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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:15 PM
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Why is the Obama Team Embracing Hooverism?
Posted on July 7, 2011 by Mike
Chris Hayes had Gene Sperling, Director of the National Economic Council for President Obama, on while guest-hosting the Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell last night. Hayes played the clip that Krugman recently highlighted, where Obama said that the government’s budget is like a family’s budget that has to tighten in hard times and emphasized deficit reduction as a means to get confidence going to kick up the recovery, and asked Sperling to explain. Hayes also brought up the historical-low interest rates on Treasuries as a counter-argument to these points.

You’ll be happy to know that Sperling brought up that the government is, in fact, kind of like a family, that trillions on corporate balance sheets are a little bit because of a lack of confidence, especially on the deficit, and, my favorite, this, in response to Hayes bringing up the interest rate as the most sophisticated pricing instrument we have on government debt:

“well I think there’s a lot of factors that go into the interest rates right now. But there’s certain things you know that are just sound….any country anywhere that has its debt increasing as a percentage of its income creates doubts about its sustainability. That’s gotta discourage some people from feeling as good as the long-term investments…”

Wow. It is quite funny to watch Hayes’ jaw drop with a sense of horror when he realizes what he’s hearing from one of the key current architects of the Democratic economic platform:

video and more at link
http://rortybomb.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/why-is-the-obama-team-embracing-hooverism/
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:16 PM
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1. Because they suck?
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Thanks. I'll be here all week; don't forget to tip the waitress.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:44 PM
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11. Ba dum bump - *rim shot*
:applause:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:21 PM
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2. The banks are sticking it to the citizens of the entire Western world.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:26 PM
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5. Yeah. Why are governments everywhere allowing that? Nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:30 PM
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6. I wonder myself. I'd use my military before I'd lose sovereignty, as with Greece.
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:33 PM
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8. I keep waiting for governments to nationalize n take over the banks
Not sure why they are letting banks dictate the sale of assets and cuts on social programs with no input from voters or taxpayers.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:39 PM
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9. Iceland did, and they are the only country whose economy is
rebounding. They arrested some of their banksters, refused to bail them out, and replaced their government.

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:54 PM
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12. Watch the first 20-30 minutes. It'll tell you all you need to know:
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:01 PM
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13. That was kinda depressing
But kinda always wondered how if one "has" to work in order to feed, house and provide healthcare for themselves they could honestly consider themselves free. But that probably has plenty to do with my student loan statements ;). Thanks for the link!

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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 07:25 PM
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14. You're welcome! But I think that the link I posted started an hour or so in
but the beginning explains fractal banking and the whole money = debt, debt = money setup concocted by the Federal Reserve and global banking/ corporate interests. It's pretty fascinating: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:25 PM
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3. Neoliberalism seems to be a form of liberalism
that ALL the DCdems embrace.

I see this as the legacy of the 1990's. Papa Bush zigged to conservatism with a conscience
and Clinton zagged to corporation friendly liberalism. Only one of these presidents has a legacy in their party.






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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:26 PM
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4. They have no political philosophy and they're flying by the seat of their pants?
Either that or they want to outdo Bill Clinton and become the best republican administration of the past century.

I think we can pretty much kiss off the multi dimensional chess playing as a possibility.
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StarburstClock Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 05:32 PM
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7. They are conservatives who lack the courage to lead and change things.
A great "change" would be exiting Iraq and Afghanistan and creating and passing a debt consolidation bill that would allow people to get a govt loan at 5% to refinance and replace their huge credit debt. Ideas like these are common and would be very easy to implement.

Why aren't they? Conservatives are cowards who only look out for themselves.
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