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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:41 AM
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Media Snoozed When Glenn Beck Called Cindy Sheehan a "Slut"
Edited on Mon May-30-11 11:13 AM by kpete
"Cindy Sheehan is a tragedy slut." The Glenn Beck Program, August 15, 2005
http://evilslutopia.com/2009/04/glenn-beck-can-suck-it.html

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Media Snoozed When Glenn Beck Called Cindy Sheehan a "Slut"
By MARC McDONALD

MSNBC host Ed Schultz has been suspended for a week after he called conservative radio host Laura Ingraham a "right-wing slut." The episode has caused a huge uproar in both the mainstream media, as well as the right-wing blogosphere and talk radio. Ingraham herself has waded into the controversy by accusing Schultz of "misogyny."

But how many people recall back in 2005 when Glenn Beck called Cindy Sheehan a "slut"? http://mobile.thestar.com/mobile/entertainment/article/970808 Don't feel bad if you don't remember this. Unlike the uproar over Schultz's remark, the mainstream media snoozed when Beck called Sheehan a "slut." And of course, Ingraham was silent about her good buddy Beck's remark back in 2005.

Beck faced absolutely no punishment or reprimand for his 2005 remark. Indeed, this episode is completely forgotten today. Since then, Beck has gone on to enjoy an astonishingly lucrative career. For example, in 2009 alone, he pulled down a cool $32 million, mostly from his vast radio and publishing empire.

The moral of this story, of course, is this: if you're a Republican, you can pretty much say anything you want these days (including using violent rhetoric against Democratic politicians). But if you're a Democrat, you've got to be very careful and watch what you say---or you will be immediately punished, as Schultz found out.

http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2006/05/why-is-cnn-dignifying-glenn-beck-bigot.html
http://www.beggarscanbechoosers.com/2011/05/media-snoozed-when-glenn-beck-called.html
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4356948
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:43 AM
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1. .
Edited on Mon May-30-11 10:44 AM by lame54
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:45 AM
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2. IOKIYAR.
Rec'd.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:23 AM
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24. I forget - what does that mean again?
:shrug:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:11 PM
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27. It's OK if you are Republican. nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:46 AM
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3. Can we not do better than Beck?
Edited on Mon May-30-11 10:47 AM by MineralMan
Are we not capable of expressing ourselves more eloquently than Beck?

Should we not hold ourselves to a higher standard than Beck?

"Look, Johnny did it too." is not a defense. It never has been a defense.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:50 AM
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5. The OP seems to be about the media's reaction (or non reaction in this case)
At least that's how I see it. Not about defending Schultz because a jerk did it too.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:54 AM
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6. As I said. We're held to a higher standard than Beck.
We're supposed to be better than that. When we aren't, it gets noticed.

Glenn Beck is a little toad and bitter slime comes off him regularly. It's who he is. It's who Fox News is.

Schultz knows better. He got called on a stupid slip of the tongue. I found it offensive, myself. We are better than that.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:41 AM
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11. Well to be fair to the media...
Beck was a nobody in 2005. He didn't even have his CNN Headlines News show at the time. Sure he had a radio show and listeners but nobody outside of the audience knew who he was or paid attention to him.
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:46 AM
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12. That is the difference...
If Beck called Pelosi a slut today people would tweak out as well....
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:08 AM
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8. can't we hold R's to the same standard as
D's are held to? I don't see anything wrong with that,
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:15 AM
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10. Of course we can, and we should.
The media does not do our bidding, however.

We must still maintain our own standards, though.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:20 PM
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29. The media doesn't do our bidding because we do not yell
loud enough, as one CNN producer said not so long ago. Time to start screaming as the right does, only louder.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 03:36 PM
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33. Go for it. Yell your lungs out.
I'll just keep on writing letters and emails, etc. Yelling raises my blood pressure, and that's not healthy for me.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 04:55 PM
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35. It's a waste of time to write and email the media. We did that
for years both here on DU and elsewhere. No point in engaging in useless, energy-wasting busy work.

'Yelling' was not meant literally, didn't think I'd have to explain that to anyone here.

Working to restore some semblance of the Fairness Act and breaking up the conglomerates that now control the media, (who throw complaining emails and letters in the garbage as we who used to waste time on that exercise found out, btw), is what needs to be done and that will only happen when enough real Democrats are elected to Congress and start working for the people instead of Corporate America.

The US media is a disgrace. I would not waste a minute trying to talk to the same people who are the cause of the problem. But if you have the time to waste, you are certainly free to do so.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:17 PM
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28. Missing the point. The point is the media has different
Edited on Tue May-31-11 12:18 PM by sabrina 1
standards for Beck and his ilk than they do for Progressives. And it definitely needs to be pointed out, over and over again.

Clearly we do hold ourselves to a higher standard as is demonstrated by the difference in the treatment of Beck and Ed Schultz. So that isn't the point of the OP at all.

Not sure what your point is actually.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 10:48 AM
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4. Ignoring Beck seems a reasonable response to me. n/t
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:05 AM
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7. And look where Beck is now...wait, where is Beck?
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 11:09 AM
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9. WTF??
What respondents seem to be saying is that it is okay for the corporate media to seek out these incidents with leftists and use them for systematic, broad-based attacks on the left, but when the right does it, we should let the media get away with letting it slide because the right wing is just like that.

