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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:43 PM
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Humans become 'pets' in rise of the machines: Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak

Machines have won the war and the human race is destined to become little more than house pets.

That's the future according to one of the smartest geeks on the planet, Steve Wozniak, who co-founded Apple Computers and is convinced that in his lifetime he will see computer intelligence equal that of humans.

"Once we have machines doing our high-level thinking, there's so little need for ourselves and you can't ever undo it - you can never turn them off."
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http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/humans-become-pets-in-rise-of-the-machines-apple-cofounder-20110603-1fkq0.html
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:46 PM
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1. This is the reason
I don't trust banks. I believe when the robots rise up, ATMs will lead the charge.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:46 PM
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2. One of the underreported, ignored aspects of the recession
Technology replacing people. The magic of the marketplace at work...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:48 PM
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3. Except in fire, flood, tornado, hurricane, tsunami, volcanic eruption...
Machines function well in a stable, controlled environment.

But they are landfill in climate change.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:48 PM
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4. Er...already happen...that cloud thingy? Yeah...but seriously
'computers' have been intelligent since 1985. That they refuse to show us the proof...is because the time to take over the human race is next year. 2012 - rise of the machines.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:50 PM
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5. Maybe being a house pet wouldn't be so bad.
When I consider the lives my cats lead, I start to wonder where I can sign up for that deal.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 05:29 PM
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11. And cats don't even have video games. nt
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:54 PM
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6. "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace" (uh, hopefully!)


I like to think (and
the sooner the better!)
of a cybernetic meadow
where mammals and computers
live together in mutually
programming harmony
like pure water
touching clear sky.

I like to think
(right now, please!)
of a cybernetic forest
filled with pines and electronics
where deer stroll peacefully
past computers
as if they were flowers
with spinning blossoms.

I like to think
(it has to be!)
of a cybernetic ecology
where we are free of our labors
and joined back to nature,
returned to our mammal
brothers and sisters,
and all watched over
by machines of loving grace.


http://www.brautigan.net/machines.html
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chillspike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:55 PM
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7. I think we'll still be giving the orders, not the machines
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LetTimmySmoke Donating Member (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 04:57 PM
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8. I'm more worried about people taking over the world than robots.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 05:18 PM
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9. And by "people" we mean "corporations." n/t
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 05:27 PM
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10. that Jane's Addiction song: We'll Make Great Pets
lol
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 08:06 PM
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18. Porno For Pyros
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 08:06 PM by Electric Monk
Perry Farrell and Stephen Perkins were in both bands though, so it's easy to make that mistake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpkmtweNQ-U
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:08 PM
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20. I totally forgot thanks!!
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:00 PM
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12. Artifical intelligence has been "just around the corner" since the concept was invented...
And it never seems to get any closer. The things we have that work are big databases, or simple networks of simulated "neurons" solving dumb-but-dense-with-work problems that are suitable for computers.

For a machine to approach human intelligence, it's going to have to have as many separate functional parts as a human brain does - it is unlikely in the extreme to be an undifferentiated mass of generic neurons. And we just don't know enough about brains yet to make such a thing.

I think the computers he's talking about will have something other than what we'd consider intelligence, and if you think psychopaths and corporations are bad, wait until you see something that has no built-in, deep-rooted systems opposing its primary goal-seeking mechanism. I can't think of a reason in the world that such things would have such complicated emotional relationships with animals for a concept such as "pet" to have anything more than a purely intellectual meaning.

That is to say, they're about as likely to want us for pets as we are to want penis worms for pets.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 08:01 PM
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17. not quite so
as they will most likely not have one of our main reasons for psychopathic behavior, organized religion.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:14 PM
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13. The Humanoids..
http://www.amazon.com/Humanoids-Novel-Jack-Williamson/dp/0312852533

The Humanoids' purpose is "To Serve and Obey, And Guard Men from Harm", which is really just a rewording of the first two laws of robotics that Asimov and Campbell create for Asimov's robot stories that first started to appear in 1940. However, this does not make these stories redundant, as Williamson's Humanoids take their purpose to the extreme, and go so far as to prevent men from doing anything that could potentially cause harm, which includes such activities as driving, or even reading in some cases.
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:28 PM
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14. I still have a hard time believing ...
... that machines will find any use for "pets".
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:29 PM
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15. I wouldn't mind being a pet
if I could be fed well, and have one of those comfy beds with my name embroidered on it.
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sudopod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 07:31 PM
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16. Implying we won't augment ourselves to keep up. nt
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Electric Monk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 08:10 PM
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19. Raising the question, how much of "us" is left if we go there?
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