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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:27 PM Original message |
How do you feel about jailing dads who are behind on child support in this economy? |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. And I thought debtor's prisons were banned. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. They are banned, but people can still be imprisoned for contempt of court |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. people who don't have the ability to pay are being jailed too |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Women who can barely get by |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I'd like to see some verifiable evidence of that, please |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. It's not so much the laws, it is that they are enforced improperly. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. So, the charge in your example was actually contempt of court |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. It was the failing to pay money that he was charged with contempt. |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Hell, I was sentenced to 10 days in jail for not paying a speeding ticket in time |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. at least you didn't lose your job over it. |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I did lose my job, a temp job in an office |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. What was the actual charge for which you were convicted and jailed? |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I don't recall, it was over 15 years ago |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. I can look up a 15-year-old case in my jurisdication (San Diego County, CA) online |
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arcane1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Interesting... how? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-11 12:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
63. Go to the "Court Index" link at the San Diego County Superior Court's Web site |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. Jail someone and they lose their job, and future income potential. Way to go, people. |
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chemp (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. with a good job- yes |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think everyone that makes under 16k a year should be jailed |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. Garnish their wages... |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's a stupid idea regardless of the economy. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
8. The same way I'd feel about it in ANY economy: I'm against it. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yes, they should be jailed. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I'm sorry for your situation. |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. This was in the '70s and I got a lawyer to send him a letter |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. I had that experience too, back in the mid 70s to early 80s... |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-09-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
64. well |
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RZM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. It's a tough one |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Here's the issue |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. no one is saying that fathers shouldn't be responsible |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. The problem with that argument |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. maybe dad whipped it out before his job was sent overseas. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Dear Lord, I agree with you there 100% |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 09:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
61. The woman is usually able to go on welfare though if unemployed |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
15. can't get blood from a turnip |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. there is no logic to the current system |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. sadly, that is the part I DO understand |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. sure |
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justabob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. agreed |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Once Dad gets out |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. Put them to work filling potholes or picking up litter in the parks |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. Garnish their wages (if they have any), intercept their income tax refund |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
31. What's wrong with seizing assets instead? |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
34. Jailing them will get them a mugshot which will be posted on mugshot sites and end up on Google's... |
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Rainbowreflect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. I actually worked in child support enforcement and it is not simple. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. in what state? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. He should inform court of changed circumstances, if this occurred. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 07:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Really |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 04:42 PM Response to Original message |
42. The policies and trail of events are regressive |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. thoughtful policy doesn't happen because companies make $$$$$ |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
44. so maybe a determination should be made |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. ayep |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
47. the US must lead the world in reasons to imprison its citizens. |
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xphile (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
49. I know someone who is over 20 thousand dollars behind in child support |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. I've been there. I definitely do not support it |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
52. My father split out of the blue one day when I was 4 and contributed $180 total for 2 children |
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southernyankeebelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
53. Putting them in jail so we can support them while in jail. What good is that. |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. I don't support it even in better economic times... |
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21st Century FDR (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
56. They sure as hell can't support their kids in prison. |
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Philippine expat (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
57. If they involuntarily lost their job then no jail time |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
58. Some probably should be jailed. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 09:18 PM Response to Original message |
59. I am against this in any economy. Why is jail the answer for everything? |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
60. This Country is hopeless! We put the wrong people in prison. And why? Because we can. |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-08-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
62. Every situation is different. Your question is too broad. n/t |
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