Is anyone else finding this address by Netanyahu before a cheering

US Congress disturbing?

But I'm sure not surprised.

That guy?

And killed 34 American service men in the process.

:applause: :fistbump: :toast:

Especially what they did to Rachel Corrie.
They could have arrested the kid.
Instead, they ran her over with a bulldozer.

Her crime: The 23-year-old peace activist and American citizen,
was working to protect Palestinian peace activists' homes from destruction.

Harbor. What about the UK? They burnt the white house for gosh sakes! That was in 1812 though. How much time must pass till one can be an ally from some other bad event?

Logic fail.

Israel knowingly attacked a U.S. warship in international waters, and was a U.S. ally at that time.

The only 'ally' to ever kill U.S. servicemen on purpose.

Red Herring, great with horseradish.

The truly disturbing part is the response to the man's vile speech.

I saw the news on the screen in our lobby and thought, "what the fuck?"

warmongering, it seems!!

PLUS, a very close alliance with US MIC --

US and Israeli weapons manufacturing is so closely intertwined that you can

barely tell the difference between them!

Congresses of the CPSU come to mind.

He says "jump," Congress asks "how high?"

Quite literally.

He's coming off a bit as a military commander giving us our orders. He seems to be lamenting the good old days when his favorite president ran off to invade any Arab country at the drop of a hat, and congress is spending most of the speech on it's feet applauding vigorously.

It's more than frightening enough for me.

"So, I tell this to President Obama ..."

WTF?

I have been watching and waiting for him to come out with his real agenda every since Obama was elected. He has been waiting and planning along with the CONS and a lot of the Dems for the perfect time because they will back him up no matter what he says or does.

How many times has he been Prime Minister or President every since I have been old enough to pay attention to this little game they play he has always been some where demanding America follows his orders,whether he was in power on not..

Fucking religion. It destroys all rationality, it destroys everything.

I hope Clinton et al respond to these lies and madness.
Standing ovation for this right wing madness

I saw both sides of the aisle rising as one at every lie and each racist remark.

He simply is not speaking in good faith. He has done his best to make a Palestinian state impossible. His speech is revisionist history, which ignores the illegal nature of the Israel settlements. Our Congress is simply craven in its refusal to criticize Israel's policies in any way.

I pictured a group of people moving onto my property one day and setting up a settlement in my fields and claiming that their god gave them the right to take back the land that god had given to their people...and began to threaten me and beat me if I even thought to protest their right to take my property. Then I began to picture a survivalist cult that lived down the road offering to help me drive them out if I would join forces with them and how I would do that...thinking they were the lesser of the evils. Ah well!

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.... that if there is an anti-christ, he's it. Dunno why, just that creepy tingling up the back of my neck.


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against the President to avoid seriously trying to negotiate a peace treaty with the Palestinians and the Republicans in Congress are using Netanyahu to poke President Obama in the eye to prevent a peace treaty from ever taking place under his watch as this would represent a major foreign policy, political achievement for him, undermining Republican chances in 2012.

Thanks for the thread, annabananna.

just heard part a report about it on npr news at noon.

Some kind of general disturbance among the proles.

Netanyahu smartly turned it into a crowd-pleasing "this is real democracy, imagine this going down in Damascus or Tripoli" ad-lib.

interests of the United States. I do not think that the world is made safer by only taking the concerns of one of the groups seriously.

into the most un-useful rancor. It's as if everyone goes from rational to hyperventilation in a second.

Bibi pushed all the right buttons to keep rational thought out of the discussion.

Yes, it's disturbing.

I find that disturbing as well. Why would MSNBC for example carry each and every fart erupting from this asshole's mouth, especially after the way he arrogantly and disdainfully lectured our President last week? You would think it was Winston Churchill addressing Congress and asking for the US to intervene in World War II. How many foreign dignitaries get their entire speech covered like this? It seems to me that, on the contrary, any foreign visitors get cut off by the cable news channels after just one or two sentences when they give a speech. I strongly support Israel's right to exist. I value their democracy and, from what I've heard, most Israelis have strong democratic values and are to the left of this POS Netanyahu. I don't understand why Israel keeps electing the most extreme right wing fanatics to their government like this Likudnik filth. And I don't understand why this extremist gets such a prominent platform on national television in America. I don't understand it.

to support all things Israel, even when they have elected the likes of dick cheney to lead their country. In fact, it's probably the most conservative Jews in the USA who helped get Netanyahu elected in the first place. The Likudnicks are as fascist as those who previously tried to annihilate them. The victim has become the bully. But it's going to come back to bite Israel, just like our arrogance is going to come back to bite us.

he talked forever, and yet said so little that was not already known..

..I saw this asshole in front of fat pig Hagee's fundy church while channel surfing a few years back. He was giving the sermon and had a big love fest with the fundies. He's more than right wing---he's Israel's version of fundy lunatic.

And if so, will the media cover it?

Why are there no representatives of Palestine on our media? I remember when there used to be. But, I never see anyone from Palestine on the US media any more.

And yes, it's very disturbing.

The world seems to be moving on from this issue and ready to recognize Palestine. The US has failed miserably to bring about peace there so it's good that the rest of the world are no longer waiting for it to happen.

Maybe Obama realized this and rather than lose US influence in the region, decided to take a stand.

... because they are not allies like Israel is and the influence of Hamas in their government is something that the US does not want to legitimize.

If the POTUS hadn't made his recent claims and then backed off them it wouldn't be as much of a story and I doubt Netanyahu would have received the same attention.

Israel, like every other country, has the right to defend itself. I am and always have been a liberal and have been a member of democratic underground almost from the beginning of the site. The constant negativity against Israel here is repulsive. Israel is the only democracy in that part of the world. They are surrounded by countries who would be overjoyed by their destruction. Israel is a very small country. Giving up more of what they have will make it harder for them to defend themselves. Don't you think the Palestinians will be building up an arsenal against Israel from the time they have their own state? There would be a very bloody war between them eventually. The job of the Israeli government is to protect their people(of all different religions and ethnic backgrounds), not to play games with political correctness.

otherwise, yeah, standard bullshit.
Enjoy your long time DU'er status.

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--imm

That's the question never answered.

They voted in Hamas as a governing party after much prodding during the Buxh admministration to form free and fair elections.

Most people don't like Hamas, but the Palestinians had a choice at the polls so Israel is not the only democracy in the region. This shouldn't surprise because Palestinians generally don't like the Israelis for some reason or another. I heard it has something to do with stealing their land.

did they cheer him more than they cheered President Obama in his last speech to congress???
One cannot serve two masters at the same time...........so...........who is the master?

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... with unanimous bipartisan support. An alien watching the speech could've thought Bibi was the Earth's Dear Leader.

I think that's what's bothering quite a few people, including myself. Not the predictable speech, but rather the reaction to it among our elected officials.

fucking liar

The people are wonderful. This guy is an arrogant asshole that (imo) will start WWIII by proxy by demanding the US push the button for him. He'll have to wait until we get another Republican in office, though.

Interesting timing that he speaks before Congress while Obama is out of town.

dogwhistling of another sort

This wasn't a speech by a foreign dignitary, this was fealty.

"Wotta revoltin' development this is!"


A ludicrous and nauseating spectacle. I suspect that, like me, a lot of Americans would like to be able to have their OWN foreign policy again.

mind was, "who does this guy think he is?" Barking orders about what he will and won't accept. That's fine, you go your way... we'll just keep our money and-- good luck with that!