Dominique Strauss-Kahn Has Alibi, French Media Report

According to Le Figaro, generally right-leaning and one of Paris’ largest newspapers, DSK’s lawyers have reconstructed his schedule and can prove both that he checked out of his room before the attacks supposedly took place and that he was having lunch with his daughter at the time. (Read IMF Chief Denied Bail As Legal Problems Now Brew In France).

A double sexual attack was thought to have occurred around 1:00 PM on the 28 floor of the Sofitel New York, deputy commissioner and spokesman for the NYPD, Paul J. Browne, explained to reporters. The French daily, though, notes that sources have put DSK’s check out time closer to noon, with center-right daily Liberation citing police sources claiming the IMF chief handed in his keys at exactly 12:28 PM.

According to Le Figaro, generally right-leaning and one of Paris’ largest newspapers, DSK’s lawyers have reconstructed his schedule and can prove both that he checked out of his room before the attacks supposedly took place and that he was having lunch with his daughter at the time. (Read IMF Chief Denied Bail As Legal Problems Now Brew In France). After leaving his room, DSK is said to have gone to lunch with his daughter, a graduate student at Columbia University.

That same information, which, if proven, would constitute the IMF chief’s innocence, is undermined by information gathered by Liberation in New York. The daily, founded by philosopher and playwright Jean Paul Sartre, had Paul Browne, NYPD spokesman cited above, saying “”we said initially that was around 1PM, in fact it was closer to noon.” If the information proved to be accurate, DSK would have had about 28 minutes to sexually attack the 32-year-old and check out of his hotel.

http://blogs.forbes.com/afontevecchia/2011/05/16/dominique-strauss-kahn-has-alibi-french-media-report/

Only defense might be a claim of consensual sex if that is the case.

i.e. the fact of dna does not equal the fact of "sperm" -- which i am assuming is what many people assume when they hear "there's dna".

confirmed her account. Not clear what the DNA was but supposedly DSK was caught on a security cam leaving the hotel in a hurry - which could undermine the timing of the alibi. I would not be surprised that there is physical evidence of some sort placing DSK in the room with the woman - certainly if her account is correct there probably is. She may have scratched him and gotten his skin under her nails - it doesn't take much.

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110516/midtown/head-of-imf-ordered-held-without-bail-amid-sex-attack-charges

"He allegedly jumped out of his bathroom at the Hotel Sofitel on West 44th Street in the nude around 1:30 p.m. Saturday"

about an hour after he supposedly turned his keys in at the desk...


The camera evidence:

Strauss-Kahn was caught on security camera leaving the Sofitel "in a hurry," prosecutors said.

doesn't show him with the woman. leaving "in a hurry" isn't evidence.


The forensic evidence:

"The woman submitted DNA samples after the attack, and the sexual forensic exam "corroborate her account," McConnell said."

i await the evidence.



Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20110516/midtown/head-of-imf-ordered-held-without-bail-amid-sex-attack-charges#ixzz1MZhcW4Jl

Leaving in a hurry can indeed be evidence if the person is also disheveled and if they left personal articles behind when supposedly checking out of the hotel - as at least one account suggests.

Yes, await the evidence, but so far it is not looking very good for DSK.

...which will either tend to support his alibi, or not. If he says he checked out at noon to go have lunch with his daughter, and the camera shows him hurrying away at 1:30, that would not tend to support his alibi. If the camera shows him moseying out at 12:05 or so, that would tend to support it.

I'm guessing his alibi will turn out to be flimsy. But we shall see.

The maid allegedly entered his hotel suit at ~ 12:00 pm.

...we're just speculating here anyway. :-) In any case, there are various bits of evidence, of which the camera is one, and it will be relevant as to the time and also his demeanor and whether he left casually or not. Of course, for sociopaths, they can remain calm when a regular person would be sweating bullets. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't think the NYPD would arrest a man of his stature with flimsy evidence, and of course hauling him off an airplane and keeping him incarcerated without bail are real eyebrow-raisers as well.

