Why are Thomas Drake and Bradley Manning

noise

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Mon May-23-11 11:59 AM
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Why are Thomas Drake and Bradley Manning

being prosecuted?

Don't we have enough issues to worry about without these distractions? Does the country really need such divisiveness right now?

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TheWraith

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Mon May-23-11 12:27 PM
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1. Because they committed crimes, by stealing classified information? nt

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EFerrari

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Mon May-23-11 01:12 PM
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3. Their crime was to expose government crime and corruption.

That is truly unforgivable.

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TheWraith

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Mon May-23-11 01:14 PM
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5. Really? Could you list in detail what crimes they have exposed?

Because you're lacking for the evidence.

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EFerrari

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Mon May-23-11 01:21 PM
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7. Search "Obama's War on Whistle Blowers". And have a nice day.

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JDPriestly

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Mon May-23-11 01:48 PM
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9. Granted, that is a crime.

And so was the torture at Abu Ghraib.

But if the torture at Abu Ghraib was a crime, why wasn't the torture elsewhere, such as at Guantanamo?

And if Manning's leaking and the torture at Abu Ghraib are prosecuted, shouldn't the torture at Guantanamo and other places in the world, torture performed by Americans, torture that, I believe led to death in at least one case (per Jane Mayer's book) be prosecuted first?

Crimes are not all equal. Torture seems to be a more serious crime than leaking "secrets," most if not all of which were actually gossip, hearsay, opinion and not really defense secrets at all.

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CrossChris

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Mon May-23-11 01:10 PM
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2. Why can't we just look forward? No one wants to get bogged down in finger-pointing.

Not with so much important work to be done. We need to come together, not be ripped apart by prosecutions.

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Wed May-25-11 12:52 AM
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12. Note how we are asked to overlook conduct

that was extremely harmful to the country. For example invading and occupying Iraq based on fixed intelligence and the gaming of the financial system that has ruined many peoples lives.

Arbitrary enforcement of the law.

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Tierra_y_Libertad

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Mon May-23-11 01:14 PM
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4. Because our "transparent" government is afraid of the people finding out what it does.

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gratuitous

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Mon May-23-11 01:18 PM
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6. Oh, as if torture is all that big a deal

Jeez, getting all hung up on the Constitution and a bunch of musty old treaties! As if! We're the United States of America, and we're automatically on the side of the angels. Whatever we do is right and proper and besides other people did worse things. Or might have done worse things. Or we were really, really scared. And there was always a very good reason for whatever we did, which wasn't wrong, but if it was, we'll just deny it or whitewash it, and, and, and, Threat Level Plaid! Aaaaahhh!

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Erose999

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Mon May-23-11 01:46 PM
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8. Bradley Manning has been charged with a crime? Thats news to me...

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Cid_B

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Mon May-23-11 01:58 PM
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10. Several actually...

including article 104 "aiding the enemy"

Potential death penalty...

He won't get it but one could hope.

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sabrina 1

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Mon May-23-11 11:29 PM
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11. Because the government has been lying to the people

and these two heroes exposed the lies.

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