We laugh about May 21, 2011, but we shouldn't.

originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:02 PM
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We laugh about May 21, 2011, but we shouldn't.

What happens to these people when they find out he was a fraud?

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slackmaster

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Wed May-18-11 02:03 PM
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1. I'm hoping for a good old-fashioned drawing and quartering

Or the four horses thing.

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meegbear

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Wed May-18-11 02:03 PM
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2. They get rightfully laughed it

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:04 PM
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3. You are right, if one is to take ANY religious belief seriously, then one must take them ALL

equally as serious, no?

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damntexdem

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Wed May-18-11 02:15 PM
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19. And since atheism, or my agnosticism, is a religious belief ...

then ALL of them includes any belief whatsoever involving religion, gods, and so on.

My, what a lot to have to take seriously. Well, here goes: LOL.

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:17 PM
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24. How can having no religious beliefs be a religious belief?

:rofl:

A religious spectrum statement? Yes.
A belief? No. That is, by its very definition, what atheism is about.

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anneboleyn

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Wed May-18-11 02:25 PM
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35. Because it involves a philosophical argument concerning metaphysics.

This is basic philosophy, an atheist is making a claim that denies metaphysics (in philosophy, the atheist is still making a metaphysical claim). An agnostic on the other hand does not fall into this as the agnostic merely claims that one can't have certain knowledge of metaphysics.

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:29 PM
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38. As someone else said: bald is not a color of hair.

EOM.

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Goblinmonger

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Wed May-18-11 03:09 PM
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62. And not collecting stamps is a hobby. n/t

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pipi_k

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Wed May-18-11 03:39 PM
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73. Not for me...

I'm not educated enough to argue metaphysics as a reason for no existence of God, so my personal argument for being an Atheist is, "Because I don't believe in God, so get the hell out of my face".

:7

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:19 PM
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28. Sorry, atheisim is a LACK of belief, not a religion.

But you can tell yourself that if you want, makes no difference to me, since I DO NOT BELIEVE in a god.

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DearAbby

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Wed May-18-11 02:21 PM
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32. And Baldness is a hair color.

:smacksfacewithpalmsmiley:

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hootinholler

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Wed May-18-11 02:36 PM
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44. What a beautiful analogy!

Perfect!

Just for you:

-Hoot

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Wait Wut

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Wed May-18-11 03:04 PM
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57. Where the hell were you when I was being attacked...

...by an Atheist with attitude that yelled at me because I said that Atheism should be recognized as a religion?

Damnit. Could have use a little back up, y'know. :eyes:

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Lone_Star_Dem

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Wed May-18-11 02:04 PM
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4. They set a new date...again

If I recall correctly this is his second shot. The first one was sometime in the early '90's I believe.

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Tesha

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Wed May-18-11 02:07 PM
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7. There have been far more dates than just two for the "End of Days".

So far, none of them have panned out.

Tesha

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Fuzz

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Wed May-18-11 02:11 PM
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13. Yeah, but this particular dude's second shot. Think his name is Camping.

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Lone_Star_Dem

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Wed May-18-11 02:12 PM
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14. I'm referring specifically to Harold Camping's "predictions."

This is his second shot at predicting the day of the mythical rapture. The first one was sometime around 1994. Yet he still has people who once again believe he knows some magical secret and all their troubles will be over come Saturday. Amazing.

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damntexdem

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Wed May-18-11 02:17 PM
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22. Well, at least not that anyone remembers.

;-)

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FSogol

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Wed May-18-11 02:04 PM
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5. They'll wise up and be less gullible next time? --- Just kidding. They'll start assigning

a new date for the next End of Days.

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damntexdem

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Wed May-18-11 02:18 PM
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26. I tell ya -- it was their prayers that averted it.

;-)

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Arugula Latte

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Wed May-18-11 03:37 PM
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72. Probably so. But the thing about that is don't these holy rollers WANT the Rapture?