Now whether he was set up? Stranger things have happened, that's for sure, especially when you are talking about the high level political world. But if I were a betting person, I'd bet that in this case, where there's smoke there's fire. Especially with the two French women who have now come forward. He sounds like a serial offender.

But I readily admit we don't know and it could be a setup. That's why we have trials. He'll get his day in court.

We have to wait and see whose DNA and blood that is.

"Law enforcement sources told FoxNews.com that blood found on bed sheets in the luxury suite in Manhattan’s Sofitel Hotel, where Strauss-Kahn stayed Friday night, could support the sexual assault claim of the alleged victim."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/16/imf-chief-held-without-bail/#ixzz1MZjuGiwX


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/16/imf-chief-held-without-bail/#ixzz1MZhbl4u8

someone else in places he had been. There are other ways she could have contact with his DNA. And there might be reasons other than a sexual attack that his DNA could be found on her.

I would not say that her story is completely unbelievable. It could be true, but it is a bit difficult to believe. If her DNA is on him or if he has scratches or bruises in specific areas of his body, then her story would be more credible.

To be fair, there are very good reasons someone might have wanted to frame him. And it is a tremendously stupid and self-destructive act for someone in his position.

He may very well have done it. There is a possibility he didn't.

I don't hear anyone excusing anything. I hear people saying we don't know what happened, and that is the truth.

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I doubt that homeless people are just able to sneak in and out of that hotel.

blow job, then chased her down the hall naked and trapped her in some enclosed space -- a sequence of events i would imagine would take *at least* 15 minutes...that gives him maybe 13 minutes to dress & get down to the desk.

assuming he was already packed & just decided to force someone to give him a quick blow job ('rape') before meeting his daughter for lunch.

them to deliver it to him. Upon which hotel told police where he was.

...then why call the hotel and ask them to retrieve it? That doesn't seem likely to me.

there have been multiple reports with contradictory information.

currently we're engaged in sorting the wheat from the chaff.

:hi:

You probably already know French media pundits are speculating on a setup.

But in spite of the seriousness, this just cracked me up (my bold):

doesnt sound like they are too set on the time....

i will wait on this.

no, it doesn't sound like they know what time the attack was.

which doesn't seem right, since she supposedly went & told immediately afterwards...

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110516/midtown/head-of-imf-ordered-held-without-bail-amid-sex-attack-charges

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/judge-denies-bail-to-imf-chief-in-sexual-assault-case-106200
John Eligon, Mosi Secret, The New York Times, Updated: May 16, 2011 22:31 IST
The law enforcement official said that the police were called to the hotel about 1:30 on Saturday, but that when they arrived, Mr. Strauss-Kahn had already checked out. At some point, Mr. Strauss-Kahn called the hotel and said that his cellphone was missing. Detectives then coached hotel employees to tell him, falsely, that they had the telephone. According to the law enforcement official, Mr. Strauss-Kahn told them he was at Kennedy Airport about to get on a plane.



Also, note the added details about the cellphone. Didn't 1st reports indicate he left in such a hurry, he left his cellphone at the hotel? He clearly left it somewhere, given that he called the hotel about it, but wouldn't police have it at that point if he had left it there?

& was trying to (as other reports have implied) beat a guilty retreat out of the country -- would you call about a cell phone?

i wouldn't.

and many of these should be trackable.

Video security in the hotel
Checkout time (verification of credit card)
Lunch (possible verification of credit card)
Driver pickup


On the timeline, did he eat lunch and return to the hotel? Or go from there to airport?
Did the driver pick him up at the hotel?

Speaking of timeline, interesting that a UMP supporter apparently reported this on twitter before media did.

I am not sure if he had to actually do anything to check out.
But presumably there are cameras in the lobby to verify when he left.

upscale hotels, not nearly as upscale as what he stayed at.

