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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:57 PM Original message |
Hartmann just announced that Dayton caved completely |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. From what I heard on the news, he agreed to a budget with no increased tax revenue |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Or, IOW he gave the fascist legislature everything they wanted |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Yes. We must reverse the disaster that was 2010, both |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. I've heard this earlier today as Minnesota Public Radio has been covering it for hours. |
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tsuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. The problem is that Dayton has a conscience, the Roopublicon have greed. nt |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is what happens when Republicans are continually allowed to frame every issue. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Which is not going to change until we take a few hundred of their |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Not necessarily |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 05:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You're missing the big picture |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 09:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. You nailed it. People have been crowing that Obama is finally "using the bully pulpit." |
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FLAprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
40. We controlled the framing of issues in 2006 and 2008. We should be able to do it again. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Here's the deal: Republicans gained control of both houses of |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Oh, sorry, thanks for playing |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Oh, I'm wide awake. I have been for decades. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Well Stated...Elections Have Consequences... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I will be working as hard as I can to make that turnaround |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. It's The Quiet Force Of 2012... |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. I think it's eminently doable. Some of my DFL friends |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Elections do have consequences as does choosing not to vote. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 04:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. It Looks Like He Had Few Options... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Success in the recall elections here will go a long way to set the stage for the Walker recall. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice... eom |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Certainly, and so you should be ready and willing to accept the consequences of that choice. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I don't think there is anything noble about not voting... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Me neither, but some "claim" not to vote because both parties are the same, |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. You keep repeating that 'democrats sat on their hands to |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Are you in Minnesota? Do you work in the party here? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I have family in Minnesota. You are not in any position to tell me |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. And I have family in California. I'm no longer involved in |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. And I'll give, as I always do, your suggestions, all the consideration |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. "Dayton imposed three conditions for his acceptance." |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. Not really. Not everything. It's not great, but there are some things. |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I'll go out on a limb and say the Republicans tell him to go pound sand. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Which is why I'm pretty sure this will be re-enacted at the Fed level |
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Ragnarok (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. That is my fear as well. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Hard to say, really. The Republicans are getting it from their |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
17. NYT: Gov agree to budget terms proposed by Republican lawmakers...but with several new conditions. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. I think he should've waited it out. When the beer totally ran |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. It's like the Gilded Age all over again. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
36. Fortunately he is wrong |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 09:09 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Sounds like Obama on the Bush tax cuts |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-15-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. This is nothing like Obama's caves |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-14-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. That State is a mess |
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