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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:16 AM Original message |
Watching Obama on CSPAN. He just said he's open to SS, Medicare, Medicaid "Changes" |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Look both words up in the dictionary. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Don't be absurd. I've been following Obama on Entitlements for Two years |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
107. Does "trim" |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. When speaking in relation to costs, what else could changes mean? |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #4 |
35. as in raising the cap would Strengthen the Programs |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. That is not even an option right now. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
56. What "changes" that are beneficial do you think can be passed and what would have to be traded to |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. "leaner, meaner" government. I don't want a 'meaner' government... n/t |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I don't want a leaner one either. I just want a more equitably funded one. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Agreed. This is incredibly disturbing. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Of course that is what he means. Only the willfully blind deny it. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. There are many of those on DU |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
98. Haiti has a lean, mean government. n/t |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. And then there's Somalia, the teabagger's paradise. n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:40 PM Response to Reply #98 |
132. Haiti has higher government spending as part of GDP than the US |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
135. I heard that too! It was an UNFORTUNATE choice of words on Obama's part. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
7. "I'm prepared to take on significant heat from my party ..." |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. There you have it folks. He just said he wants to extend payroll tax holiday again too... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yes, heard that as well. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #11 |
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merbex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I am so done with this passing for being 'statesmanlike' |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Yes. Cutting SS doesn't reduce the deficit so why do it? |
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merbex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. There is NO OTHER thing to do except ask yourself |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
109. Some far off generation |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Defunding it to run it into the ground making way for privitazation. This is surely a compromise |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
90. Sure it does |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
108. Was wondering that too |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #108 |
134. Because it does contribute to the deficit, or at least it will in coming years |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. He's been preparing for this since he was elected, probably before. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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CrossChris (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. I feel like this is an experiment in how far the Dem base will follow a Repub with a D by his name. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
49. Yep. |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
51. I think you actually nailed it there. n/t |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
106. Boo-yah |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. He'd better be prepared to take a hefty dose of abandonment. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. So I guess that means we won't like the changes. |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yep. I feel ill. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
60. Exactly, what else could it mean. n/t |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
74. what else could that mean |
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muffin1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
101. Yep. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
102. He'd better be prepared to be a one term president too then |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
117. He doesn't give a shit about his party |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
127. Does he know he can kiss his 2nd term goodbye if he backs these 'changes?' |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
9. Unless he means more people will get more benefits....... |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. I'm ready to relocate to Canada myself. nt |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Huge waiting list and tough to emigrate there |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
54. I agree on the relocation part. I'm totally numb. IF the President meant more people |
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Ichingcarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
10. Ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes (Turn and face the strain) |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
20. All those programs were designed to be "governed" - that's the job |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. It almost sounds like it is more important to the president |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Wow, I've never gotten *that* feeling before. |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. "making sure"... "Social Security"... "is strengthened". n/t |
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PoliticAverse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #33 |
52. "My experience with John Boehner has been good". n/t |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
112. "Destroy village"..."to save it". n/t |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Did you not hear him say if they don't give he won't sign a deal? nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Yes. Right up there with "public option" and "out of Iraq." |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Sigh. nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Brilliant riposte. Let's see: history vs. what? |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Honestly, WinkyDink. Put me down all you want, but I just don't |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #57 |
131. Oh, and don't forget "end the Bush tax cuts for those making over $250K" |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
138. A) He was talking about from the current ZERO revenue position |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I would suggest he and his family are not giving up anything |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
50. But he said he could very well afford to pay more taxes. Haven't |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
62. It's not what is said that matters |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. And nothing has been DONE yet. We'll ALL have more gray hair |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
24. Chip Reid should crawl back under his rock. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
25. "No one is talking about raising taxes" |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Of course not |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
61. Good, he should have further made the point that the middle class |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
136. shame he wasn't able to understand how that point is rather important. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
29. He said "meaningful" changes that preserve the integrity of the services |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
38. He just said he is going to piss off his own party. Open your eyes. Outrage will not be postponed |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
53. AND they're going to piss off the Republican Party. Don't fucking tell |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. OK so don't be proactive. W/e. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #58 |