Still, the other items should show a timeline

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/16/501364/main20063268.shtml
The newspaper Le Monde, citing people close to Strauss-Kahn, said he had reserved the $3,000-a-night suite for one night during a quick trip to have lunch with his daughter, who is studying in New York. It was not immediately clear who paid for Strauss-Kahn's personal travel but he and his wife, an heiress to a renowned art dealer, have extensive personal wealth. IMF sources told CNBC that the hotel expenses were exaggerated and were actually $525, which Strauss-Kahn paid personally.


I've seen differing accounts, some stating he was upgraded because the higher priced room was empty, some speculating he received a discount.

The $3,000 price is still dominating reports, though.

who knows?

we sure don't, and even if we called the hotel they wouldn't tell us.

we're completely dependent on what we read in the paper.

or it could be part of the pattern of focusing on the Porsche, the suits and now the suite price.

Reminds me of all the focus on Gore's large house.

He seems to have quite the resume.

said he was on the scene or something similar.

then a second report by someone picking up the first twitter post -- & yeah, there was something questionable about the second reporter, but i don't remember the details.

what about arnaud dassier? is he a sarkhozy guy?

Most reports say he got the info from a friend at the hotel. The NYT says it came from a friend of a friend of a friend.
That's Jonathan Pinet.

The retweet was from Arnaud Dassier. He ran Sarkozy's internet campaign in 2007 and is supposedly behind the the recent story about the Porsche.

Here's a google translation about the Porsche part:
In fact, it took a nothing for it becomes a "case": a photograph, released in May 3, Le Parisien , shows the couple Strauss-Kahn, who was in Paris on April 28, when the snapshot before a car from Porsche. A blogger rather directed to the right, Emery Doligé, takes the shot on Twitter . Arnaud Dassier, "communicating" and linchpin of the campaign web Nicolas Sarkozy in 2007, follows. The two men are "up" information on the microblogging network throughout the day. The next day the reporter Hervé Gattegno Point in fact a chronicle on RTL . The case is launched.


Here's the original link:
http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2011/05/15/comment-l-avenir-de-dsk-s-est-soudain-assombri_1522356_823448.html


From NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/17/world/europe/17france.html
Another question raised was about the timing of the flood of Twitter posts around the scandal, with the first one reportedly sent by a French student who is a member of President Nicolas Sarkozy’s center-right party.

It was at 4:59 p.m. New York time that J_Pinet posted this message on Twitter: “A friend in the United States just told me that DSK was arrested by police in a hotel an hour ago.”

Twenty-four minutes later, a post by Arnaud Dassier, who ran Mr. Sarkozy’s online election campaign in 2007, spread the news further, apparently before any New York newspaper. Mr. Dassier is a shareholder in the Web site Atlantico.fr, which Mr. Strauss-Kahn’s allies accused this month of disseminating photographs of him and his wife getting into a Porsche in a bid to tarnish his reputation with common voters.

Besides, if he is guilty, he likely thinks he is somewhat above the law and doesn't really think he will ever be caught or he might have wrongly believed that the police could not remove him from the plane.

Not 1 pm.

"SATURDAY ABOUT NOON EDT (1600 GMT) - A 32-year-old maid entered Strauss-Kahn's suite, room 2806, which she apparently thought was unoccupied."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/17/strausskahn-timeline-idUSN1628497620110517

Paul Browne, NYPD spokesman: “”we said initially that was around 1PM, in fact it was closer to noon.”


it seems to have changed after reports that dsk had turned in his keys before 1.

there are also media reports that the attack happened around 1:30.

i don't know why it's so hard to pin down the time, since reportedly she sought assistance shortly after it happened.

the time would be in the police report.

what's so hard?

Paul Browne, NYPD spokesman: “”we said initially that was around 1PM, in fact it was closer to noon.”

but the document you posted isn't a "police report". the police report is written at the time the police come to the scene.

what you posted is a criminal court filing.

and you will get the answers. but to back this man up and the expense of excusing a pig

floors me

i am off to bed

testimony. It is useless to try to make everything add up at this point. People don't note the time and write it down when something is going down. There will be plenty of opportunity to establish the correct timelines after a proper investigation.

or are supposed to.

they also ask questions & note the approximate time the incident is supposed to have happened.