Why would they pray to avert JC comin' back and sucking 'em up into the upper atmosphere with him?

That's where their otherwise watertight logic falls apart. :rofl:

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Tesha

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Wed May-18-11 04:24 PM
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79. (Secretly, they're afraid they won't be one of the folks going.)

Until the day arrives, they can bullshit themselves
into believing that they will be among the elect.
But once it actually happens and they're still here,
there won't be any way to deny it, even to themselves,
that they suck.

Tesha

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Tesha

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Wed May-18-11 02:05 PM
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6. They'll find another excuse to keep believing whoever's telling them fairy tales.

The religiously-credulous are never discouraged to the
point that they stop believing in their invisible friend.

Tesha

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LiberalAndProud

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Wed May-18-11 02:07 PM
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8. They will look for another date and a new snakeoil salesman.

Edited on Wed May-18-11 02:07 PM by LiberalAndProud

They will hold onto their faith in the face of all evidence to the contrary. Their disillusionment will never be realized, because they will cling to the illusion with their last dying breath. That is the nature of faith. More power to them, I guess.

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flakey_foont

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Wed May-18-11 02:08 PM
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9. they'll just come up with a new date

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Codeine

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Wed May-18-11 02:09 PM
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10. Stupidity should hurt.

I hope they find themselves ruined -- maybe it will teach them a fucking lesson.

But they'll actually be fine, because I do not think that any of them truly believe this shit for a second. They're all just trying to prove to each other how much they believe it. I'm quite sure the vast majority haven't liquidated their savings or anything like that.

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scheming daemons

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Wed May-18-11 02:10 PM
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11. Sorry... they need to be held up to ridicule

People that are that easily swayed to listen to a madmen NEED to become the objects of ridicule. It will hopefully shock them into not being such dimwits in the future.

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:10 PM
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12. Let me clarify: These people are fucking nuts...

let's hope there isn't something like Jonestown or Heavens Gate.

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:13 PM
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17. What makes "these people" any more "fucking nuts" than any other religious beleiver?

Seriously?

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:14 PM
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18. How many people typically stop all their doing to tell the world

it's going to end.

It's got to be upsetting for one's affairs, right?

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:20 PM
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31. SO one who believes that a man was literally resurrected from the dead is ok, but to believe

the world is going to end is "fucking nuts"?

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:22 PM
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33. No, let's get this right:

Jesus died on the cross, and was resurrected so that we might have delicious marshmallows peeps and chocolate bunnies.

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:47 PM
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46. Ok, fair enough.

But I hope you see the point I am trying to make, no?

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:49 PM
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50. Honestly, at this point, I think you can move on to producing a line segment.

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:51 PM
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52. Ok, thanks for that.

I guess.

:shrug:

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:52 PM
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53. I'm just having fun with you now.

:P

I do that sometimes.

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:54 PM
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54. Thats cool. I have a pretty good sense of humor.

No worries.

:fistbump:

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:55 PM
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55. Don't forget to bisect the line with your awesomeness!

:rofl:

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 03:01 PM
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56. Ok, now you have gone TOO far!

I am NOT bisectual!

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Arugula Latte

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Wed May-18-11 03:41 PM
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74. I heard you're bicoastal, though.

Don't deny it. You swing both ways geographically.

:P

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Warren DeMontague

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Wed May-18-11 02:33 PM
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43. No, I think that's fucking nuts, too.

As is the Galactic Emperor Xenu and Joseph Smith's magic disappearing gold tablets.

All nuts. But the topic of the thread is this particular strain of nutbaggery, and also nuttiness isn't a linearly measurable quality. A certain degree of nuttiness is implied not just in nutty beliefs but nutty beliefs that interfere with normal functioning in the world at large.

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:49 PM
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49. And you and I agree on all points you make.

Perhaps the difference between us (or maybe not at all) is just what is "interference with normal functioning in the world at large."

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Warren DeMontague

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Wed May-18-11 02:31 PM
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41. Because they've made a claim can be demonstratively proven wrong, and will be

soon.

