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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 08:50 PM
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When she finds out she can't invoke 1st Amendment at ACORN trial, Hannah Giles breaks down and tries
To pin it all on her partner in the cut-and-paste videos, James O'Keefe.

"James O'Keefe and Hannah Giles, the "pimp" and "prostitute" of the notorious ACORN scam attempted to invoke the First Amendment as a hedge against a $75,000 lawsuit filed by ACORN employee Juan Carlos Vera under the California Privacy Act.

California federal judge M. James Lorenz has dismissed the argument, stating that since O'Keefe and Giles had established a mutual understanding with Vera that the conversation would remain confidential, rules protecting journalists did not apply.

Additionally, Giles attempted to shift the onus of the blame for the prank entirely to O'Keefe, in that he wore the camera used to record the conversations. Judge Lorenz denied that motion as well, ruling that the Law "is directed to the surreptitious recording of confidential communications and not the manner or method of recording the conversation", meaning Giles bears equal culpability in the suit."

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/28/judge-denies-motions-by-acorn-pranksters/
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 08:52 PM
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1. And them such good buds.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:09 PM
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4. A republican friend will throw you under the bus faster then you can say bus
if their necks are on the line. Remember conservatives were the snitches and tattle tails of your youth, the liberal friend has always been the person who stuck by your side trying to help you find a way out even if they ended up putting their necks on the line. It is a way of life for them and by blaming others it helps them get around the crap they get involved with, remember their first line of defense is the Devil made them do it. When tht fails they look for the first person they see to pin the blame on. Look at the Giles first line of defense, 1st amendment protection, when that failed it was he made me do it besides he was the one with the hidden camera and recording devices.
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:05 PM
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15. So true.
Which is why they grow up with the "f**k you I'm out for myself attitude". They NEVER take responsibility for their wrong-doings. They have a mental disorder.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:43 PM
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17. One of my earliest school chums, we started hanging out in grade K
used to talk me into dumb crap kids always seem to get into and every time we got busted it was he made me do it. When school bullies started in on me he was right beside them, it got so bad by JR high I stopped hanging with him, that year he lost his dad to a car accident, leaving him his older sister younger brother and the twin sisters with mom living on SS survivors benefits, I believe his twin sisters were born a month after their father passed. When he turned 16 he got into a grocery store as a stock boy and was paid union wages, $3 more then a non union store. Mom let him spend his pay checks as he pleased and never charged him room or board, SS and food stamps paid the family enough to survive with a decent income so mom let him slide.

At 18 he joined the military and then married a military brat, her father was an officer, in 1980 she convinced him to join the GOP and they were rabid Reaganites. I ran into him a few years ago and he was an insufferable bore, never mind for 12 months in 1983 both him, wife and new born son, they were on welfare, they both quit their jobs because neither one had health care so welfare paid for the birth of their son, then after the son was old enough for granny to take care of him they both went back to work. To hear him talk, he worked hard all of his life and had no help getting where he is today, he is an exec of a trucking firm, he earned it all. FFS, he didn't even have chores, once in a great while mom would ask him to get out the riding lawn mower and mow the lawn, mom usually did it with a push mower. Yep a true self made Republican.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:52 PM
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19. I know so many who are the same. It's as though their level of emotional
maturity stopped @ age 3. They never learned to share.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 05:46 PM
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27. It is not a "prank"...people were seriously hurt by false allegations...
These scumbags should pay and pay and pay.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 08:56 PM
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2. Oh, my--this is gonna get good if they areratting each other out already. nt
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 05:18 PM
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26. LOVELY people.
:sarcasm:

Birds of a feather.

:puke:
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:00 PM
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3. That pretty little minx has a FB page that has 16K 'likes'. Can you F believe that?
Here's a recent blurb from her purdy little mouth:

Hannah Giles
‎@Subversion Inc., A new book by investigative reporter Matthew Vadum
Investigative reporter Hannah Giles has endorsed Subversion Inc.
"Thanks to Matthew Vadum's extensive research, there is no way liberals will be able to whitewash the evils of ACORN. History will not be kind to america's most notorious pressure group."
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:26 PM
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7. No surprise to see Vadum's name there
Edited on Sat May-28-11 09:27 PM by starroute
I came up with his name when the O'Keefe thing first broke. He works for the Capital Research Center -- which is closely tied in with the Heritage Foundation -- and is the source of most of the dirt or fake dirt on ACORN. I think he's also the originator of the convoluted conspiracy theories tying ACORN back to Saul Alinsky and other left-wing community organizers that Glenn Beck peddles.

So it's no surprise at all to see Giles giving him credit -- but it's nice to have confirmation of a connection that was originally just guesswork.

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PonyJon Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 03:06 PM
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24. so true
yeah
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:11 PM
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16. "pressure group"?
Who were they pressuring?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 07:32 PM
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35. They, ACORN, were pressuring racists, using the
Edited on Sun May-29-11 07:35 PM by sabrina 1
Community Rehabilitation Act to help minorities who qualified to buy homes like everyone else. Racists hated the CRA as it made keeping minorities out of their neighborhood illegal.

