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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 09:47 PM
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Have The Repugs Been Right About Anything?.........
It just seems that the Repugs are on the wrong side of every major issue. I know that I'm biased - but it seems apparent to me that they haven't been right about anything lately. Boner is a big failure as a House Leader. His minions even look sillier. It seems like they have imploded. Is it just me or is this really happening?
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 09:55 PM
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1. Nope and they haven't done anything constructive since
Nixon created the EPA, which BTW the current repukes want to destroy.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:15 PM
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6. Democratic Congress forced the formation of the EPA
It was at just this time that Congress sent to the President a remarkable bill known as the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). Senator Gaylord Nelson (D-Wis)--looking back at the "Environmental Decade" in 1980--called NEPA "the most important piece of environmental legislation in our history." It is easy to see why.

A tone of high-minded idealism pervades this statute. NEPA's stated purposes were:

"To declare a national policy which will encourage productive and enjoyable harmony between man and his environment."

"To promote efforts which will prevent or eliminate damage to the environment and biosphere and stimulate the health and welfare of man."

"To enrich our understanding of the ecological systems and natural resources important to the Nation."

To further these ends, NEPA called for the formation of a Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ) to give the President expert advice on environmental matters. The CEQ was also charged with reviewing Environmental Impact Statements, which were now required of all federal agencies planning projects with major environmental ramifications.

In an era of bitter ideological disputes, public opinion was virtually unanimous on the need for the national environmental policy NEPA would generate. Turning his reluctant consent into a show of visionary statesmanship, President Nixon chose to sign NEPA on New Year's Day, 1970--thus making the signing his "first official act of the decade." He named future EPA Administrator Russell E. Train to be the first CEQ Chairman.


http://www.epa.gov/history/topics/epa/15c.htm
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:21 PM
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7. Yeah but Nixon signed it, so I give him a little credit for not vetoing it
The repukes have not even signed anything constructive in the last 40 years.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:27 PM
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8. His veto meant nothing
Edited on Tue May-24-11 10:28 PM by tabasco
It would have been overridden, so he signed.


Nixon was a rat bastard as rotten as they come.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:29 PM
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10. But any repuke now would veto it anyway
The Repukes now are far more evil then Nixon, which is really saying something.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 06:31 AM
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13. After a level of evil is reached it does no good to compare!
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 09:56 PM
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2. The sense orf power make one do wierd things.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:02 PM
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3. They are imploding, no question.
Like Eric Cantor holding up federal funds as extortion to get his demands for spending cuts done. What's he think? Only Democrats live in Joplin? They are so out of touch (witness Newt and his revolving $500K open account at Tiffianys - "but it was a no-charge account") and insulated from the bottom 95%, that they have come to believe their own bullshit. They've done nothing to address jobs...but they're obsessed with their anti-abortion agenda.

What's going to be interesting is to see how they react to their debacle tonight. Double down on the delusion and expect better results in 18 months? Or change course and start to support a middle-class agenda...which means working with Democrats and that will, of course, drive their Teapublican base nuts. Should be lots of fun watching them as they stumble on to 2012.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:07 PM
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4. of course:
Edited on Tue May-24-11 10:08 PM by Gabi Hayes
Proper use of Marketing strategy to gain/maintain power

they've been absolutely correct in the way they've realized that the employment of Goebellian media manipulation techniques to hoodwink the more credulous amongst the voting public (mainly through emotion-laden wedge issues) would be most effective in influencing them to vote completely against their interests

IOW

What's the Matter With Kansas

On Bended Knee

Fooling America

Karl Rove & the Spectre of Freud’s Nephew

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country… We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized… " So opens Propaganda (1928), one of several strikingly frank analyses of western social psychology written by Edward Bernays. This nephew of Sigmund Freud founded the public relations industry in the United States.

Mr. Bernays lived a fascinating life. He first got involved in high stakes politics when he "warmed up" the dour Calvin Coolidge by arranging the first presidential celebrity photo op in 1928. For the private sector, Bernays engineered a most notorious publicity stunt for the American Tobacco Company, by single-handedly neutralizing the taboo against women smoking in public. He organized a "Torches of Freedom" march down Broadway by ten smoking debutantes during the 1929 Easter Parade. With the help of feminists – some of whom understood the "right to smoke" as libratory – Bernays expertly publicized this spectacle, thus setting in motion the expected stir on op-ed pages across the land.

For Bernays, truth in public affairs did not exist per se. Rather, truth was the product of the "public relations counsel" forging prevailing "public opinion." It should be said that he readily recognized the ethical implications of his work, as witnessed in his later anti-smoking advocacy, after the dangers of cigarettes became known in the late-1950s. He could also be, in his own curious way, a humanitarian – as reflected in his work promoting the NAACP and anti-syphilis public education.

For Bernays, however, the necessity of controlling the public mind was a crucially important matter confronting the better element, a group in which he clearly included himself. In his first work, the hugely influential Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923), Bernays noted that the establishment of public education and the gradual extension of the right to vote caused consternation among western elites. The use of public relations techniques, then, was a way for the minority to "so mold the mind of the masses that they will throw their newly gained strength in the desired direction."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/bender2.html
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:14 PM
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5. They look at the world with amoral colored glasses. That makes them warped. The world, the world
they so covet power over, is filled with human being who are good and willing to work hard if given a chance. The GOP doesn't want to give the human beings of the world that chance...they want to give it all to the corporations. They are like mentally sick dogs. Their end game doesn't take into account a healthy, shared planet. They will fail in the end. But how many of us they take with them will depend on how hard we can fight back.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 10:27 PM
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9. slavery?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 11:12 PM
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11. better phrased: Have conservatives been right about anything?
Conservatives have been wrong since the days when they were Tories in the revolution; Republicans have only been wrong since the 1880s (or thereabouts).
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 05:55 AM
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12. I'm 61 and not in my life time.
Perhaps the last time they were right would be when Abe was president.
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