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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 02:39 PM
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Morrissey compares the Queen to Muammar Gaddafi


"Morrissey has used the Queen's state visit to Ireland to launch a new attack on the monarchy, likening her position to that of Muammar Gaddafi. In an article for Irish magazine Hot Press, the singer wrote: "The very existence of the Queen and her now enormous family ... is entirely against any notion of democracy, and is against freedom of speech. For a broad historical view of what the Queen is and how she 'rules', examine Gaddafi or Mubarak, and see if you can spot any difference."'

Exactly.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 02:44 PM
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1. Well, she did order the execution of princess Di...
...so there are similarities.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:02 PM
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4. No she didn't
That was simply a Mercedes S Class commercial which went wrong. Mercedes had to settle for her wearing the steering wheel as a halo.

Doubtless the Queen ordered her to not do up her seat belt. Its engagement of the seat belt in an S Class which deploys the airbags which would've have saved her.

What a dummy.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:04 PM
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5. Wasn't it a mystery Mercedes that swiped her...or a BMW...
never located to this day?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:37 PM
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14. Was alleged to have been small white Seat
Edited on Wed May-18-11 03:38 PM by dipsydoodle
Think so anyway.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:27 PM
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10. oh for fuck's sake. what a stupid ass conspiracy theory that is.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:20 PM
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27. No she didn't.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 02:44 PM
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2. Well, she did order the execution of princess Di...
...so there are similarities.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 02:57 PM
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3. Not sure Her Majesty had anyone that disagreed with her tortured, murdered or disappeared...
...but other than that they are EXACTLY alike....:eyes:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:05 PM
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7. No, she left that to Blair and several prime ministers before him.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:28 PM
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11. she didn't leave it to anyone. She has no power whatsoever to do so.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:51 PM
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18. Sorry. I didn't know she was bound and gagged.
I'm well aware the the British monarchy no longer has any power to run the government. But, they do have the power of speech and allegedly are aware of and involved in politics. I'm of the opinion that if she, or Charles, had spoken out against torture and murder whether in Ireland, Iraq, Afghanistan and dozens of other places once controlled by the Empire it would have been influential.

Would it have changed the policies? Who knows? But, it would have embarrassed the hell out of the murderers and torturers and those that sent them.

Imagine, if you will, if Michelle Obama were to speak out against her husband's wars, and the repercussions from doing so.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:04 PM
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23. if you know it you should have phrased your comment better in the first place
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:11 PM
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30. I imagine that posterity will forgive me.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:05 PM
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6. Well, except that the Queen doesn't really "rule".
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:03 PM
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22. Exactly. British monarchs reign
they do not rule.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:06 PM
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8. So he's going to encourage what next--
bombings and killings?? Perhaps incendiary rhetoric is not the right path to independence.

PS. The queen has a much more tasteful wardrobe than Moammar and better manners too.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:11 PM
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9. Well, they are clearly both..
Edited on Wed May-18-11 03:12 PM by hlthe2b

Fashion Stylesetters.... ;)
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:32 PM
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12. Love me some Morrissey. I remember a bunch of people here saying how dare
Americans say anything about the monarchy. Well, he's a subject, let the man speak his mind. ;)

I'm not saying he's exactly right, he's just being consistent with his position over the years. 'The Queen is Dead'- Great, GREAT album.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:39 PM
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15. I think he's a prick
.
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:54 PM
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19. I do too, but I loves me some Morrissey.
;)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:15 PM
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24. most Brits disagree with him, you can say what you want
but it did come off as ignorant to make it seem like the Royal family was being forced on the Brits and making other stupid comments .

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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:37 PM
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13. Oh yeah, the Queen is vicious
The way she brutally slices those ribbons at museum openings and such. :eyes:
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:40 PM
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16. Interestingly enough I was considering listening to the Smiths Queen is Dead on vinyl this afternoon
...

now I may most certainly have to.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:41 PM
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17. Sorry but the Queen is part of a Constitutional monarchy.
She is more of a figurehead and parliament holds the power. My ancestor is responsible for this arrangement. Any comparisaons with absolute rulers is ridculous on its face.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 03:55 PM
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20. but yeah... Frank... other than that, it's a lot like Bastogne...

Frank Perconte: Hey, George.
George Luz: Yeah?
Frank Perconte: Kind of remind you of Bastogne?
George Luz: Yeah, now that you mention it. Except, of course, there's no snow, we got warm grub in our bellies, and the trees aren't fucking exploding from Kraut artillery, but yeah... Frank... other than that, it's a lot like Bastogne.
Frank Perconte: Right?
George Luz: Bull, smack him for me please?

George Luz: Thank you.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:02 PM
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21. Hardly, dumbass Morrissey.
Edited on Wed May-18-11 04:04 PM by hifiguy
Liz would be legally required to sign her own death warrant and walk up the scaffold if Parliament passed the measure through the proper procedures (and if the UK still had the death penalty). British Kings and Queens haven't had any meaningful power since the Glorious Revolution put William of Orange on the throne.

Monumental historical ignorance on Morrissey's part. :eyes:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:18 PM
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25. good music,stupid political comment
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:19 PM
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26. I'm not pro-monarchy but this is ridiculous
The Queen has no real power and does not go around torturing and bombing political opponents (or anyone if it comes to that).
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chowder66 Donating Member (597 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:25 PM
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28. Morrissey ...true story
He wanted a family of cats that I rescued. He never showed up. Bastard!

I luckily found homes for the kittens and still have the mom. :) I win!

Still love his music though.


See Morrissey....you're not perfect either. Hmmmmmppppphhhh.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:35 PM
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29. Good for Morissey.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:19 PM
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31. I was visiting relatives in County Down in 1981 when Bobby Sands died by hunger strike.
My relatives live in a rural and highly Catholic area and are Catholics (and were supporters of the IRA)

My great grandfather had come to California in 1870s leaving behind a wife and 6 children and a small store and farm.

My Irish consciousness was that my jewish wife fiddled in an Irish Band in the Irish Bars of SF and Berkeley and Ashkenas folk dance nights so I knew of the music. I wonder if my Dad even knew he was part Irish Catholic (as his mother was Scotch-Irish Protestant) and they practiced no religion and neither did my parents..

There was a general strike called which was neat because I was the first to come back since my grandfather and his two brothers left in 1887, leaving the three sisters behind ,and my 2nd and 3rd cousins had time to come from Belfast and so on to the farm. They were surprised that I was not Catholic. We stayed in the house where my grand father and great great grandfather were born and several other generations had lived. One 2nd cousin, Agatha, was an IRA widow. Businesses were closed because of the general strike and IRA supporters "tagged" the small town with paint and banners in the night. The 2nd night we went to a "closed" Irish Bar (owned and operated by a woman from NYC, USA) where a bunch of IRA supporters were hanging out.

That week there was almost no traffic but UK military check points and helicopters all over. We stayed close to the family farm and the rest of the family came to meet the American relative. Still, in one week we went through 4 checkpoints and once had a helicopter land and several young soldiers stop us.

We were scheduled to spend three nights in Dublin and then take a hydro-foil to England. However, that day was also the day of Bobby Sands funneral and there were crowds and funeral parades in each town along the route. Dublin was so crowed we could not get to the hotel or the rental car return so we parked the car and walked to the rental car place and got on the first flight out to London. The streets were empty in Northern Ireland excpt for a major check point at Dundalk at the border.

I read Uris's Trinity when I got home as was embarrassed to know so little about "The Troubles" especially as I had been active in Vietnam anti-war in SF/Berkeley and ended with a plus 300 lottery number in 1971.
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