ACORN pressured banks on behalf of minorities who were being denied the opportunities everyone else had, and backed by the CRA were able to do so. Most of those helped by ACORN to buy their homes back then, paid their mortgages contrary to racists' claims that they would not.

O'Keefe/Breitbart are racists. Throughout all of their 'stunts' you will find a racist theme. In the case of the Pimp/Prostitute eg, why did they think ACORN workers would find nothing wrong with a Pimp/Prostitute looking to traffic in young girls? Because to their way of thinking, African Americans would fall for the scam because 'everyone knows this would nothing be new to them'.

Check out any of their stunts, they are always based on race.

They and their ilk hated ACORN because ACORN made it as difficult as they could for racists to keep decent American citizens who happened to be minorities, from owning a home wherever they chose. For forty years the far right has been out to get ACORN. Sadly, Democrats helped them achieve their goal after the stupid, easily debunked stunt by Giles/O'Keefe.
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 07:14 PM
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33. I'm white
and I could probably start the bashing of liberals, and considering my family connections, I could probably make serious bank.

The problem? My morals get in the way every single time, and telling lies, and framing other people for my own misfortunes just doesn't suit me.

Oh, I do blame Republicans, mind you, for their inane policy decisions and their rabid conservative values, but that's because they have had a direct hand in destroying our country.

I don't mind blaming Democrats, either, however, when they go right along with it.

Republicans are always blaming other for lying. Life has taught me that the quicker a person is to be jealous, accuse others of fraud or lying, the quicker they are to engage in it themselves. I'm waiting for life to prove me wrong, but since I try to avoid lying, being a fraud and cheating, something tells me that the world will have to keep waiting for me to engage in those traits.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:09 PM
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5. o'keefe is a nobody. giles is a somebody. he'll take the fall.
Edited on Sat May-28-11 09:13 PM by Hannah Bell
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Moostache Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:41 AM
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14. How is that Giles related to the one with the ass in the pimp videos?
Just wondering...
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 03:09 PM
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25. father/daughter. n/t
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:13 PM
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6. sad to see it is only $75,000
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 09:31 PM
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8. It can go higher

$75k is just a benchmark figure required for pleading federal jurisdiction in this type of suit.

What you plead is not a limit. The other side can argue that, but if they are already over motions on jurisdiction, it's understood that we are talking about AT LEAST 75k.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:55 PM
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20. What's there punishment for destroying all the good acorn did?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 10:22 PM
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9. Pardon me please, while I LAUGH out loud. Nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-28-11 11:11 PM
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10. How are you going to earn the money to pay up, Hannah?
You better still have that hooker outfit available...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 07:51 AM
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12. doesn't she have a nice fat cat right wing "defense fund" out there,
doing a direct mail fundraising campaign? I thought that was standard for these types...
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 03:03 PM
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23. Her father.
Yeah, her father is conservative radio commentator, blogger and "comedian" (and Breitbart crony) Doug Giles, who I can assure you will be picking up Hannah's legal tab (since this stunt is his kind of stunt and I'd wager he's the unseen hand in this mess anyways.) and has the millions to do so for his babygirl.

It's O'Keefe who is fucked ninety-nine ways to pauperism here.

We might as well make it 100. I, Chan790, pledge the first $5 into a sinking fund to finance a reward for legally-admissible evidence of James O'Keefe committing a felony sufficient to revoke his probation and send him to prison. $5 more for a second fund to rat-trap Andy Breitbart. So, yeah, I'm in $10 to take down the Republican Goon Squad.

(Hannah Giles isn't worth the effort to do the same because she just proved that she's willing to go stoolie to CYA and thus she's just cut her own throat. She might as well go get a real job, she'll never be trusted again for the juicy stuff now that any future conspirators know she tried to throw O'Keefe to the wolves to save her own heinie.)
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:41 AM
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11. These two asshats deserve the stiffest penalties available under the law. n/t
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 09:28 AM
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13. CONs are all for the "full measure of the law" until it is applied to them. nt
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RayStar Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:49 PM
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18. Good news
I want them punished very harshly. ASAP
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:07 PM
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21. A fucking whore. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:12 PM
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22. Stupid woman. I hope she and Little Jimmy the Pervert
go to jail for a very, very long time.
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individual rights Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 05:59 PM
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28. The story reads as if Giles is representing herself--is she?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:01 PM
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29. The high price of being a dumbass.
nt

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:17 PM
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30. Honey hate to tell you this but he already thought you were a whore and treated you as such
From what I have seen of the videos all he and his buddy did was film your ass. Really close up. Nice ass honey but that is all you are to him and his kind.
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:54 PM
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31. but he is not a journalist, he is a GOP maggot
Edited on Sun May-29-11 06:55 PM by dogmoma56
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 06:57 PM
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32. Did he hold a gun to her head? Did he use some otherworldly mystical powers?
If not, she's as guilty as he is.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 07:17 PM
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34. I'm so happy that Mr. Vera is fighting back.
:toast:
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 08:35 PM
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36. The old "I was just sitting in the get away car defense"


:rofl:
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