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cleanhippie

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Wed May-18-11 02:50 PM
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51. Well, to be fair, they have made a claim that will PROBABLY be proven wrong.

And you what, I admire them more than a more "mainstream" believer, simply because they are willing to put their claims to the test, while no one else is.

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Warren DeMontague

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Wed May-18-11 03:29 PM
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69. Let's put it this way: I will take that bet, at whatever odds anyone wants to offer.

Fo Sho.

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Bake

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Wed May-18-11 02:13 PM
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15. It's a bit of a leap from "they were wrong" to "he was a fraud."

I don't ridicule their faith, but I ridicule their judgment in (a) picking a date, and (b) ignoring everything Jesus said about the subject (i.e., "no man knows the day or the hour") to pick a date.

It's a shame that more Christians aren't very Christ-like.

Bake

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:16 PM
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20. No, he's a fucking fraudster.

He's done this shit before, this isn't just a mistake, the man knows what he's up to.

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Bake

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Wed May-18-11 02:31 PM
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40. Oh. You are referring (I think) to the guy who picked the date, right?

In that case, I agree 1000000%.

I misunderstood your post which I responded to. I think.

Bake

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damntexdem

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Wed May-18-11 02:13 PM
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16. Oh no, chuckle, we shouldn't, hee hee, laugh about, haw haw, this.

Oh, what the hell: bwahahahahahaha!

Tell you what, I'll shed a crocodile tear or two.

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LiberalAndProud

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Wed May-18-11 02:19 PM
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29. : )

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sufrommich

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Wed May-18-11 02:16 PM
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21. The same thing that happened the last 46 times it proved to be

untrue. Nothing. Ignorance marches on.

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G_j

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Wed May-18-11 02:17 PM
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23. a very blue Monday? nt

Edited on Wed May-18-11 02:24 PM by G_j

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kentuck

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Wed May-18-11 02:18 PM
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25. Who was a fraud?

Jesus or the guy that made the prediction?

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:18 PM
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27. Could be both, really.

But I was talking about Camping.

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lunatica

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Wed May-18-11 02:20 PM
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30. They lose a little faith which isn't necessarily a bad thing

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sinkingfeeling

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Wed May-18-11 02:24 PM
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34. Same thing as when they found out that Robert Tilton, Ted Haggard, and Jim Bakker were all frauds.

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originalpckelly

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Wed May-18-11 02:27 PM
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37. Yeah, but how many of them quit their jobs expecting to be raptured.

For these family radio folks, this has become their life. They have been consumed with it.

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RKP5637

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Wed May-18-11 02:27 PM
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36. God works in mysterious ways. That was the line I used to get when I

asked questions in my youth about religious BS. And then was told I would be banned from Sunday School if I persisted in asking questions. What a bunch of BS I thought as a very little kid. Yours is not to question but to believe.

I have no doubt the rationalizations will run deep.

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snooper2

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Wed May-18-11 02:30 PM
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39. maybe they go jump off a high cliff?

:shrug:

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Ichingcarpenter

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Wed May-18-11 02:40 PM
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45. Maybe like this one on Mars?

Its only 700 meters tall

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liberal N proud

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Wed May-18-11 02:32 PM
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42. I was wondering what the churches have planned for Sunday

May 21 is Saturday so, all the people that would go to church will be gone and therefore no need to have services on Sunday. RIGHT?

But if churches have something planned, then they didn't really believe it anyway.

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Adsos Letter

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Wed May-18-11 02:48 PM
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47. One name, three words: William.Miller. and The.Great.Disappointment. Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Miller_(preacher)

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REP

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Wed May-18-11 03:05 PM
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58. Oooh, beat me to it!

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NeedleCast

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Wed May-18-11 02:48 PM
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48. I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for them

And honestly, I think we absolutely should be laughing at them.

