Would you be happy if Repubs agree to Obama's "grand plan"?

kentuck

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:22 AM
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Would you be happy if Repubs agree to Obama's "grand plan"?

We would get the loopholes closed and they would get $3 trillion in cuts in Medicare and Social Security. Would that be a successful negotiation?

Where do you stand on the extension of the Bush taxcuts? Would you support a permanent extension? I'm sure that is what the Republicans want more than anything else right now.

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newfie11

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:25 AM
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1. no on both counts.

We lose both ways.

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customerserviceguy

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:27 AM
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2. I don't think the plan

is terribly 'grand'. On the other hand, clearly we need to avoid a default.

I see the 14th Amendment remedy as the only way out if a solution is not reached by conventional means.

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Warren Stupidity

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:32 AM
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3. hell no

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ThomWV

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:33 AM
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4. Hell No!

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Vinca

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:34 AM
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5. No and no.

If any of them were serious about the debt those tax cuts never would have been extended. It's just a game to them . . . they get their paychecks and perks, we get the shaft.

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rucky

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:36 AM
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6. I'm re-thinking the effects of not raising the debt ceiling.

and am not entirely convinced it'll be as damaging to anyone but cheap-money addicted banksters

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Creideiki

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:44 AM
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9. Add .5% to 1.5% to the interest rate right out of the bat.

Ratchet up inflation during a weak economy where wages for the bottom 99% haven't moved in decades and you have started the duplication of the stagflation period. It's not fun.

So, yeah. Not raising the debt ceiling is a Bad Thing(TM).

Not recognizing the need for Keynesian stimulus is a Stupid Thing (TM).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzMqm2TwgE is a primer on what's going on. He doesn't go into depth--it's 2:15 of your life--but he explains the basics of where we are right now. The course correction becomes obvious.

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nc4bo

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:50 AM
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10. Glad I just used 2:15 of my life to watch that.

He doesn't take long to get to the point does he?

Thanks for posting it.

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Creideiki

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Tue Jul-12-11 10:17 PM
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14. Now to turn it into 2 to 4 word slogans

Because that's all most people can focus on. Then repeat them over and over and over.

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nc4bo

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:38 AM
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7. No. No. No.

:wtf: is the problem with people paying taxes? :wtf: is wrong with the wealthiest people and businesses paying their fair share of those taxes? According to numerous polls, a majority of Americans have no problem with it either yet, we continue to cater to these a-holes and get exactly what in return? All it tells me is that those in charge have their own agenda and only care about their agenda and it crosses all and is not limited by party lines.

Oh yea, hell no.

:nuke:

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TheKentuckian

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Tue Jul-12-11 06:41 AM
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8. That would be a negative

The "Grand Deal" is now probably the ultimate, though.

Now they are trying to get the lower Biden deal with no revenue thinking that if we'd take 3.5 trillion with 800 billion to a trillion in revenues then we can do 2.5 in just cuts.

We are fucked.

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JoePhilly

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Tue Jul-12-11 07:12 AM
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11. They get 3 trillion in cuts to Medicare and Social Security???????

Where do you get that ... got a credible link for that claim?

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scheming daemons

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Tue Jul-12-11 07:38 AM
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12. Obama knows, like I do, that the Repubs will NEVER agree

That's why it is such an effective bluff by Obama.

He gets to claim the political middle without ever giving anything up... because the GOP will never agree to ANY plan that has ANY tax increases or closed loopholes.

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blindpig

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Tue Jul-12-11 07:52 AM
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13. Obama outflanks the Republicans on the right again.

That's the 'grand plan'.

This is where 'the lesser of two evils' has brought us.

A billion in campaign funds? No problemo.

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JonTheGreat

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Tue Jul-12-11 10:19 PM
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15. Hell no! n/t

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