& since the woman reportedly ran to her coworkers, then called police, the time when they arrived would have been shortly after the alleged attack.

the police report is part of the "proper investigation". a critical piece, in fact.

So trying to establish timelines at this point are kind of meaningless imo. And police spokes people sometimes deliberately lie about details in order to smoke out a suspect and get them to make a false alibi claim.

if someone is actually involved in the crime he knows the time frame in which it took place.

when he is arrested on the same day, especially.

wrong and try to take advantage of that by constructing the alibi accordingly.

dressed as a maid and mistaken the chambermaid for the whore.

equally plausible.

or maybe a "friend" called and said he was sending a surprise.

lots of possibilities!

then casually meet his young daughter for lunch?

You got to be kidding me. That does not sound believable.

It may be true, but you would have to bring in some solid facts to convince me.

This story has not rung true from the get-go.

A 62-year old nude man chases a fully dressed, 32-year-old hotel maid down a hall and into a room and then forces her to have some form of sex which the press is too prudish to explicitly identify?

or buying a blow job, for that matter.

i too find it hard to believe he was suddenly seized by the desire to rape on the day he was scheduled to leave the us, in-between showering, check-out, & meeting his daughter.

anyone. After all they could just pay for it.

who has to pay for it.

the great seducer, the ladys man.... an ugly old fart that felt he was privileged and deserving adn hell....

any number of women would want to have the pleasure of giving him a bj

you know

argue the case ect... dont believe it. but that is just creepy

for free, for money.

it's simply a fact.

and he's not particularly ugly, imo.



this is ugly:



but andrea mitchell was willing to blow him. he's rich & powerful.

they will do whatever he wants

wow

who dated such men.

saggy? i don't see much, & so what?

fat?

i don't think so.

fact is, there are many, many, many cases of younger women who had sexual relations with men in their 60s. for love, for money, for sexual attraction, for closeness to power, because they were drunk, whatever.

we both know it. i can give you a list as long as my arm.

so i have no fucking idea why you're arguing the point.

ah ha

what a fuckin joke.

ya

sags and bags baby.

and ugly old fart thinking he is entitled

young wnating old? money, baby

You must be awfully insecure about your own aesthetics considering how often it happens. It's fairly disgusting. Like your "sags and bags" don't make others nauseous?

What is your point exactly?

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A person who rapes is getting something he cannot get from sex, paid for or otherwise. It is a pathological and not something that can be explained in the context of consensual sex.

how many rapists start in their 60s?

Seems to me you are doing a lot of armchair analysis yourself.

Rich men in their sixties don't rape......that is a pretty big leap, imo.

yes, if he's a rapist, it's likely *not* the first time.

and?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=1116248&mesg_id=1116877


i have no clue why you think it needs explaining. and i'm not going to get into some stupid discussion about it with someone who has no interest in the answer, either.

if he did rape this woman, he's probably done it before and gotten away with it. Hence the totally gobsmacking way in which this was done this time.

In fact that was the first thing I found odd when I began to read the reports on this case.

This Strauss-Kahn (hope I have his name right) has a reputation as a seducer. And his photo suggests that he is a person who wants to be admired and adored for more than just his ability to be brutal.

In my experience (which is lengthy but far from universal, and mostly based on observation from afar, I admit), men who like to seduce enjoy the interaction of conquering a woman through ruse and charm. Usually, they learn fairly young to at least have a certain air of shyness and to have timing in chatting up and persuading the ladies. To seduce you must wait and then move at the right time.

On the other hand, rapists and serial harassers have a certain meanness in their interactions with women. They seek the thrill of feeling extremely dominant, of overpowering the woman physically. The mental, psychological, seductive game of it is not so gratifying to them.

I suppose it would be possible for a man to have two sides on this, but it would not be extremely common.

This guy looks like a serial seducer, very conscious of being attractive.

He may have chased the woman down a hall, and he may have had physical contact with her, but it may have been for a very different reason. What if he caught her going through his things? There could be a lot of explanations.

