Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Why do so many people give Julian Assange the benefit of the doubt but not Dominique Strauss-Kahn?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread		 This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:01 PM
Original message
Why do so many people give Julian Assange the benefit of the doubt but not Dominique Strauss-Kahn?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. I suppose the violence factor- no one has accused Assange of being violent
holding anyone against their will, etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. Why don't you tell us what you think about that? Somehow, we never really know
where you stand on anything.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I generally let people have their day(s) in court.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:12 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Humor me once--take a stand. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I see no reason to humor someone at the expense of someone else's reputation.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:15 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:04 PM
Response to Original message
3. Two totally different scenarios and charges maybe?

Besides which, the Assange case appears to be wafer-thin...this IMF dude appears to do this as his party-trick...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. +1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:10 PM
Response to Original message
5. I believe both should have their day in court. Assange, as we all know, has not
been charged with a crime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
8. The maid Strauss-Kahn tried to rape wasn't bragging about sex with him on Twitter?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:16 PM
Response to Original message
10. And (so far anyway) the woman accusing him doesn't have any CIA links.
Unlike one of the women accusing Assange.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:18 PM
Response to Original message
11. Why do you think the cases are related or similar?
Why should an opinion on one dictate an opinion on the other? Explain. This seems like gibberish, with a lemon twist of passive aggression to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #11
12. Both men have been accused of a crime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. So have thousands and thousands of other men.
That is not enough commonality. And what exactly are the charges standing against Assange? I was not aware he'd been charged. Please clarify. Accusation is a different level of things. Obama's minister pal McClurkin accuses gay people of trying to kill children. Is that the same as being charged, arrested, put in a line up and identified, awaiting trail? I mean, the straight world does lots of accusing just in the course of daily business. Not sure these random accusations are anything at all like arrest by the State of NY. How are they the same in your view?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. More precisely, one has been charged of a crime by the state. The other is wanted for questioning.
Edited on Mon May-16-11 04:27 PM by Luminous Animal
Speaking of which, why has Assange not yet been charged?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. That is a fair criticism of my comparison.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TNLib Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:22 PM
Response to Original message
14. Sex without a condom just seems like a silly crime. Strauss is a Rapist
nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mojeoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:23 PM
Response to Original message
15. Un-Recced for Deliberate Obtusion ~nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
22. Deliberate? Intentions of the DU member are unknown, and
criticism of the DU member could be judged to be a personal attack.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
17. I'd like to know how this latest case is different from the accusations against Al Gore.
Remember? It wasn't that long ago that a masseuse claimed that Al Gore assaulted her in a hotel room. Less than a year, in fact.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Distant Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. not much, based on detail of accusation -- assault was attempted rape it seems
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:36 PM
Response to Original message
19. Deleted message
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
RZM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
21. You could probably say that about any two people/crimes
Edited on Mon May-16-11 04:51 PM by RZM
But you should probably just come out and state the point you are implying, which I believe to be the following:

Part of the disinterest in Assange's alleged crime (apart from the details of the case itself) comes from the fact that many people (especially on a progressive board) revere him for his Wikileaks work. Strauss-Kahn, although a man of the left, is the head of the IMF, which is not an institution many on DU care about. Those who do care about it probably don't view it in a positive light.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:47 PM
Response to Original message
23. apples and oranges n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 06:49 PM
Response to Original message
24. i dont give assange any benefit of doubt. he is an ass. but his cases are not the equal to this
one.

so though i think both these people are piece of shits, i think Strauss-Kahn is much worse. creep. pig. scum. just off the top of my head
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:03 PM
Response to Original message
26. Strauss-Kahn is a financier. Why would you even ask that question?
A number of prominent DU posters hate any financier. Strauss-Kahn is not to be taken as a good guy, but the few good financiers in the world would not pass muster for some.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 08:08 PM
Response to Original message
27. Because the maid isn't a CIA tool?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:28 PM
Response to Original message
28. I don't judge either of them.
Both cases could have merit or not. Both men could've been set up Assange by the CIA and Strauss-Kahn perhaps by political adversaries in France. Both men have unsavory reputations but that would make sense if you wanted frame them.

The truth is we will never know if these men are guilty or if they are being framed. And it it doesn't matter what a court decides.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-11 09:33 PM
Response to Original message
29. I don't give either of them a pass
but I think you've hit on something. Telling America's military secrets gives your sexcapades a pass around here, whereas being head of an international organization that imposes austerity measures on countries does not.

Thanks for having the courage to point out the contradiction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun May 12th 2024, 05:41 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC