seems ashamed of what he did while the other is completely unapologetic and comes off all "holier than thou."

...that would bring The Class War (Two Americas), and the Plight of The Poor into the national dialog.