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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:35 PM Original message |
So the Pukes caved and Obama looks like a brilliant strategist, outsmarted all of them: |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Excellent summary. Recommended. |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is never a win when a Democratic president wants to cut Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. You still don't get it? |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. He did not bluff. If the Repubs had agreed to the big deal, he would have gotten his M/M/SS cuts. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Would have could have should have... |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. You can believe the N-dimension chess theories. I will believe Occam's razor. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
73. Unless he knew cold that they'd never go for it |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #11 |
92. ROFL. yeah, hereally wantedto fuck us all over, good thing those brave republicans stopped him! |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Don't ask. I've been saying that since yesterday. LOL!!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Sure thing! LOL!!! n/t |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
48. LOVE the pic! |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. It's all about the presentation! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. This happens over and over |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. As Bill Maher said when Bin Laden was killed |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Literally LOL here! |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. Bwahahahahahaaa |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. You don't play poker do you? He had no intentions of cutting any of it..n/t |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
89. You're right of course although some people here will never admit it.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
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Ineeda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. You (and I) can soon say... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
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polmaven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. Ooo, ooo! |
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monmouth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. Me too....and he got Bin Laden..n/t |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. There was a photo of him watching Bin Laden getting got. He was in an office. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. Gave the order, and then turned on the teevee, while someone else "got".... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I do not hate anyone. Accuracy is the thing. Authorizing an event and |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Oh equine fecal matter! |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. And you seem reluctant to see that there is a difference between |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #66 |
88. In the real world there is no difference... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. Your last line says it -> here, I'll paste it for you |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. You made up the part about 'danger' meaning something... |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I understand where you are coming from now, |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I was considering ignore as well... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. He outflanked them. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
72. outflanked them? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:11 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Wrong... they didn't get jack shit |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #74 |
98. The best part is that by the time they caved, the Republicans had been |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 02:16 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. He offered them a 87-13% deal they couldn't refuse, and they did!! |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. correction: the offer was 83-17% nt |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. Didn't I tell everyone to calm down |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. Lawrence O'Donnell called it. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. I watched part of that last night, yep, Lawrence O'Donnell did call it, had a |
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HipChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
61. 5D chess... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. He's a complex strategist, I'm learning that more and more. n/t |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. Yes, he did :) |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. "...AND he also agreed to cut Medicare, Medicaid, and SS..." |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. There was never going to be any cuts |
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Tennessee Gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Exactly right! |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I'm sorry, but this whole theory makes no sense. |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. This is how politics has been done for 2000 years |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Really. I'd love to see some other examples of politicians offering |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Study Chicago Politics at some point |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. It's classic rope-a-dope. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. I'm going to calmly back out of this alternative universe. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. Okay but if he manages to raise the debt ceiling without cuts, you owe him a what what. |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
76. If he manages to raise the debt ceiling without cuts |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 02:38 AM Response to Reply #76 |
79. It's like he looked at them and said, okay, do you want to do this the hard way or the easy way? |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
43. The President knows how to count and he knew there were no votes for that in the Senate. |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Exactly! That logic is too convoluted and ridiculous to believe. That won't stop the Obama fawning. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
71. Then I would love to negotiate with you |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Brilliant! |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
19. Okay... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
59. LOL!!! |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. Are you living in some alternative universe? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Keep rooting against Obama. |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Forgot to put in my original post: WARNING TO ALL PROFESSIONAL HYPERVENTILATORS...etc. |
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former9thward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Your post says a deal is done. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. +1. I'd be very much surprised if this is anywhere near "over". n/t |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. Yeah really |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
25. I will break out the champagne.. |
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LonePirate (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. The People's Budget is the only good deal presented so far. That needs to be Obama's position. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. +1. n/t |
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Taitertots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
42. Hurray, continued spending cuts and no tax increases for rich people... |
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JonTheGreat (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 02:42 AM Response to Reply #42 |
80. This is what no one is talking about. n/t |
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unionworks (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
45. now is a good time |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. I hope everyone is watching Lawrence O'D....nt |
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Wait Wut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Just walked in the door... |
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TNLib (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
67. I wonder what the real story is: I bet it goes something like this |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
70. TRMS: Rachel confirmed my post, she had the white Republican white flag flying!!!! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Maddow will have to join Dr. Dean under the bus |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-11 09:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. How do you mean? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 02:48 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Read the past week or two. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 04:44 AM Response to Original message |
83. Both sides got what they wanted going into 2012 except the Teabaggers |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 05:38 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Bingo! |
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divvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
84. so, what if the "pukes" said YES? |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 05:45 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. There was no way they could. n/t |
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VeryConfused (725 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
87. The President also outwitted the PF that came out of this |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
91. I believe that the President stands by his words |
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Islandlife (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
94. Is that really what happened? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Raising the debt ceiling = doing the right thing in a dire emergency... |
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