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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:40 PM
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TSA takes first step toward 'trusted travel' program
Source: cnn.com

After hinting for months that he would start a "trusted traveler" program to expedite screening at airport checkpoints, Transportation Security Administration chief John Pistole took his first step in that direction Thursday, announcing a pilot project for passengers who voluntarily release certain information about themselves.

The pilot project initially will be small, limited to a select group of travelers and to people already enrolled in existing programs run by border officials.

Nonetheless, the travel industry and some politicians hailed it as a major change of philosophy that eventually could have a major impact on airport screening, diverting security from known individuals and focusing attention on unknown travelers and suspected terrorists.

The TSA disclosed few details about the inner workings of the program. But industry officials briefed by the TSA said eligible participants will get to forgo some of the banalities of checkpoint searches -- such as removing shoes and jackets, and taking computers from carry-on bags.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/07/14/tsa.trusted.traveler/index.html



Some flying pigs are more equal than others.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 02:54 PM
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1. And this is how they plan to institute a National ID card. (nt)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:37 PM
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2. Subdermal RF-ID chip...eom
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:41 PM
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3. Now we're ranking citizens on the scale of whether they have "terrorist tendencies"
Edited on Fri Jul-15-11 03:42 PM by kenny blankenship
in the judgement of some Alphabet Agency's database mining computer.

The Police State creeps in on little cat feet. And sometimes it gallops.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:52 PM
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5. More importantly, this kind of whitelisting is *really bad* security.
A smart and/or well-funded would-be terrorist can get on this whitelist just as easily (if not moreso) than you or I could. Or a not-so-smart or well-funded terrorist could kidnap the family of someone on the list and tell them to carry a package on the plane or they'll start receiving body parts in the mail. This is not at all well thought out. And given that it comes from John Piss-hole at the most odious of the 3-letter abominations, that fact really does not surprise me.

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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:48 PM
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4. They are afraid that the outrage, now being expressed
in the legislatures of many states AND in Congress, with a bi-partisan bill there now under discussion, will finally force an end to these abusive practices.

I hope they don't think this will diminish the outrage. I imagine it may only add to it.

They lied last Fall also about changing the rules regarding children, a lie that was exposed on the floor of Congress when Rep. Chaffetz, assuming the rules HAD changed, referred to the TSA's treatment of the 6 year-old girl as a violation of their own rules. The TSA responded that there were no such rules, causing Chaffetz to express even more outrage that Congress had been deceived.

There is no fixing a police state once it gets started, it simply has to be stopped completely.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 03:56 PM
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6. They don't give two shits about outrage from you or me.
They are trying to pacify the airlines and the airlines' biggest customers at the expense of the "security" forced on the rest of us. Somehow it's supposed to be impossible to be a terrorist *and* get onto this whitelist? Insanity. But I think you are right it will not diminish outrage at the TSA - it will almost definitely increase it.



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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:01 PM
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7. So when will they apply this 'trusted travel' to cars and public places
of protest...he asks...

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:02 PM
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8. Nah I have antoher name for this
open new holes into the system... which is already full of them... once again proving it is theater.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:04 PM
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9. Yes, what will they do when a 'trusted traveler' blows up a plane?
Do they just throw darts at a dartboard of ideas? :dunce:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:12 PM
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10. They KNOW what they need to do
but they won't... security is NOT the goal of this circus.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:20 PM
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11. It's a sort of internal passport
Like the old USSR.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:31 PM
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12. The TSA, DHS, and DEA have done nothing to "protect" we citizens.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:36 PM
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13. I wonder what kind of economic situation we would be in without those three
worthless departments (might as well add FEMA to that list)? I mean, the ATF not enough? Patriots on the boarder not enough? Do we really need a million redundant law enforcement organizations? We have the CIA, NSA, the Secret Service and the FBI for starters. What? They not up to the task of defending Americans?
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 05:36 PM
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17. Add the Coast Guard to the list along with the FBI, NSA, and Military.
The DHS, DEA, TSA, and SWAT Teams are but means to control the population.
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:37 PM
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14. Yes. White rich people come this way. The rest of you.. just wait out here.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:39 PM
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15. "select group of travelers"
meaning wealthy and powerful folks.

Let's just put it out there.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 04:44 PM
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16. This was already implemented once..not exactly new...It was called CLEAR
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