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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 10:15 PM
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IS THIS WHERE WE ARE HEADED

How has other countries solved the problem when their government has stopped working for them?
One alternative has been workers refusal to work! A sit down on the job for two days would cost the upper 10% far more than what they are trying to ransom our future for.
Imagine a week or a month!
perhaps it is time for the workers to study how other countries have handled this situation!
I am retired and fear for my grandchildren future! I am sick of these politicians taking from our future to feed some fat cat's pocketbook!
STAND UP AMERICA AND BE HEARD!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 10:22 PM
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1. America is not Europe & if you are retired you are well aware of this.
If Americans would do ask you write (they never will in any great number) thousands of them would lose their jobs and the ability to take care of their families. Of course, being retired and on SS that is an easy request for you to make of them, is it not?
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 10:31 PM
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3. lay down
and your solution is to lie down and roll over! my generation are the doers! we gave you everything and you blew it!
americans don't lie down to threats by any one including radicals!
wipe your nose junior before you lose everything generations before you worked for!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 12:33 AM
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5. elocs, let's assume you are right.
We voted for change in 2008.

And all we got was a little loose change.

What do you think we should do?

Obviously whatever we do has to be inclusive and compassionate and non-violent.

I would like to hear some suggestions. I haven't been able to think of anything other than organizing in Republican districts to contact voters about their choices.

Can you think of anything?
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luckyleftyme2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 06:05 AM
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6. yes
study how other countries have dealt with this. this is a euro type action the repugs are pulling.
it has been a progression of stealing our wealth by placing people in power who are business friendly.
we know that the real organizer of the tea party was dick almy and big oil money backing him.
the biggest fear these people have is an informed electorate and a pissed off work force!
because if you slack off they lose money!
do you think the price of coffee raising approx a dollar a pound or gas going to $4 is a coincidence?
most of our money is leaving the country through our foreign owned or financed businesses.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 02:56 PM
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8. You are right, luckyleftme2
When I was in Europe we paid a very high VAT tax.

The VAT tax helps equalize the tax burden placed on imported and domestic goods. Right now, because of taxes on domestic employers, domestic goods bear a high portion of the tax burden. That discourages companies from employing Americans and helps make our products uncompetitive.

A lot of DUers don't like the idea of a VAT because they say it is regressive.

But I think we should impose a VAT (a pretty hefty one including on internet sales via imposition of the tax when the item is charged on the credit card) and compensate by adjusting our tax code to give relief to low-income folks and to the domestic employers pay.

Let's say we impose a VAT tax and use a couple of pennies of it to pay for the employers' contributions to the unemployment insurance fund.

That way the tax would be used to promote domestic employment without interfering with our imports.

We could use the tax to fund some of our health care costs. That would also relieve domestic employers of some of their costs and make our products more competitive while increasing employment here at home.
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 10:22 PM
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2. Most of them can't afford not to work. But, they need to be organized.
The day is coming where the whole country needs to be shut down. People taking to the streets, shutting it down.

Organize, organize, organize.

Unions are organized. Follow their strategy. If not, you are isolated as an individual, and you will suffer collectively unless you organize. Talk to friends, neighbors and coworkers. Find out who to trust and who you can't. Most folks are greedy and will f*ck you in a heartbeat to get a nickel ahead of you.

Our government does not listen to us. The voters. They listen to their corporate bribers. They are trying to make that paycheck to the next election.


We've got the best democracy corporations can buy. Big Bucks Doug
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 10:41 PM
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4. If you can't afford not to work, stockpile food and other
essentials while you can and then FUCK THE BANKS. If this shit goes down, I ain't paying squat to a bank. Or rather I'm going to SELECTIVELY pay what I owe to the bankers. Hell, being unemployed for five months it's coming down to that now.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 07:56 AM
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7. Too many Americans are damn proud of not supporting blue collar union workers for that to succeed
Some of them are white collar union members themselves unfortunately.

Don
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firehorse Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 03:10 PM
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9. I doubt a sit down would even dent the 1%.
They probably have the bulk of their wealth tied up in passive income investments. And if they are dependent on labor, its probably labor in India, China, etc.

Nice idea, but 50 years too late.
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