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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:40 AM Original message |
What do you think about Europe's burka banning laws.??? |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
1. Are costume parties outlawed also? Have they arrested all the circus performers? |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Really ??? |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Purporting to be a free society means allowing people you disagree with to have their way also. |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. I was always told that |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. To enter a bank in France you may not wear - Hats, headscarves, |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think everybody should wear face covering in public. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Wonder if beards and sunglasses will be banned next. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Excellent point... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
91. Men have beards - you aren't going to see a law against that |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
107. The law applies to both genders and is about clothing, not facial hair. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:26 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. About as amusing as the idea that it's "gender neutral" |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #110 |
132. You're correct-the law sees all equal, but only the women are forced by violence to wear the veil |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:01 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. ...and I retract my comment about beards |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
142. Beards and sunglasses aren't full body masks. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #142 |
152. Neither is the hajib, but some European countries are banning it. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:38 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. What European countries are banning the hijab? Links please. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #154 |
161. see here: |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:16 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. Nope, your link is about niqab, burqa and face coverings. Not hijab |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
3. Women's clothing needs to be controlled by government |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Why no complaints about the nations that force women to wear hejab under penalty of Death? |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Liberté, égalité, fraternité - Marianne. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Because that wasn't the question |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. The veil is a tool for repression, death, acid in the face, beatings are used to enforce conformity |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. This law is a tool for arresting women |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. This law is a tool for breaking the chain of repression of Chattel held in bondage. It's equivalent |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. How much were African Americans fined for not going to white schools? |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. "it seeks to force a pro-active break with the cultural millstones that deny a class equality." |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. It doesn't go far enough |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Can you even see the Logic Train chugging off in the distance from where you're standing? n't |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. We only differ on the penalty |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #77 |
153. So, "locking them up" is freeing them from....oppression???????? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #153 |
166. What is arresting and fining them? |
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frogmarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
95. +1000 |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
45. I was in Paris on the first day that law went into effect and a woman was arrested |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
58. Good for them for arresting that woman |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
120. Jacques would agree with you, I am not so sure... |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Good point |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Yes! As the Brits say, they were "shortened." |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. Thinly veiled racism. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Pun-ny. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. How do these laws |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. More unreasonable repression of people's liberty by conservatives. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. No government ought legislate how people choose to dress. nt |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. I know right? I should be able to go to my bank wearing a bullet-proof vest and ski mask. nt |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. Does you government stop you from doing that now? |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Yes, it does. And it's a pretty sensible law. Many others do the same. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Your 'many'? 10. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. The burqa is not religious. It's strictly cultural. nt |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Forgive my word choice, then. But the point stands re the poster I responded to. n/t |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #54 |
145. Thank you! |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #50 |
59. You asked me a question. I answered it. It is absolutely against the law in my state |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. Particular venues can still have particular rules. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
55. You know, I think it's really a free speech issue, and ought to be addressed that way. nt |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. We already have laws that regulate what women can and cannot wear in public. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
10. It's unenforceable, racist, stupid, and pandering, reflexive legistation. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. "Unenforceable"? I believe the French authorities would beg to differ. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. An arrest does not equal enforcement. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
11. I have mixed feelings about this. |
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Adsos Letter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Thanks for your insights. I agree wholeheartedly with your closing sentence. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
16. I'm okay with banning this: |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. the law specificallys covers the FACE not the hair or the head scarf |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I imagine we often say that about numerous types of clothing. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
71. First 2 pictures are burqas, last hijab. I am ok with this also. More picts and a link |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. Most attractively made-up eyes I ever saw... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Deleted message |
jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. She had put a lot of effort into making up those eyes |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. FIRST. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:25 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. "some of them work that for all it's worth" |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:32 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. People of both sexes do things which they believe to enhance their attractiveness |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. I think these nations know their situations better than I. Now, my bank's not allowing hats? DNW. |
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LLStarks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
20. If we could round up a 100 or so white women to do a hijab-wearing sit-in in Paris... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Don't bet on that. And besides, who would see their skin? (Ba-dum-bump.) |
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Behind the Aegis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. I support the French's ban., |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. I'm OK with banning them while driving and while having official photos taken |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. Agreed. n/t |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
26. fully supportive |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. You 'have to assume'? No, you choose to do so. |
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socialshockwave (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
28. Full support. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. It is already illegal to beat wives in France |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. And that stops the wife beaters, yes? |
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socialshockwave (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Exactly. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. As much as this law does, yes |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
64. The penalty should be higher, don't you think? |
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Snoutport (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
36. London has seen a huge surge in shoppers from the middle east...i saw an article yesterday |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
39. Not very comfortable with overt legislation restricting |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. I am not in favor of banning burqas or any other type of clothing.. |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
46. I think it's fine. nt |
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TheUniverse (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
