conspires, lies, propagandises and outright bullshits us....
e.g. Gulf of Tonkin, Iran Contra, Watergate, Kuwaiti babies supposedly pulled from incubators by evil Iraqi troops and left to die on the hospital floor, lies about the WMDs that the mentally deficient horse's ass GWB was unable to find (no matter how hard he looked, whether in Iraq or under his own Oval Office carpet), Condi's absolute lie that "no one could have imagined they would crash planes into buildings", Pat Tillman's much revised death story, Jessica Lynch and the Pentagon created fake heroism story of her capture and the subsequent fake, glamorized rescue by special forces etc.
- we are the wacky ones to dare to raise our hand and suggest that we smell a rat regarding another of their tall tales.
Daniel Ellsberg: “Secrets ... Can Be Kept Reliably ... For Decades … Even Though They Are Known to THOUSANDS of Insiders” Proving a claim of conspiracy is no different from proving any other legal claim, and the mere label "conspiracy" is taken no less seriously by judges.
Indeed, even Obama's information tzar - who advocates using the power of the state to shut down talk of conspiracies - admits:
Some conspiracy theories, under our definition, have turned out to be true ... The Watergate hotel room used by Democratic National Committee was, in fact, bugged by Republican officials, operating at the behest of the White House. In the 1950s, the CIA did, in fact, administer LSD and related drugs under Project MKULTRA, in an effort to investigate the possibility of 'mind control.'”
Can't Hide It
Those accusing Goldman Sachs, Dick Cheney or some other powerful people of conspiring to enrich their interests are often met with the argument that "someone would have spilled the beans" if there had really been a conspiracy.
But famed whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg explains:
It is a commonplace that "you can't keep secrets in Washington" or "in a democracy, no matter how sensitive the secret, you're likely to read it the next day in the New York Times." These truisms are flatly false. They are in fact cover stories, ways of flattering and misleading journalists and their readers, part of the process of keeping secrets well. Of course eventually many secrets do get out that wouldn't in a fully totalitarian society. But the fact is that the overwhelming majority of secrets do not leak to the American public. This is true even when the information withheld is well known to an enemy and when it is clearly essential to the functioning of the congressional war power and to any democratic control of foreign policy. The reality unknown to the public and to most members of Congress and the press is that secrets that would be of the greatest import to many of them can be kept from them reliably for decades by the executive branch, even though they are known to thousands of insiders.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2011/05/daniel-ellsberg-secrets-can-be-kept.html
(and more embedded links in the original)
I will also apply this request from ljm2002 to my own post:
And please if my innocuous comments here threaten to get this thread put in the dungeon, I request the mods delete my post rather than kick the thread out of GD.Finally, read my sig line.