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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:41 AM
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The politically motivated violence in Norway has come from the right
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 07:42 AM by malaise
Norwegian Foreign Minister

Live coverage here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14260205

Isn't this true in most Western democracies?

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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:45 AM
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1. The usual fucked up, fascist, Bible-banging assholes nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:47 AM
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2. 100% correct
I can't wait for the right wingers in the US to respond.
These are the people who want Obama dead - these right wing lunatics.

I agree with this
1339: Via Twitter Charlotte, Copenhagen, Denmark writes: This tragedy reminds me of how important it is that we raise our children to respect other people's opinions. Not that I believe it will prevent all tragedies or extremist acts, but it will create a culture in which extremism has difficulty developing.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:50 AM
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3. They make me un-ladylike. I swear, I'd love to punch one of them
It'd make me happy.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:51 AM
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4. I'd lock them all up on an island
Let them destroy themselves

From BBC

Norway's former Prime Minister Gro Harlem Brundtland, now a UN Special Envoy on Climate Change, had left Utoeya only a few hours before the gun attack, it emerges.

1326: Via Twitter

@ZutPetje writes: shocking: #Oslo terrorist "claimed that Geert Wilders' Party for Freedom was the only "true" party of conservatives."
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:00 AM
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5. Me too! And I am convinced they'd kill one another. They'd cannibalize one another nt
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:31 AM
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9. The RWs in Norway have been allowed to express these right wing views
and have been treated politely by the main stream media -I could not say it better.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:04 AM
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18. Same shit as here, only in Norway at least there's a safety net for the helpless....
a GOOD safety net. We here don't even have that kind of thing. We have a shitty safety net which is always under constant attack by the fascists.
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:46 AM
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15. You could check out that
Alex Jones site, if you want to feel sick. Further than that kind of place I won't go to look, myself. I came across some nordic-flavored neo-fascist site once a while back and would prefer not to repeat the experience.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:19 AM
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6. This is a horrific event. Honesty is called for.
This very Party, our own Party, allowed a certain candidate to employ as surrogates well known preachers of hate, known for calls for violence against GLBT people and for accusing us of horrible crimes as their reasons for urging war on us. They called us child killers, prostitutes, thieves, you name it, and they said 'this is war'. Democrats by and large accepted that. Many, many DUers chided GLBT people for complaining about being targeted for violence with great slanders. One DU told me that language proved the candidate's 'bona fides' to the 'faith community' while telling me GLBT votes were no longer needed. Others said to complain about threats of violence against us was 'wanting a pony'. Another poster called the uproar about these slanders 'that gay thing'.
Not only did DU embrace the same sort of religious hatred that the right uses, DU also embraced all who defended that language of elimination. The folks who demanded hate speech be accepted are part and parcel of this Party, and of this community. To keep saying 'the right' as if this cancer is not in our own body is not as accurate as this latest pile of corpses requires. All the dead in Tucson, not one Democrat thought 'gee, maybe the hate talk WE did was bad. Maybe teh gay were right'.
So sure. It is just them. When we have a preacher calling for war on a minority group and calling them child killers, that is 'just politics' but when they do it, well, that is really bad. When they do it, it leads to violence, but when we do it, it just leads to verbal bullying, never ever to killings and beatings. Because it is 'them'. Not the actions, it is 'them'. When they do what we do, they are evil, yet when we do what they do, we are just smugly perfected.
I say it comes from the Straight Religious Community, right left and especially center.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:24 AM
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7. Huh?
The slaughter in Norway was committed by a right wing christian fundamentalist conservative.

That is all
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:38 AM
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12. And those surrogates at Democratic events were Christian
Funamentalists pushing Obama and calling out gay people, surrogates well known for calling for war on gay people. That is different from the right wing religious hate in what way, specifically?
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:30 AM
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8. IMO, humans who grow up, immersed in invalid information, lose
the normal ability to think objectively. If my opinion is correct, society needs to study this phenomenon in detail and put together corrective remedies.


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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:33 AM
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10. I'm a very happy non-religious person
I seen through the reasons of religion years ago and have been a very happy man ever since that moment.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:37 AM
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11. Same here - I'm an avowed atheist
I'd love to hear from Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin et al - hate speech facilitates this madness across the globe.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:44 AM
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13. I'd like McClurkin to join them. Also Caldwell and the rest of them.
Scot Lively, all of C-Street. Robertson. All of them. Coburn. All of them.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:58 AM
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14. Yep n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:57 AM
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16. god must really be disappointed in these folks. they missed his point entirely.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:03 AM
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17. Seems like immigration (Muslim) and multiculturalism were his complaints against the liberal
government.

"Isn't this true in most Western democracies?" It's certainly true here. Teabaggers love to harp about Hispanic immigration and are famous for their "we want our country back" (culturally and politically).
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:11 AM
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19. There is no such thing as a rightwing pacifist
Never has been. Never will be. They are the takers. The stormtroopers. The brainwashed.
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