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ladywnch

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Wed May-18-11 03:06 PM
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59. absolutely nothing. they'll simply declare they miscaluclated the date (again)

and pick some new date out of thin air and life will move on.

nothing to see here folks.

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Maru Kitteh

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Wed May-18-11 03:08 PM
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60. No, I'm pretty sure we should.

I don't care what happens to them.

(excluding the children, vulnerable elderly or cognitively impaired, in the legal sense)

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sarge43

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Wed May-18-11 03:09 PM
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61. Should we care?

Anyone who believes this older than dirt scam is hopeless.

If by he you mean Jesus, he would come like a thief in the night, not like Elvis to Las Vagas.

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appleannie1

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Wed May-18-11 03:19 PM
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63. He finds an excuse for the delay and they believe him.

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brooklynite

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Wed May-18-11 03:22 PM
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64. What happened the last time they found out he was a fraud...

...nothing.

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LAGC

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Wed May-18-11 03:22 PM
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65. Those damn poor fools.

Makes you wish there be a law against deceiving people like that... but unfortunately, you can't outlaw stupidity.

If anything, he should be charged with multiple counts of grand theft for costing all his followers their entire life savings.

FOR SHAME!

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RegieRocker

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Wed May-18-11 03:24 PM
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66. Same thing that happened to Bernie Madeoff (with your money)

investors?

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StarburstClock

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Wed May-18-11 03:27 PM
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67. Those people find another reason to delude themselves via the GOP

It's why the party exists, for the criminals and the gullible.

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nadinbrzezinski

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Wed May-18-11 03:27 PM
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68. Some places, since we have seen this before

http://www.gci.org/history/disappointment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Miller_(preacher)

http://galileo.stmarys-ca.edu/trs/zachflanagin-courses-apocalypse-millerites.htm

Most of them will move on with their lives after the grieving is over. A few will wait for the next date.

This guy... it's his second try at the brass ring. (Perhaps finally people will see him for the false prophet he is)

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cali

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Wed May-18-11 03:29 PM
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70. read about Millerism if you want to know.

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pipi_k

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Wed May-18-11 03:33 PM
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71. He tells them a bullshit story about "miscalculations"...

Edited on Wed May-18-11 03:44 PM by pipi_k

and then gives another date for the Rapture.

They believe him and plan for the next one.

PS...the sad part...I saw earlier on the news where someone doing a report on this said she had asked Believers what would happen if the Rapture didn't happen. She said they totally refused to admit that it would not. Many people had sold their homes...quit their jobs...left their families.

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BobbyBoring

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Wed May-18-11 03:44 PM
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75. In all fairness

With the type of math they use, it would be easy to be off by a couple hundred years.

You take the year God invented the earth 7,354 AD
Multiply by 10
Subtract the year Noah set sail 2,635 AD
Subtract 12 for the disciples
Divide by 11 because Judas wasn't much of a disciple was he?

I see where there's room for error

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pipi_k

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Wed May-18-11 03:48 PM
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78. OK so God invented the earth

in 7354 AD, but when did he apply for the Patent?

That's probably messing up the calculations too...

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Arugula Latte

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Wed May-18-11 07:15 PM
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80. What about the conversion from the Jewish calendar?

Also, you've got to factor in leap years and Daylight Savings Time.

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GoneOffShore

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Wed May-18-11 03:45 PM
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76. It'll go down the same way as this one -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3nRjlK3jfY

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JayceR

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Wed May-18-11 03:48 PM
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77. These people are ignorant even of their own ignorant beliefs

Edited on Wed May-18-11 03:50 PM by JayceR

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."
-Matthew 24:36, New International Version

Jesus Christ, that's one of the most oft-cited Bible quotes. Shouldn't that have been enough for these ignorant wackjobs, aside from the fact that he already got it wrong before?

Fool 'em once, shame on you, fool 'em twice, they're fucking gullible dipshits who deserve little sympathy.

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hatrack

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Wed May-18-11 07:16 PM
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81. Maybe they'll pull their collective head out of their ass?

:shrug:

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