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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:08 AM
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Trial for faith-healing parents set to begin
http://www.katu.com/news/local/122479239.html

Note: Some may find the photograph of 18-month-old Alayna Wyland difficult to look at. I won't post it, but it's at the bottom of the link.

OREGON, CITY, Ore. – Jury selection for two more members of the Followers of Christ Church is set to begin Tuesday, a day after the Oregon Senate passed a bill to crack down on faith-healing parents who don’t take their children to the doctor.

Tim and Rebecca Wyland are the third set of parents who belong to the Oregon City church who will stand trial for not getting their child medical attention.

The Wyland’s daughter, Alayna, has a growth on her left eye which doctors say was making her blind. She was put in temporary state custody last summer and her condition has improved with treatment. She is now 18 months old. <snip>

The prosecution has said the Wylands told authorities they would not seek medical care for their daughter unless ordered.


Fortunately, the Oregon Legislature just today saw fit to pass a measure that outlaws legal protection for parents who rely on faith healing instead of seeking medical care for their children, more here: http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/05/oregon_senate_votes_to_end_fai.html

Some of these church members just let their kids die rather than take their kids to the doctor. An investigation by The Oregonian claimed that at least 21 out of 78 minors found to be buried in the church cemetery died of preventable causes, including simple infections which would be easily treated with routine antibiotics, more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Followers_of_Christ

It's so sad there are people who would deny life-saving health care to their own innocent kids because of their crazy beliefs. This is madness.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:13 AM
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1. How can the state know what is God's will?
After all, if the parents rely on faith-healing and the child still dies, it's all part of "God's will". Since God works in mysterious ways, who are we to judge him?

:sarcasm:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 12:14 AM
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2. Religion is such a wonderous thing at times
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:01 AM
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3. The fact that this is their 'deeply held religious belief' means we're not allowed to mock it.
:sarcasm: :eyes:
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:45 AM
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4. Yeah, my deeply held religious belief is we should treat children for diseases.
I doubt they would respect my point of view on that.

I'm thinking Jesus would not want children to die of neglect.

I hear ya.
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:39 AM
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6. Wasn't God a child abuser?
I mean, he did torture and kill his only son to gain the self-esteem necessary to forgive the rest of us for being exactly what he created in the first place.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:06 PM
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10. There's been an awful lot of special pleading around here, past week or so
that, apparently, any sort of religious belief should be immune from mocking or even critical analysis.. witness the temper tantrums over the rapture threads.

I get a little tired of the 'poor, persecuted, picked on religious believer' shtick.

My opinion is that if your religion prevents you from doing your job as a parent (i.e. taking care of your kid) then you shouldn't be a parent. If your religion (or anything else) prevents you from doing your job as a pharmacist (i.e. filling birth control prescriptions, etc.) you shouldn't be a pharmacist. And you can believe whatever ludicrous crap you want, but you can't demand other people not make fun of it.

I suspect you agree on most or all of that, it isn't aimed at you specifically-- I'm just ranting.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 07:56 PM
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13. I do agree with you. n/t
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 04:37 AM
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5. I have no words for this type of "faith" except abuse.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 09:21 AM
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7. Ignorance is no excuse for criminal neglect. I wish Minnesota would protect its chlildren
the way Oregon does.
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divvy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:32 AM
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8. if only she were a fetus .....
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HappyMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:37 AM
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9. That's not 'faith'. It's abuse & lunacy. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:07 PM
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11. It's faith for them.
And I hope they have a lot of time in jail to reconsider it.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 01:30 PM
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12. The title of the article is inaccurate
Edited on Tue May-24-11 01:31 PM by Bragi
"Trial for faith-healing parents set to begin"

I don't see any faith-healing here. I see child abuse.
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