The Provocation: The Norway Massacre: When Fundamentalism Runs Amok

This is a most excellent analysis of events like the tragedy in Norway which so often damage our world. Too often western nations focus on the fundamentalism of "the other" and turn a blind eye at that which exists within.

http://www.theprovocation.net/2011/07/norway-massacre-when-fundamentalism.html


The Norway Massacre: When Fundamentalism Runs Amok


THE NEWS: A picture is starting to emerge of the suspect in Norway's horrific twin tragedies that have left nearly 100 people dead. Anders Behring Breivik appears to be, in the words of police investigators, "a fundamentalist Christian" with a chip on his shoulder against Norwegians who dared to practice a religion other than the one he considered the true faith. Particularly Muslims.

THE PROVOCATION: We have seen the enemy, and it is us.

It's not Anders Breivik, any more than it was the late Osama bin Laden, or the KKK or even Adolf Hitler. It's the arrogant belief that we are somehow better than other people because we believe a certain doctrine, look a certain way, speak a certain language or regurgitate a certain dogma.

I have been saying this for some time: Christian fundamentalism has the potential to be just as nasty, hateful and violent as anything al-Qaida can muster. It's not the religion that is the danger, but the fundamentalism attached to it - the nearly blind, uncompromising belief that a single idea, system or view of the divine has a monopoly on the truth. And if you think your particular belief system isn't vulnerable to such an interpretation, that makes it all the more dangerous.... more at link

So, are you going to blame the gays too, or just research a little better next time before your prejudice over rules your ability to see things.
Didn't take but a couple of seconds to look this up.

"He identified himself in a multitude of social media services as an admirer of, among others, Winston Churchill,<13> Max Manus,<13> and Dutch politician Geert Wilders, whose political party he described as "the only true party for conservatives".<14> Breivik has also identified himself as "pro-gay and pro-Israel"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Behring_Breivik

angry at Norway's support for a Palestinian state. This is how a fb member described him yesterday. An unproven source, but it certainly fits the emerging profile.

As for right wing misusing Christianity for it's own purposes, people at this forum should definitely know all about that.

You don't have to school me on anti-Christian bias; I'm a Christian myself, and I'm quite familiar with the broad-brush approach to Christianity around here.

Having said that...it is entirely feasible that this man holds extreme views on Zionism that are also found in some right-wing Christian groups, especially the extreme element among the Dispensationalists. Norway has chosen to support Palestinian statehood and I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out this nutcase took that into account.

Edit: added "some" before the phrase "right-wing Christian groups."

I checked the link you provided, but I found nothing about him being "pro-gay."

right wing political extremism --along with the Christian fundyism. Explosive combination.

I don't believe that can't happen. Atheists are not immune to insanity.

Shouldn't others get the same benefit of the doubt?

I realize, though, that if you are homicidally insane, religions can give you support.


--imm

I'd like to know how much of a religious wacko he is. I haven't yet seen anything about religious rantings, church attendence etc however there still isn't much detailed info coming out.

One poster claimed that Breivik was an right-wing, Christian/Zionist extemist (emphasis on "extremist") who, along with his ani-Islam/anti-multiculturalism/anti-immigration, was incensed at Norway's decision to support Palestinian statehood.

I recognize this is an unproven source, but it would fit well with what is so far known about the guy.

edit: spelling.

this guy didn't use his machine gun to attack a mosque full of worshippers, or bomb a middle eastern restaurant. He murdered the children of a Left-ish political party, and presumably meant to assassinate the Prime Minister in the same act. Many of dead kids believed in the same religion as his. Many if not most of the dead are just as "Nordic" as this dick.

The media will probably look for and emphasizee anything to deflect the political, right wing nature of his terrorism - Xtian doomerism, Scandinavian racism, yadda yadda.

But LOOK at who he killed.

I hope people on DU are smarter.

He went after what he regarded as the source of the problem from his perspective.

:fistbump:

I've added an update to this story based on more recent information. You can find it here: http://www.theprovocation.net/2011/07/norway-suspect-offers-little-defense.html

What does Anders Breivik's 1,500-page "manifesto" tell us about him? Just what we've been saying here at The Provocation all along: He's an arrogant egotist who believes in his cause so strongly he wants to promote it despite - or rather through - his own illegal actions.

A follow-up blog here:

http://www.theprovocation.net/2011/07/what-makes-breivik-tick.html