66. What are YOU doing to be proactive? Please share and perhaps I |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #66 |
81. I've been calling the White House, my reps, and trying to alert everyone |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. I have been, too -- and I've been posting about it and encouraging |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
146. Outrage will not be postponed by facts |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. He has proposed further suspending COLA's which is basically the same as cutting bennies. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
55. Do we really know he has done that? (I won't be a bitch and |
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Erose999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
85. Link here: |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:03 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Well it's the "according to sources" that makes me roll my eyes, but |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
113. He said he is considering |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #39 |
92. COLAs were never suspended |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Could be wrong, but I think the talk of doing something with prescription drug costs... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. Ah, thanks for the explanation. So, maybe Dean was referring to |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. You're welcome, it was a great idea, but would be very difficult to do now IMHO. n/t |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
77. Sorry, this lack of specifics as to what he is advocating is a tactic |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I do NOT think no one should discuss or speak their own minds, |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
126. I agree... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. It's worth a lot! I'm usually standing alone! |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #130 |
147. While I do disagree with the President on some... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. +! |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
103. O M G +1000 |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
123. Bravo/a! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
110. LOL |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
37. Obama's wrong. He's not open to those changes. I know b/c I read it on DU. |
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abelenkpe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
40. Thought it was just chained CPI |
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divvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
42. Oh now you've done it.......The tweed hats will call us whiners again |
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mfcorey1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
43. And he also said that social securty did not cause the deficit. nt |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. he was careful to say not a "primary" driver. Bullshit, Doesn't contribute at all |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
93. Again, yes it will |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
45. "It is hard to persuade people to do hard stuff that entails trimming benefits" |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
47. Weasel words. n/t |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Well chosen weasel words. nt |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
64. Imagine all you want; improving systems, making them rational |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Um--hmmmm. That's called the sugar-coating on the bitter pill of "compromise." |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Since when is 'compromise' a bitter pill? |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Depends on the compromise. Some compromises have lead |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
100. What if the cannibals just eat our legs? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. There are people that would defend the status quo even as they are dragged out of bed |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. Yep. n/t |
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ProfessionalLeftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
68. semantics are meaningless at this point - he can call them whatever he wants |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
70. changes.... |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
71. Talking about the infrastructure bank ... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
80. Medicare and Medicaid cost controls are already in HCR, and we need more |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Obama ran on raising the cap. That increases the revenue |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. There's this quaint little debating club called Congress |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #82 |
91. Snowball chance in hell those revenue raisers are being considerec |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
122. yeah the only thing he mentioned he is considering is |
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Broderick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
84. right |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
86. It's this simple: we must endorse a primary challenger. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Oh for God's sake |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. If you think this is going to be a "cost control"... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. We don't "suddenly" need cost controls we have since the 1990s |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
111. Baloney. n/t |
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mr clean (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. +1 |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #86 |
114. I will support a primary challenger |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #86 |
118. Not. Happening. |
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JackDragna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #118 |
140. Perhaps not. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. Better get busy creating a challenger I guess. |
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supraTruth (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
115. Why woN'T he even mention the need to raise OR ELIMINATE the payroll income CAP? |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. SD |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
116. The DU version of "death panels" ... Obama plans to kill granny!!!! |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. No he is just putting up important programs on the chopping block. |
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Liberalynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. He is not the worst President ever |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. You attempt to deflect debate with your silly hyperbole. |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. So your point is that there can be no discussion of "changes" to |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Any changes, in this context, relate to reducing the deficit, or cuts |
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jtown1123 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #119 |
133. the only way to cut these programs is to have the Dems do it. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #119 |
141. "PROGRAMS" and "ENTITLEMENT BENEFITS" are two |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #119 |
143. "Programs" WILL be cut if the debt ceiling is not raised. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
137. I don't think he would insult the intelligence of the public, |
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Palmer Eldritch (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
139. "I can only imagine they are cuts" That's your problem. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #139 |
142. If I understand your meaning, thank you! n/t |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-11 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
144. Well we are not. |
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