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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:37 AM
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Depressed Republican Leaders Are Convinced Obama Will Easily Win Reelection
Republican leaders are now convinced that without a stronger candidate, President Obama will easily cruise to reelection in 2012.

A Politico story on Mitch Daniels today began with this sentence, “Top Republicans are increasingly convinced that President Barack Obama will be easily reelected if stronger GOP contenders do not emerge.”

I suspect that Republicans are begging Mitch Daniels to get in the race for no other reason than to at least give Mitt Romney a credible challenger. Daniels is as interesting and exciting as watching paint dry, but his candidacy would represent a serious upgrade to the current 2012 GOP field. The truth is that the dull Daniels won’t beat Obama, but at least he won’t embarrass the party.

Hurting the entire party is exactly what the GOP leadership is dreading with any of these current Republican candidates. Top Republicans are coming to the realization that the prospect of enticing a top tier candidate into the race is looking grim, so they are trying to find a candidate who can at least hold the base and not cost them anything more than the presidency.

None of the current candidates motivates the base, and Mitt Romney could actually depress Republican turnout if he wins the nomination. The only potential candidate who could fire up the base in a race against Obama is Sarah Palin, but she is reviled to such a degree outside of the GOP that her name atop the ticket would boost turnout among Democrats and Independents who despise her. Palin would be an unmitigated disaster for Republicans at all levels in every race.

http://www.politicususa.com/en/gop-obama-reelection


I do hope one of their more "colorful" candidates ends up winning the primary.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:38 AM
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1. "Palin would be an unmitigated disaster for Republicans at all levels in every race."
Run, Sarah, run!!!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:42 AM
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3. So would Bachmann, Palin might be dumb as dirt but Bachmann
has a first class ticket on the crazy train.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:45 AM
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Put 'em together and you got a winner!
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:19 AM
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12. wooohooo!
Luvs me some double batshit crazy ladies for the GOP!

:woohoo: :bounce: :woohoo:
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:43 AM
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4. Sarah would even lose to Dennis Kucinich!
"A new PPP survey found that she would lose a general election match up to Dennis Kucinich, 43%-36%."
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:41 AM
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2. It's pretty obvious. All of their candidates are worthless.
I don't think they have a prayer. Maybe they'll run Bachmann just to get rid of her. Wouldn't that be a hoot!
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yesphan Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:05 PM
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25. For my friends and realtives
that live in Minnesota, I can only hope.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:44 AM
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5. The price of selling out to the teabaggers in order to destroy Obama has come
Edited on Thu May-19-11 07:36 AM by lunatica
home to roost. Sleep with dogs and you'll wake up with flees. They went all out in distrupting the Democratic Town Halls two years ago and feeding and coddling and using the teabaggers. They bused them all over the place, gave them instructions on how to get their way through yelling and interrupting and now they pay the price. They thought they were being so clever.

Lots and lots of us saw this coming. It wasn't hard. Now they cower in fear and panic. Their karmic adjustment is in process.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:49 AM
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8. I think the teabaggers were the final nail in the coffin, but this
has been building since they jumped in bed with the religious right in the '80s. Since then they've been forced to turn up the crazy to keep their base.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-11 05:50 AM
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28. It's not a nail in the coffin, it's a bullet in the chamber.
These guys stole two elections, started a war on false pretenses, wrote a trillion dollars off the books, and created a financial crisis which wiped out the futures of millions of Americans.

With that in mind, what options are left for the Republicans to explore?

Whatever they can get away with. That's why a sociopath like Newt Gingrich is not going to leave this race, so that he can be waiting in the wings "just in case" he manages to make "something" happen.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:19 AM
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11. yep
Edited on Thu May-19-11 07:19 AM by marions ghost
:thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:51 PM
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24. Yup. nt
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AC_Mem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 02:13 PM
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26. Town Halls
I experienced them first hand at a health care town hall here in Memphis with Steve Cohen. It was terrible; I was just horrified that people actually behaved in such an ignorant manner.

I've mentioned this before but on the way in I noticed that the parking lot outside the venue was filled with cars with out of state license plates. I commented to my friend "are we in the right place?" Little did I know then....

My goodness did it bring out the ugly in people. On the other hand, it turned me into a strong volunteer for OFA and has brought allot of joy to my life to be able to contribute to positive change in whatever way I can.

Annette
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:45 AM
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6. It's the economy that will determine this.
If unemployment stays this high or we have a double-dip, Obama could lose to almost anyone.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:47 AM
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7. Of course, the dirty secret nobody in the media want to mention
is that behind closed doors, the GOP higher-ups want an Obama win as much as we do... They would just as soon make congress a roadblock for another four years while demonizing their 'bogeyman' which keeps the scared sheep and the CoC send in money by the truckload...
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 06:53 AM
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9. That's a risky move though. A bland GOP candidate depresses
their base in the general election, a crazy GOP candidate would boost democratic turnout.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:16 AM
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10. So far the field has been a who's-who of miscellaneous crackpots.
I don't see anyone that would defeat Obama.
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:26 AM
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13. my dumb dad wont get off the Jeb Bush!!! lol.... as if
jeb is hiding under his bed, and thinking of a way to change his name.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:40 AM
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14. Good!
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 07:54 AM
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15. awsome, but this does kinda sounds like a "raise the bar into the stratosphere" strategy
If you think your opponent it better than your guy, raise the bar for him into the stratosphere. Make it so the opponant can't possibly match the expectations and hype.

