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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 08:26 PM
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Listened to Coast To Coast last night....
Ian Punnett fills in on the weekends for George Noory and last night he did a show about the rapture or it not happening. He’s sardonic and sarcastic, but he’s also an ordained minister who talks a lot about social justice, helping the needy and so forth. You know, a guy who actually follows the teachings of Jesus rather than just looking for salvation and what’s in it for him and his…..

So this lady calls in from Plainview TX, and it was the saddest thing I ever heard. She was crying that she hadn’t been raptured and that she stood out in field all day waiting. She was saying she hadn’t paid any bills in weeks and now was worried how she would deal with it. She couldn’t believe the world had not ended because of all the hurricanes, earthquakes and tornadoes that had occurred in the last few years, and why hadn’t those things hadn’t hit West Texas. Ian and his guest (a therapist) tried to console her and encourage her to use this as a chance to reach out to other people and do good works……but this woman would not listen. It was all about her and why she hadn’t been “saved“. There was also some guy in the background (her husband I guess) yelling things from the peanut gallery. Eventually, she got sick of listening to the idea that wishing death on other people while she got taken from it all wasn’t really nice, and hung up.

Clearly, she’s a pathetic person……sad and not very smart. Yet she also sounded downright selfish. It was all about her, and screw everyone else. That’s what made me think that evangelical Christians are all about what they are going to get out of this, not following the words of Jesus because it’s simply the right thing by your fellow man….
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 08:31 PM
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1. A lot of these people seem to have decided it was going to be OK to sin big time leading up to this.
Like not paying bills, which is a form of theft.

And, heaven forbid, killing dogs and children :wtf:

Sheer craziness in so many cases.

I just don't understand the hypocrisy.

:shrug:
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 08:47 PM
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2. There are some people who get a real charge
when they think about how all the people they don't like are going to hell. I've known a few people like that and I found them extremely creepy. Oh, they may SAY something like "I hope they get saved someday," but you can tell they don't mean it. You can see their eyes just light up at the idea that someone who's pissed them off will suffer eternal torment. You get the impression that they hope they'll be able to watch.

I expect some of these rapture believers are pretty much the same.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 08:52 PM
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4. They are the same people who would cheerfully pay someone--
--to saw off their dominant hand if part of the deal was that someone they really hated got both hands sawn off.

For people like this, faith isn't a guide to ethical behavior, but just an excuse for their own sociopathology.
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Mariana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:22 PM
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6. Speaking of sawing off body parts...
That just reminded me of another creepy bunch. Whenever some atheist publicly proclaims their lack of belief or criticizes religion, there are some people who say something like, "I wish they'd try that in someplace like Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan! I'd like to see what happens then!" I've even seen that sentiment posted a few times here on DU. It's obvious, of course, exactly what it is they want to see, what it is they're fantasizing about when they say that.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 08:52 PM
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3. What's even sadder are the people who brainwashed people into believing the rapture was really going
happen.

They took advantage of people like this woman who for whatever reason desperately needs to believe in this crap.


It's all a cult.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 09:08 PM
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5. Lazy People...want salvation cheap.....use hubristic mode...deception & bandaids
Its like cuttin in line at the flick
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Tuvok Obama Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-22-11 10:56 PM
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7. The "instant fix" is why so many addicts turn to Jesus in their quest to find freedom from addiction
Edited on Sun May-22-11 11:36 PM by Tuvok Obama
Fundamentalist Christianity of the born-again/rapture stripe is a uniquely American ideology, and to the extent it exists in other countries, it has largely been exported from here. This is the origin of today's Christian fundamentalism:

Between 1909 and 1915 the brothers Milton and Lyman Stewart, whose wealth came from oil, underwrote The Fundamentals, a series of twelve paperback books. The preface to the volumes explained their purpose: “In 1909 God moved two Christian laymen to set aside a large sum of money <$300,000> for issuing twelve volumes that would set forth the fundamentals of the Christian faith, and which were to be sent free to ministers of the gospel, missionaries, Sunday school superintendents, and others engaged in aggressive Christian work throughout the English-speaking world.” Three million copies were distributed. Each volume contained seven or eight essays. Aside from studies of strictly doctrinal matters, there were attacks on modern biblical criticism, critiques of scientific theories, personal testimonies, commentaries on missionary work and evangelization, and accounts of heresies. The last category included essays on “Catholicism: Is It Christian?” and “Rome, the Antagonist of the Nation”.

There were sixty-four contributors, including scholars such as C.I. Scofield, compiler of the Scofield Reference Bible; “W. J. Eerdman and his son, Charles; H. C. G. Motile, Anglican bishop of Durham; James M. Gray, dean of the Moody Bible Institute; and Warfield himself. They included Presbyterian ministers, Methodist evangelists, editors of religious periodicals, professors, even an Egyptologist. As Edward Dobson, an associate pastor at Jerry Falwell’s Thomas Road Baptist Church, put it, “They were certainly not anti-intellectual, snakehandling, cultic, obscurantist fanatics.”

The fundamentals identified in the series have been tallied variously, some listing as many as fourteen points. Most commentators agree on at least these five: (1) the inspiration and infallibility of Scripture; (2) the deity of Christ, including his Virgin Birth; (3) tire substitutionary atonement of his death; (4) his literal resurrection from the dead; and (5) his literal return in the Second Coming.

Keating, Karl (1988). Catholicism And Fundamentalism (pp. 16-17, Kindle edition). Ignatius Press.


I love this country, and am glad I'm an American. But America has come to symbolize instant gratification, the desire that fuels drug addiction, alcoholism, compulsive gambling, sexual addiction ... name any sin the fundies like to shout against ... is the same fuel on which American Christian fundamentalism runs.

Pray the magic prayer, and all is forgiven. And don't worry about the future, because Jesus will be by shortly to end the whole ugly mess. It's all fast and free.
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