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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:29 AM
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There's a Job Opening In Barker, New York
Barker clerk quits over gay marriage

Laura Fotusky had a decision to make: God or her job?

In the end, the Barker town clerk said it was no contest. God won.

So, Fotusky is resigning her position because she said she cannot and will not issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Her resignation is effective July 21, three days before New York's law allowing same sex couples to marry goes into effect.

In New York, municipal clerks issue and sign marriage licenses — sometimes, they may even perform the ceremony — and that's where Fotusky found herself in conflict. New York's new definition of a marriage includes same-sex couples and she doesn't believe that is what God wants.

"I believe that God designed marriage as a divine institution to protect our families and our culture and our society, and so it goes against his plan," she said Tuesday outside Town of Barker Hall in Castle Creek. "He was the designer. It was his plan. It's his way to provide for the human family, and so I believe that it's up to God if he wants to redefine marriage."

http://www.theithacajournal.com/article/20110712/NEWS01/107120379/Barker-clerk-quits-over-gay-marriage?odyssey=mod%7Cnewswell%7Ctext%7CLocal%20News%7Cp
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:32 AM
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1. hope she likes it in the unemployment line.
Most places you don't collect unemployment if you voluntarily quit.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:32 AM
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2. I don't think GOD won - just some Christo-fascist preacher
that has convinced Fotusky that her GOD is a GOD of hate.

It is long past time that the state get out of the marriage business.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:34 AM
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4. Marriage is a civil issue, not a religious one.
You want to turn this over to the churches?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:41 AM
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6. my opinion - only an opinion is that marriage falls in both camps
and the state has used marriage laws as a way enforce social policy for a long time. At the same time the religious see marriage as a sacrament etc.
I can understand the reason for the state to know if two people have some kind of a shared living arrangement - almost like a company merger.
My feeling is that there be a registry of sorts for domestic partnerships civilly.
What then happens to a couple religiously I don't care.

I know I am on the edge on this and the chances of anything changing is pretty much zilch.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:48 AM
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7. I understand your view - but the problem is the legal rights.
When Joe goes to visit his partner Pete in the hospital and can't see him because they aren't "legally" a couple, that's when this sort of thing breaks down.

I do believe we should have marriage licenses and civil unions to declare who is "legally" married, but the state should not be determining which folks should marry. After you have your license, then you choose civil ceremony or to deal with the churches.

Further, if churches are able to discriminate against who joins the church (and who they marry), I don't think they should qualify for tax-exempt status. That is an area that really needs to be looked at. Maybe they should be classified as schools are, private churches could call their own shots and public churches (tax exempt status) would be subject to all civil rights laws. Food for thought ...
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:55 AM
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8. The civil registry would get people the marital rights
and any religious ceremony should be separate from the civil registry.
Religious ceremonies should not also be civil registries which they currently are.
You get married in the church, you still have to register with the state.
The only requirements civilly should be that the parties are of age and competent.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 10:17 AM
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10. Sounds good to me. nt
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 08:44 AM
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9. Here is the view of William Bradford of the Plymouth Colony on marriage
"May 12 was the first marriage in this place which, according to the laudable custom of the Low Countries, in which they had lived, was thought most requisite to be performed by the magistrate, as being a civil thing, upon which many questions about inheritances do depend, with other things most proper to their cognizance and most consonant to the Scriptures (Ruth iv) and nowhere found in the Gospel to be laid on the ministers as a part of their office. "

This is from his journal.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:32 AM
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3. You could hear her say "Neener, neener" as she left the building...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-11 07:35 AM
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5. I'd prefer to see town and county clerks refuse to
issue marriage licenses to heterosexual couples until marriage was available to all. Now, that would be a good protest move.

As for Ms. Fotusky, SEE YA!
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