48. I think no women should ever be forced to wear a burka. |
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GillesDeleuze (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
49. 1st amendment cuts both ways |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
51. Western cultures already have laws regarding what women can wear in public. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. Precisely - Women Who Do Not Wear The Right Things Need To Be Arrested And Fined |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Society does and can and has. Even here in the US and very few/nobody objects upon arrest. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Prove myself consistent? |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:49 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Still not consistent, the law is written gender neutral. (I'll concede it's Men that force the Veil) |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Riiiiight |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. The law is gender neutral. It applies to men as well. nt |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Good. Lock them up too. |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
53. Turkey, like France was founded on a cultural war with clergy. Turkey also bans headscarves for Wome |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. ...the same thing I think about banks requiring me to take off my hat and sun glasses. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Because there is a fact-based history of people in burkas robbing banks? |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #65 |
88. maybe you want to google it. see what you find... nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #65 |
113. I'm sure the TSA will let them keep their burkas on... |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
66. Not in favor. |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
79. "forced"? Like peer pressure? Or like acid in the face by neighbors or honor killings by male family |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. That's why these laws don't go far enough |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:23 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Their country, their decision on what the consequences shd be. I have no opinion on the penalty.nt |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
84. They're legislating the wrong thing. They should look for instances of domestic abuse. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:35 PM Response to Reply #84 |
90. This law says it's her fault, and applies the penalty accordingly |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. "Husband is forcing wife to wear a burqa during a heatwave? Abuse" The oppressed Women thank you. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:39 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. "Remove the power of the men" - but only arrest the women |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #94 |
103. Nope. The law stipulates punishment for both depending on the situation. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. That's the only necessary part |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
87. I think it is silly to ban an article of clothing. |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
93. I don't really give a shit what laws other countries decide to pass |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
97. I have it say it's totally changed my opinion on thought crimes. I'm against them. |
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LadyHawkAZ (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
98. A burqa/niqab covers the entire face, leaving the person |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
99. Why is it only Muslim women that must comply. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. You won't find too many Amish communities in Europe. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:29 PM Response to Reply #102 |
111. And Muslims have been in France since.... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. The post was in response to the Amish garb and Catholic |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #112 |
128. It's pretty much all derail |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:38 PM Response to Reply #102 |
119. Really? So you don't quite see the bias here? n/t |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:40 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Absolutely none. n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:41 PM Response to Reply #121 |
123. Amazing! eom |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. Government can and does dictate what women can wear in public. And we're discussing face veiling, |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:36 PM Response to Reply #109 |
117. It only says we can't show our lady parts. How we |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
130. Can we agree on polyester pantsuits? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #130 |
143. Funny! |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #117 |
135. In the US you can wear a veil or mask. But clearly not in some countries in Europe. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
100. I totally agree with it. It's demeaning to say the least. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. There goes the St. Patrick's Day Parade |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:18 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Yes because a 1x/year event is so analogous to a daily shrouding |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:22 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Nope, fresh out. Let's make these women criminals |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:09 PM Response to Reply #106 |
136. Read the law. Men would be prosecuted too. More strawmen? |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #100 |
150. Would you have |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
104. I'm more concerned about the ban on topless swimsuits! |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:52 PM Response to Reply #104 |
127. Reply #114 was right below yours when I read the thread.. |
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
114. They are unnecessary and only serve to stir up tensions. nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
115. Under the circumstances I think this is the right thing to do. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
116. Ah, yes, religious costumes |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
118. I oppose Burkas and laws banning them |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:43 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. Bingo! |
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nomb (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. Let's see if that attitude gets muslim women from the 1100's to say, 1340? When doyou see Equality? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:45 PM Response to Reply #134 |
146. Frankly most muslim women were shedding the veil |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:16 PM Response to Reply #124 |
140. So what about the laws against public nudity? That's traditional cultural "garb" for many cultures |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #140 |
144. There's the millenium old rule, "when in Rome". |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. It's not about discretion, it's the law. Decided by the people and duly voted upon. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #149 |
155. So I guess if you are disfigured from an accident |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:50 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. Uhm, that's not misogyny, that's disability accomodation, a far different animal than accomodating |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:52 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Well of course unless they are Muslim. eom |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:02 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Or members of the KKK, because you know, they might have a facial disfigurement too. nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:06 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. LOL! Cute. n/t |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. Heh. Sometimes drunk posting DOES pay off! Anyway, peace to you Cleita |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
122. I will be ok for banning burkas when the nutty hats the english women wear to |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
125. I agree with burka banning laws. Period! |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
126. I am totally against laws criminalizing people's personal religious expression. n/t |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:11 PM Response to Reply #126 |
137. Burqas are not religious. They are cultural. nt |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:51 PM Response to Reply #137 |
148. I am against laws criminalizing people's cultural expression too. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 08:23 PM Response to Reply #148 |
151. No, legally religious expression is in a whole different category than cultural. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
138. Their country, their rules. Western women are expected to cover up |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #138 |
158. This is how I look at it also. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
139. I don't support those anti-burka laws |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
141. Love some of the ridiculous arguments in these threads |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
147. And Dominique Strauss Kahn Is A Leading French Political Thinker |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
164. I don't have a problem with it. Some countries have a long tradition of the way... |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-25-11 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
165. They should ban the face covering while a woman is driving. |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-26-11 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
167. Read the New Yorker article about Elizabeth Badinter |
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