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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 08:48 PM
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Is the US government terrorizing the public?
Edited on Sat May-28-11 09:05 PM by noise
Whenever it's time to renew counterterrorism legislation we hear government officials tell us that failure to renew the legislation puts the country at greater risk of terrorist attacks. In early 2009 when there was talk of prosecuting CIA agents who exceeded the OLC torture guidelines, some US officials (i.e. former CIA Director Hayden) told the public that such prosecutions were unfair and would distract the intelligence community from their job. Basically the message was forget the past or the country will be at higher risk of more terrorist attacks.

Is fearmongering the way representative democracy is supposed to work?



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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 08:50 PM
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1. Yes, or at least they're trying to. K&R - n/t
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:00 PM
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2. Feels like it.
Wars without End. Welfare for Wall Street. Uncle Sam Watches You. Etc. Etc. Etc.
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:04 PM
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3. Yes. And mass media aids and abets by promoting fear. nt
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:59 PM
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5. They sure do
Edited on Sun May-29-11 12:59 PM by noise
If there is a lapse, a senior administration official said, the F.B.I. would be able to continue using orders it had already obtained, but it would not be able to apply for new ones if further tips and leads came in about a possible terrorist operation. The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, reacted with alarm to that prospect, saying no one could predict what the consequences of a temporary lapse might be.

“This is unprecedented,” the official said. “We don’t believe the risk is worth it.”

Patriot Act Battle Could Hinder Investigators
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:17 PM
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4. The terrorists are at the gates, climbing over the walls,
digging tunnels, and just trying to destroy this country.
If they would show just a little patience they could come
here in about 4 years and just take over because the
elected officials and their money men/women will have
pretty much finished the country by then.

For at least 60 years the people that were suppose to be protecting us
have gone into countries and tried to change them to our benefit.
We have gone in and killed, tortured, tried to buy them.
All that is to have any number of people pissed at us. When we go in and take control
of a country we call the people firing back terrorists.

At one time some people gathered to form a better country than they had.
The Mother country sent armies to stop that. We called the people that
fought for a better country Patriots. I am sure the British thought of them as terrorists.

It is hard in this world today to really know who the terrorists and the Patriots are.



A population that lives in fear is easier to control..........
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:07 PM
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6. “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed...
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.” H.L. Mencken
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:18 PM
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7. I am appalled and feel more at risk than ever but more from within than outside attack.
The USA Marshall Plan, formation of the UN, and Bretton Woods are the high points of American foreign policy.

The "pragmatic" killing and "collateral damage" of the past 60 years is a recipe for blowback.

Asymetrical war (terrorism) against a high tech invading force is recipe.

I started to get into domestic economic terrorism against the general population but won't.

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