I would not expect a French man to kiss a maid in a hotel as a greeting or goodbye. But the French are very free with hugs and this strange series of kisses you get on each side of your face. I finally asked one of my dear friends who was French to please just stop giving me that treatment. She understood that too much of that made me uncomfortable. There was at least one person who did not feel offended. I am a hugger and a naturally affectionate person, but the French can really overdo it. I don't think that is what happened, but you never know.

And maybe her story is absolutely true. It just doesn't seem believable to me.

didn't claim he tried to seduce her through ruse and charm.

"Law enforcement sources told FoxNews.com that blood found on bed sheets in the luxury suite in Manhattan’s Sofitel Hotel, where Strauss-Kahn stayed Friday night, could support the sexual assault claim of the alleged victim."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/16/imf-chief-held-without-bail/#ixzz1MZhbl4u8


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/16/imf-chief-held-without-bail/?test=latestnews

Not your link - just this whole thing

If any of these accounts are true, to any extent, what did he think would happen when she left? She'd just go clean another rooom while he went on about his business? Very weird.

attack her years ago. She never went to the police to report it.
So presumably he could have expected that this woman would not report it.

and he committed adultery too.

villain.

And while she did not report it to the police, she did tell that story years ago, so it's not like she just came out with it now.

it & allow the police to come & take evidence, it remains a story.

people tell stories all the time.

if there are a lot of stories, you begin to suspect they're true.

if there aren't, you tend to doubt.

rapists tend to make a habit of it.

fyi, this is what the court filing says dsk is alleged to have done:

1. prevented maid from leaving
2. grabbed her breasts
3. tried to pull down her panty hose (unsuccessfully)
4. forcibly grabbed her genital area (apparently through pantyhose)
5. forcibly made contact with his penis & maid's mouth twice

He is not being charged with rape.

Charges =

criminal sexual act (1st degree)
attempted rape (1st & 3rd)
sexual abuse (1st & 3rd)
forcible touching

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/05/16/nyregion/20110516-Strauss-Kahn-complaint.html?ref=nyregion

so whatever blood was or wasn't on the bed, it wasn't blood from forced vaginal or anal intercourse.

didn't happen. In case you don't know, a lot of women do not report.
And her mother witnessed her daughter after the alleged attack and did not want the daughter to file a police report, because it could affect her career.

"Mansouret said she arrived about an hour and a half later to find her daughter still locked in the car and looking "roughed up." The heel of one shoe was broken, Mansouret recalled to CNN."
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/05/16/france.imf.2002.allegation/index.html?hpt=T1

the point is, which you seem determined to avoid dealing with, she didn't go to the police at the time, no hard evidence was collected, so now it will eternally remain in the realm of "he said, she said".

sorry, if she didn't talk about it at the time out of "fear for her career," i'm not interested today. because there's no proof except her say-so.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/journalist-tristane-banon-makes-further-sexual-assault-allegation-against-dominique-strausskahn-2284995.html

Her mother talked her out of pressing charges. This is an age old story and it rings very true for me. For reasons of family and friendship a victimized young woman is persuaded to keep quiet.

Unfortunately for DSK her testimony will likely be admissible in court (unless his lawyers get really lucky) and she appears to be a very credible witness who will likely convince a jury that DSK is capable of sexually assaulting women. That will go a long way toward removing "reasonable doubt."

His lawyers better figure out a way to keep this from going to trial or he is going to be spending most of the rest of his life in prison.

evil crazy rapist overcome with the desire to rape & unable to control himself.

but for some reason, though he tried, he was unable to rape vaginally or anally & had to satisfy himself with "touching" & forcing a blow job.

per the court document.

nah, doesn't make sense.

Every account so far has a vague 'eventually she managed to escape' thing

Did she knock him out? Shoot him? Say "LOOK! Over there!" and run ??

weird

1. restrained her from leaving
2. grabbed her breasts
3. *tried* to pull down her pantyhouse
4. forcibly grabbed her genital area
5. forcibly touched his penis to her mouth *twice.*

the end.

there is no rape charge. apparently there wasn't even a blow job, penis never *entered* mouth.

