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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:41 PM
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Hillary Clinton, please challenge Obama in the primary!
I think the results would be different this time.

Sorry, but cuts to SS and medicare is my breaking point and I am breaking from Obama.
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SugarShack Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:43 PM
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1. And it's not just you or dems...it's the voters breaking away! even repubs that voted for obama!
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:43 PM
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2. I think she is very tired. I know she seems indefatigable, but I
frankly don't see how she can give any more. We should be so lucky.
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:48 PM
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7. The cuts to SS and Medicare scrare the crap outa both sides
And they would vote for someone who would protect SS and Medicare.

obama is an absolute idiot if he thinks he will win re-election supporting cuts to SS and medicare.

A real fucking idiot.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:43 PM
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3. Do you know any political history?
When you primary a sitting president they lose, and the opponent, in this case the bat shit insane republican, wins. So unless you want President Michelle Bachmann, I would not be calling for anyone to primary the President.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:54 PM
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14. Whatever happened to
"so you want Sarah Palin?"
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:04 PM
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19. Bachman is the Third Way Boogeyman of the week. nt
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:37 AM
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39. I just haven't heard anything from Sarah "You Betcha" Palin in some time
so I figure she's probably not going to run.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:54 PM
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15. We're getting a batshit republican anyways. At least our party can purify ranks this way.
What is more wrong... voting for something or not voting for something. In this case a republican or a republican in democratic clothing. Which is worse? They're the same. And Machmann wouldn't win, Romney may though... This is coming from a guy who suffered through his MA administrations... a turd is a turd is a turd. They will both equally harm this country.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:14 PM
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31. Does anyone know the answer to this...
If there is a third party candidate that happens to win enough electoral votes so that it would prevent either of the other candidates from obtaining the majority needed to win, what happens?
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:19 PM
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33. Goes to the House.
http://www.270towin.com/blog/electoral-college/what-happens-if-there-is-a-tie-in-the-electoral-college

Each state gets one vote, winner of the House vote gets the Presidency.

Same in the Senate to choose the VP.

Note the possibility of a mixed-election result.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:45 PM
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4. And boom goes the dynamite....that is what this has always been about....PUMA's getting...
..there next day in the sun
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:04 PM
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:06 PM
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24. Oh, ok.
According to you join date you missed 08. The same faces are doing the same whining.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:45 PM
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5. Why do you think Hillary would not want to restructure SS?


She and her husband certainly wanted to when he was in office.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:46 PM
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6. Might I suggest we see if anything really comes out the negotiations....
...prior to making rash decisions?
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larwdem Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:06 PM
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22. well
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:11 PM by larwdem
At this point it does not matter what he wants to cut the republicans will have every one believing it was the Democrats that want to cut s.s.


edit for spelling
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:48 PM
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8. That just won't happen.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 10:49 PM by Fuzz
Edit: And do you think she's significantly left of Obama enough to matter?
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:49 PM
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9. Yes, DLC Hillary will consult with Bill on how to cut SS & Medicare.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 10:51 PM by ClarkUSA
"The Pact Between Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich
Two powerful foes secretly plot to reform Social Security and Medicare":

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2008/05/29/the-pact-between-bill-clinton-and-newt-gingrich
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:50 PM
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10. Heh....well played.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:50 PM
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11. lol
:rofl:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:51 PM
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12. Why would we want a DLCer? Enough with corporate candidates!
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:52 PM
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13. Is this a joke?
Like Hillary isn't Obama in a pant suit? Her and her husband helped start the Koch--funded DLC and headed "The Third Way."
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:54 PM
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16. wow.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:03 PM
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17. You really think DLC Chair Hillary will treat SS any better?
They are cut from the same cloth.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:05 PM
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20. Lol
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:05 PM
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21. I hope that you're wearing kevlar.
The attacks will be virulent.

:D
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:09 PM
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28. I bet you search for threads that contain the word "Hillary" and/or "Clinton".
That's fine. I'm just sayin'...
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:23 PM
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35. Nope, I have better things to do.
If I happen to see one I comment, but I don't search.

It just feels good to see that what many of us predicted has come to fruition: That Obama would disappoint the most those who worked hardest to elect him, the party's left.

:7
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:42 PM
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36. Yeah. OK.
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Youth Uprising Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:06 PM
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23. No, thanks.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:06 PM
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25. self delete n/t
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:07 PM by bitchkitty
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:07 PM
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26. What? I thought we hated DLC Democrats.
Did something change when I wasn't looking?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:07 PM
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27. No, please don't.
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 11:07 PM by NYC Liberal
Signed,

Hillary supporter from 07/08.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:10 PM
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29. she is probably backing obama all the way. no difference. nt
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:13 PM
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30. Hillary? How about a liberal rather than another third way neo-lib?
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Pisces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:15 PM
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32. I guess that is why Obama has more donors at this time than he did last election. You people are
joke. Hillary isn't running, Obama will win re-election and all of you naysayers can go under the rock you crawled out from.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:20 PM
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34. Same sell out, different face.
I don't get the corporatist shuffle mentality. It is like everyone believes in the formula and the question just has to be individual execution.

Think about the problems and think about what one would do from the other on those issues.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:44 PM
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37. When did he cut SS and Medicare? HOW did I miss that?
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:01 AM
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38. Hillary Clinton has far too much class to do that.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 11:40 AM
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40. The 2008 primaries are over. Flamebait!! n/t
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