Lovely. :sarcasm:

I completely disagree in principle. If calling people sluts is unacceptable behavior, then we need to start enforcing this with the WORST offenders FIRST - i.e. don't persecute petty offenders when major criminals are on the loose.

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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 02:25 PM
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13. Like they snoozed when Limbaugh "joked"/gloated that "real Texans" were going to murder Sheehan:
Edited on Mon May-30-11 02:48 PM by Faryn Balyncd




....specifically, that "real Texans" were "putting on their camouflage gear" and "getting ready to go hunting" for Ms Sheehan and those others of us that he termed the "glorified beggars" in "the ditches" outside of Crawford.

(As one of those that Limbaugh labeled a "glorified beggar", I had the personal experience of hearing Limbaugh's homicidal gloat on his August 22, 2005 broadcast as I was returning from Camp Casey "in the ditches" outside Crawford.)

Here's an excerpt from Limbaugh's rant that the media ignored:




"How many of you could take a week or two off or whatever and hang around a ditch? I mean, where do these people work? First question I always ask: What do they do for a living? Where do they get their money? Donations, folks, donations. They're glad handlers, they're glorified beggars, they're down there raising money during all of this. At one point I saw today Sheehan's website is getting 25 grand a day. Now you got a bunch of caterers down there and Joan Baez is down there strumming out the tunes, but the Washington politicians are not joining them down there, and this is upsetting....

"The Texans are very patient people, but the real Texans are not the people in that ditch down there. REAL TEXANS are PUTTING ON THEIR CAMOUFLAGE GEAR and getting ready to go out there and GO HUNTING. you know, hunting season is coming up. At some point REAL TEXANS ARE GOING TO GET FED UP WITH WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE and it's going to be REAL FUN TO WATCH, IF YOU GET MY DRIFT, ...a-hem..."







http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Faryn%20Balyncd/86










:kick:










"Make them angry and stir up hostilities. The shriller you are, the easier it is to raise funds. That's the nature of the beast."


- - Terry Dolan, co-founder and chairman of the National Conservative Political Action Committee





"Perception is reality...

"Just keep stirring the pot, you never know what will come up."


- - Lee Atwater, former Chairman of the Republican National Committee







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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:22 PM
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30. Thank you. A few people seem to be missing the point in this
thread for some reason.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 04:38 PM
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14. and DU didn't criticize Glenn Beck, either.
we'd much rather attack liberals than conservatives.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:07 AM
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17. If DU didn't criticize Beck it's because they don't listen to Beck
and didn't know it.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-30-11 04:39 PM
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15. Many DUers would agree with Beck on this
I find that sadder than the media's failure to react.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:05 AM
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16. Many DUers would agree with Beck on this?...I'd suggest you put down the crack pipe
Sorry so many of you red-blooded boys don't like

seeing you're "slut-calling" privileges attacked

but DUers would NEVER call her that.

They may have criticized Sheehan

but they wouldn't agree with Beck on ANYTHING

and you know it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:24 AM
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19. You're in for a surprise.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 11:36 AM
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25. Thanks for the thread....There's a lot of responses on it and I looked only at
the subject lines because I don't have the time to read

every post, but did somebody actually call her a "slut"?

If they did, they should certainly have been deleted.


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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 12:23 PM
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31. Does 'media whore' count?
Reading between the lines is telling, too.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 01:03 PM
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32. I don't think so...
because it's "specific" and I hear

it being directed at men fairly often.

Don't get me wrong, I find all of

the gender-based slurs ugly

and I think it very nasty for someone

to use a term like that on a woman who's just

lost her son in a phoney war.

But no, it's not even nearly

as bad as "slut".



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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:09 AM
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18. Breaking News: The Media Leans Republican.
:eyes:
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 08:42 AM
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20. The good guys have standards. the bad guys just keep on rolling.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:18 AM
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22. And the bad guys are bleeding away sponsors and viewers
I'd rather be the people with higher standards because in the long run we will be the winners.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:00 AM
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21. Accusing someone of sexual immorality is a pretty common ...
...method of attacking a critic. It effectively changes the subject of the debate to something humans are naturally and instinctively interested in. So, how does Sheehan's alleged slutiness make the Iraq war a good idea?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 10:22 AM
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23. If we give progressives a free pass on using ignorant words we are no better than they are.
We could probably find hundreds of examples of the right-wing using racist, sexist, homophobic and/or other politically incorrect words. It's common place with them.

That doesn't mean it's ok for progressive to use these words or to let progressive slides when they do. I'd rather our people be held to higher standards because we are the better group of people.

And Beck HAS paid for the use of such ignorant words. He can't get a decent sponsor outside of these obscure companies and his ratings have dropped dramatically. Same with many of the other right-wing talk-show screeds.

We are better than the right-wing and I would think Ed Schultz would be the first to agree with that statement. He readily accepted the punishment because even HE knew it was wrong. I gives me much more respect for the guy knowing that although he can be human and make mistakes from time to time, he will hold himself accountable and recognize when he is wrong.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 11:39 AM
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26. Nice catch!
:thumbsup:
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-31-11 03:38 PM
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34. she's a Lefty, that's why
the right wing gets a pass from the media in most cases. They know it, that's why they try to own it all.
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