"attempted rape"

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/05/16/nyregion/20110516-Strauss-Kahn-complaint.html?ref=nyregion

too weird. maybe he phoned for a hooker & mistook the maid for same.

who knows.

but jeez it sounds unlikely to me.

:shrug:

I have no conclusions. Wish the media reports weren't so vague about her escape. Lots of details coming out alleging specifics around the assault itself, but nothing about how she got away.

May 16 2011, 6:47 PM ET

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/05/the-dominique-strauss-kahn-case-follow-the-evidence-not-immunity-rules/238957/

If you are inclined to follow the startling sex assault case against International Monetary Fund chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, my humble advice to you is to focus more on the evidence and less on the complex issue of immunity rules as they relate to quasi-governmental officials. It's obviously very early on in this case, and I reserve the right to be wrong, but my gut tells me that Strauss-Kahn's legal team -- which includes the ubiquitous Benjamin Brafman -- either won't assert an immunity defense or won't prevail with it in American courts even if they do.

On the other hand, it is deeply significant that Strauss-Kahn underwent Sunday what his lawyers called "a scientific forensic examination" of his body even as prosecutors were moving for a court order for a search warrant that would allow them to check out his clothes. ABC News called Sunday's testing "a forensic imaging exam" but it doesn't really matter what you call it. In a he-said/she-said rape case, without any obvious eyewitnesses, this is the stuff that typically determines the outcome. In other words, with the defendant already "examined" in this fashion, the case (here's the complaint) may already be over but for all the shouting.

Ah, the shouting. Try not to listen to too much of it. Or at least try to keep an open mind about what you are hearing. Right now, only 48 hours or so into this burgeoning international scandal, the people who know what is going on generally are not talking. And the people who are talking generally don't know what is going on. The misinformation and disinformation that emanates from these high-profile cases in the first few days is harder to spot than the eternal perp walk we've already all seen. But it's no less present and certainly no less cynical.

As People of the State of New York v. Strauss-Kahn rolls on, then, there are six things I'll be looking for over the next few days and weeks.

*more at link above*

from one of the linked articles

http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/World/Story/A1Story20110517-279221.html


(Above: The door of room number 2806 of the Sofitel hotel in New York, where IMF head Dominique Strauss-Kahn was staying.)

NEW YORK - It was noon in New York on a lazy spring Saturday. But behind the closed doors of luxury hotel suite, a chambermaid was allegedly being brutally attacked in a horrific ordeal that would shock the world.

Her ordeal may well spell the end of the stellar career of veteran French politician Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the head of the International Monetary Fund who now faces up to 25 years behind bars if convicted. He denies the allegations.

During several long, terrifying minutes, the 32-year-old said she was grappled and groped, had her breasts and intimate parts fondled, her panties ripped, and was forced to endure as her attacker tried to push his genitals into her mouth.

Shocked and in terror, she finally escaped and ran panicked from the $3,000-a-night suite 2086 of the Sofitel in midtown Manhattan, telling staff and friends that she had been indecently mauled by the man inside in a degrading and frightening assault.

*more explicit details at link above*

1) forcibly restrained her from leaving (closed the door)
2) grabbed breast
3) grabbed genital area
4) tried (unsuccessfully) to pull down pantyhose
5) touched penis to mouth *twice*

the end.

charge: attempted rape. sexual abuse. "touching"

http://gawker.com/5802184/the-latest-rapey-dominique-strauss+kahn-news

<snip>

Here's the very latest morning updates on Strauss-Kahn, a.k.a. "the great seducer."

He was positively ID'd in a police lineup. Whoops.

Strauss-Kahn, who's pleading innocent, "willingly consented to a scientific forensic examination" last night, according to his lawyer. That could presumably turn up any physical evidence of the crime on his body.

Though Strauss-Kahn is undeniably a smart man, he doesn't come off as a master criminal. The WSJ says that police caught him after he called his hotel to ask if he'd left his cell phone there—and hotel security, lying, said yes, and asked him where he was so they could return it. They sent the police instead.

