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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:06 AM
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Repubs. have prevented Obama from making a recess appointment of Elizabeth Warren this
Edited on Sun May-29-11 11:08 AM by Cal33
Memorial Day. He could wait till the Summer Recess, when he'll have a better
chance of success. It's less likely that the Repubs. would be sending a congressman
to The Capitol every single morning for the entire month of August, right until Labor Day.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:07 AM
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1. Could he make it a Cabinet position?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:10 AM
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2. Not without passing a new law.
The president can't just create a new department without congressional authority.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:24 AM
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4. What about putting her under an existing Cabinet position?
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:12 PM
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7. The position Obama is trying to fill is the Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
an agency whose creation was authorized by the Dodd Frank bill last year. The legislation housed CFPB within the federal reserve.

Obama isn't just hiring her as a consultant. He's trying to appoint her to a position that was authorized by congress. He can't just move her and CFPB somewhere else without congressional approval.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:28 PM
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9. OK, I forgot about CFPB
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:11 AM
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3. I suppose he could, but don't cabinet ministers still have to be approved by Congress?
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:02 PM
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12. They do indeed. nt
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:27 AM
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5. Wall Street and their minions fear Elizabeth, ergo, I love Elizabeth. n/t
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:18 PM
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8. Yes, she is an extraordinarily good person, and the Neocons are too evil
to allow her to have that job!
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 11:36 AM
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6. Don't have to send a congressman every morning.
Any suspension 3 days or less is not considered a recess. So they could send a congressman who lives in the DC area every few days and stop a recess. Same thing Reid did when Bush was president.
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individual rights Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:31 PM
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10. Recess appointments should not be permitted.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 12:38 PM
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11. Oh yes...
obstructionism and having the position remain unfilled indefinitely is much much better. :eyes:
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individual rights Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:18 PM
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15. Yes, I believe it is.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:08 PM
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13. I don't necessarily disagree.
Here are a few of my personal "favorites."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Recess_appointments_made_by_President_George_W._Bush

John R. Bolton as U.N. Ambassador in August 2005, after having been blocked by the Senate. Bolton was Bush's 106th recess appointment.

Peter Flory as an Assistant Secretary of Defense, after having been blocked by the Senate.

William H. Pryor, Jr. to 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals February 20, 2004, "in the face of a Democratic filibuster of the nomination."

Charles W. Pickering, Sr. to Federal Appeals Court January 17, 2004, from which he had been blocked twice by the Senate.
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individual rights Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:18 PM
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14. I see that you are wise enough to flip the coin and look at the other side.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:24 PM
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16. It's a political tool that I would rather neither party put to use.
However, it's not a privilege I think should be reserved only for Republican presidents. So in this case, I would support a recess appointment. It is the custom.
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individual rights Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:40 PM
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17. What you seem to be suggesting is that neither side is any better than the other.
I don't necessarily disagree.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:51 PM
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20. Actually, I don't think I did suggest that.
Obama Administration appointees have faced an unprecedented level of obstruction in the Senate.

•President Obama currently has a total of 217 nominees pending before the Senate. These nominees have been pending for an average of 101 days, including 34 nominees pending for more than 6 months.
•The 15 nominees President Obama intends to recess appoint have been pending for an average of 214 days or 7 months for a total of 3204 days or almost 9 years.
•President Bush had made 15 recess appointments by this point in his presidency, but he was not facing the same level of obstruction. At this time in 2002, President Bush had only 5 nominees pending on the floor. By contrast, President Obama has 77 nominees currently pending on the floor, 58 of whom have been waiting for over two weeks and 44 of those have been waiting more than a month.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-announces-recess-appointments-key-administration-positions


Draw your own conclusions.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:55 PM
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21. i completely disagree with your supposition. completely.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 01:42 PM
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18. They key in the case of Bolton was that it was Bush's 106th use of the technique.
Used sparingly I think it can be helpful. But it shouldn't be the de facto tool to get around congressional approval.

In general I'd say that parliamentary tricks should be used infrequently and in cases where its critically important to your agenda, which might be the case for Elizabeth Warren.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:21 PM
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22. We are entering an age where the opposition isn't just blocking particular people -- they are
blocking everyone for particular positions. When they (more likely than not) take the Senate in 2012, they might simply hot hold a hearing on anyone.

Not only should recess appointments be permitted -- Reoublicans might eventually force them to be the defaut option for various nominees.
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 03:11 PM
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24. But when recess appointments also can be blocked, what difference would it make?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 02:29 PM
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23. Folks I have faith that the Repugs are too stupid to understand
the game they are playing. They are simple minded and short term thinkers....Elizabeth Warren is going to hurt them badly and they know it. Americans support her...

This ain't over...we need to participate in targeting those Repugs designated to stay in DC while the others go out to their districts....we need to attack each of those districts with what that particular Congress critter is doing....
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-29-11 05:33 PM
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25. Yes, we'll have to make sure that enough people in those states will
understand what their congresspeople are doing.
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