I think they are right that Obama matches up well against any of their potential candidates, so they come out and say there's no way our guys can beat Obama. This then gives them ammo down the road. If Obama's numbers start to tank or he's not doing so well against a particular candidate, then they get to say "what's wrong with Obama? He was supposed to win easily! Why can't he close the deal??"

The other part of this strategy is that it depresses OUR turnout. Saturate the media with the "Don't worry, Obama will win easily" meme and soon Dems start staying home thinking they don't need to vote.


This is great news, but that doesn't mean we stop going full steam ahead in our efforts to reelect Obama.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:01 AM
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16. Everything changed when Obama took out Osama..
The Republicans simply cannot deal with this. They want to cheer OBL is dead but they dont want to give Obama the credit... which is nearly an impossible thing to do. This is why they are trying using this absurb argument that Bush-era torture is the main reason we got him... and that argument is not going over very well with the general public... and they know it.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:10 AM
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17. A Palin/Bachman ticket would be awesome. Got to stop dreaming though.
Even Republicans wouldn't be that stupid. Would they?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:12 AM
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18. They will wind up "drafting" Rick Perry. He's waiting for them to
beg him to run and because he has such a huge ego, he will jump in.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:49 PM
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22. Please. please, please take him.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 08:25 AM
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19. That's What You Get When You Cater To The Lunatic Fringe
George Bush hurt the Republicans in a lot of ways, some of which may not even be felt for several more years. Oh sure, it probably felt great when he was riding on his "you're either with us or against us" conform-or-die bulldozer. The problem is, the Republicans pretty much all conformed, and then Bush led them straight off a cliff. Now there's no way back. If they change, they'll be labelled flip-floppers by their "base" of lunatics (and we all know that there's nothing worse in this world than flip-flopping), and if they stay the same, they'll get 100% of the wacko vote, but lose pretty much all of the 60% of Americans in the middle of the political spectrum.

And here's the kicker: since the Republican leadership has spent the last decade indoctrinating their young up-and-comers into wackoism, they've got no fresh, new stars on the horizon. Just the same old candidates spouting the same old horseshit that the American public realized was horseshit years ago. And all the cheerleading from Faux News and the right-wing radio screamers can't change that.

The only candidate they have right now who WON'T send most of America screaming for the exits is Romney, and he's a flake and a phony. If I were in the Republican Party leadership, I'd just write off 2012 and start looking to groom a more centrist, middle-friendly candidate to try to make a run in 2016.

The problem the Republicans will have in 2016 (I HOPE) is that they'll get steamrolled yet again by another young, strong Democrat, MY Senator and my favorite politician in Washington right now, Sherrod Brown. He hasn't made any indications that he's even thinking about running, but I would be so enthused by his candidacy, that I'd do everything in my power to help him get elected, including working for his campaign.
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hifiguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 09:32 AM
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20. If Mittens manages to win the nomination
(no sure thing) will the baggers and other louder members of the lunatic fringe demand that one of their own be put on the ticket? Bachmann? Man-on-Dog? Seems like that would be '08 all over again. Bore at the top and raving psycho in the second slot. A sure recipe for another Repig electoral disaster.

I suppose that Perry could jump in, but those "we're gonna secede" statements would be raw meat for the Obama ad writers. They'd beat him like a rented mule with the dumb shit he has been saying for the last two years.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:39 PM
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21. The Obama ad writers did not bother to use Todd Palin's
membership in a secessionist political group, or Sarah's own footsie-playing with them, which is actually on video.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 01:50 PM
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23. "Stronger GOP contenders"? Like who? They got nuthin'. nt
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-11 10:16 PM
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27. What Republicans need is a reality show.
Forget about a convention. Have Fox News, the official Propaganda network of the Republican Party, host a weekly reality show, lets call it 'Electin' the Republican Nominee'. The hook: 52 Republicans and/or Teabaggers with Presidential aspirations are put through a series of weekly QA sessions, given simple tasks to complete, and share their vision and thoughts for America's future. Every week, one gets voted off the ticket by the viewing audience. As the contestants get whittled down, the tasks become harder (offer up 1 idea for creating jobs that does not involve taxcuts) and test questions get harder to answer - for examples:

"You just lost your job, your up to your ass in college loan debts you co-signed for your unemployed kids, your mortgage is underwater, you have no savings and only $47.00 in your checking account. You think your frequent blackouts might be caused by a brain tumor - how are you going to find the #3500.00 needed to get the tests done?"

or

"A Wreckson Global supertanker has taken out the Statue of Liberty due to clear negligence of the vessel's Captain, who was shooting up heroin on the bridge at the time of the accident. As President, you get a call from the CEO who tells you, in no uncertain terms, that unless the USG makes good on the ship repairs - who OK'd putting that Statue in the middle of the shipping channel anyway?- he'll withhold all future campaign contributions to Republican politicians and release prior compromising photo's of you stuffing cash in your business suit pockets. Which of the following will you do? (1) Offer up an extra $10BB subsidy to cover the damages (2) Suggest increasing price of gas by $1.00/gallon as a temporary surcharge to cover damage repair (3) Do both and offer a prime time apology?

Could be a huge moneymaker....charge a $1 a vote....profit! Who cares who's left? You can have Trump crown the 'winner' - "your hired!".
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