<snip>

the stuff he forgot while he was raping!

raping the hotel's own staff!!!

thinks he is above being called on it.

fits perfectly

well...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/17/strausskahn-timeline-idUSN1628497620110517

<snip>

SATURDAY ABOUT NOON EDT (1600 GMT) - A 32-year-old maid entered Strauss-Kahn's suite, room 2806, which she apparently thought was unoccupied.

Following routine procedure, the maid announced herself when she entered the suite, and left the front door to the suite unlocked and ajar, the law enforcement source said. She entered the living room and did not see anyone. Then she opened the door to the bedroom, where she saw Strauss-Kahn naked. She apologized and said she would come back later, and started to leave the room.

Strauss-Kahn allegedly ran after the woman and, according to the criminal complaint filed by prosecutors, shut the door of his hotel room, preventing her from leaving. He grabbed the victim's chest without consent, attempted to remove her pantyhose, and forcibly grabbed her vaginal area. His penis made contact with the victim's mouth twice through the use of force, prosecutors said.

The woman fled and reported the incident to her supervisor, who called police. Strauss-Kahn left the hotel, leaving behind his mobile phone.

*more at link above*

This story gets curioser and curioser.

Fox News reported that as is hotel protocol, she had knocked three times on the door of the 28th floor suite and identified herself as "housekeeping" before entering to take away trays and left-over condiments

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jyQ9cIA8Dlljnh7BvrlWLqjSh1xw?docId=CNG.b8e248e01f0016c2b08efefe5b618571.ec1

Faux News, so....

sitting naked. Who knows what he was doing in there?

2) he was hiding (somewhere, naked), & sprang upon her.

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protect at all cost

fuck the woman abused

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she wanted it, dressed as a maid and all, the little whore was asking for it.

there goes your buddies alibi, along the wayside, in no time at all.

as are most of the reports save for the court filing.

you really don't get anything.

but continue your fantasies of ripped off panties & my undying love for my fellow socialist dominique strauss kahn.

lol.

and allowing a man with history of this shit, and the jokes at the expense of the victim (he is nto the victim, btw regardless of france media creating him as such) has a higher power.

i dont get it

i do not get it at all

i dont want to get that

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Bernard Dalle, a magazine editor, complained that Strauss-Kahn was treated like "Al Capone in manacles" by a country where "all that is sexual goes to their heads."

Dalle said he believed the politician should be punished if found guilty.

"But we can't imagine it is true. It smells like machinations, it smells like a plot," he said. Dalle wasn't alone among conspiracy theorists who wondered if Strauss-Kahn was the victim of a right-wing plot.

Jonathan Pinet, an activist in Sarkozy's Union for a Popular Movement party, was the first to post a Twitter message about the arrest, even before it happened, according to the Le Post website. Pinet said he heard the news from a contact working at the hotel.


http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Strauss+Kahn+refused+bail+judge/4794082/story.html

Facing the fact that we have here two conspicuous similar cases makes me thoughtful .. perhaps DSK's lawyers should organize a conference call with their colleagues who are actually defending Julian Assange ..

oh, well, fuck the alibi, she was asking for it.

to have a fat, naked 62 year old guy chase you down a hallway, grab you, and try to force you to perform oral sex?

so i am told

no rape necessary. no force. doesnt even need to pay. we womne really want to suck on his dick. i guess ALL us women want it. really

i heard it again this morning listening to

npr, lol

act, but rather attempt at Oral Sex and forceful grabbing.

Might have been an offensive, crazy attempt that Strauss-Khan did not think was taken seriously, but that the maid obviously found monstrous and damaging.

an anonymous source said that. it is placed near an uncontextualized statement the lawyer made at the arraignment so that the reader conflates the two in his mind.

The question is will the alibi check out.

The Strauss-Kahn Defense: It Was Consensual


http://www.businessinsider.com/dsk-alibi-2011-5?utm_source=twbutton&utm_medium=social&utm_term=&utm_content=&utm_campaign=bi