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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 10:48 PM
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America Voted These People Into Office Last Year
Of course it was just 14% of the population that voted to make the republicans the majority in the House. But now all 100% of us is living with the terror enabling idea that the country will default.

What I really want to say to that 14%, can't be printed in the newspapers.

All that can be printed is that I hope they learned their lesson.
Don't vote for republicans. They end up screwing up the country every time they get in power.
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 10:55 PM
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1. Those that sat out the vote
are just as guilty of sticking us with these imbeciles.


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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 10:57 PM
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2. And if we all sit on our hands next fall
being all pissy about how Obama wasn't the progressive we thought he was...

Well, President Bachmann or President Romney will just completely dismantle SS and Medicare and just about every other program we care about (EPA = gutted, Education - gone, etc, etc)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:35 PM
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32. + ONE MILLION.
What would you prefer? A republi-CON in there instead? A divided party because we messed things up by further weakening Obama by primarying him? Divided and dis-spirited like we were in 2010? How'd THAT one work out for ya?
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johnd83 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 10:59 PM
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3. This is really our fault
We should have done more to get people out to vote. For some reason the democratic party just spaced out last year.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:05 PM
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5. Yep!! .......... blame the people ........... can't blame the politicians
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johnd83 Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:07 PM
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7. I don't think blaming the politicians is really going to help
We (as a country) elected this crop of idiots, not Obama or any of the other Democratic congressmen.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:52 PM
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15. So blaming people that did a fair to poor job
is not the answer??

Transparency - meetings behind closed and locked doors

Some would say look at all the stuff Obama got done........
I look at the big stuff where he feel down on the job
Has anything been done to clean up the mess left behind from bush??
Is bush still running around declaring he was a war criminal??
Health care passed, weak, but passed and every day still being attacked
New banking rules, weak, but passed and everyday still being attacked
Got a couple of gay judges
A couple of Supreme Courters

If you want to use the tired and false phrase of what do you expect when he has to work against
the republicans. When he ran for office did he expect the republicans to roll over after eight years??
I never saw any fight from him. Many will disagree about fighting, many will say that is not his style.
When you sit down to the table one does not start from the middle. There are lives at stake here.
Real people die when mistakes are made. Are not the lives of real American people not worth fighting for??
Sometimes when one fights they get bloody and lose. It is better to fight and lose than to settle for
something that is not good.

I sit and watch how the teachers union around the country is being destroyed by this administration.
When he appointed people that leaned right I thought it was not a bad idea to get differing ideas.
It turns out he listens to these people more and more.

Deregulation almost destroyed this country and the bankers were happy that they got to keep their money.
Mortgage fraud running rampant and he does nothing to stop it.
Real people got hurt by these actions. Not the mystical person, but real living people.

A great leader leads from the front, a weak leader gives orders and hopes for the best.
A great leader is not afraid to get bloody. A weak leader just wants to get through it.
A great leader inspires the people. A weak leader not so much.
It would seem that the people determined that President Obama was not a great leader because
the people were not inspired. You can not blame the people because they were not inspired.

I am a democrat. I voted for Obama. I will vote again for him if he is the nominee.
But do not expect me to sit back and take whatever he dishes out just because he says he is a democrat.

The people determine what a democrat is not the party leaders.

One last thing: If you have a democratic president and the people are worried about SS and M&M being cut
then something is really wrong with the world.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:10 PM
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9. Teabaggers told us they'd do this
And a majority of voters made put them in office.

So, yeah, I blame the majority of voters.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:51 PM
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14. Yes, we are supposed to keep repeating what doesn't work
and then when it still doesn't work, it's our fault. When we DID give them the majorities they said they needed, they still had excuses as to why they could not get things done. They told us it was the Blue Dogs' fault.

This blaming the voters, instead of thinking of some way to change this system, just continues the downward slide.

We have Democrats who vote every time for war supplementals but will hand over cuts to social programs because supposedly we have no money. But it's OUR fault that they do this and because they have a 'D' after their names, we should ignore it. :eyes:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:09 PM
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8. It's not our fault.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:02 PM
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4. a brief glimpse into the not-so-distant future will explain the reason:
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SugarShack Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:07 PM
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6. No, 50% of americans voted who are eligible.
We need these voters. the new voters only make up just over those who die and/or don't vote again.

much more fruit going after those who just don't vote!

Too few people making these decisions....
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:16 PM
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11. Yes 14%
I did the math after the last election and it was just 14% of the population who voted for republicans. 13% voted for the dems. Now, if the voting machines were somehow not corrupted and the vote was counted accurately, we are living with a decision that just 1% of the population decided.

1% is 3.2 million. Spread that amongst 435 seats and the numbers are quite close. So close the machines could have easily changed the outcome.
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zappaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 01:04 AM
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16. is this math correct?
cuz it's been waaaay off before.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:27 AM
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18. Does he think the U.S. population is 320 million?
And is he including the approximately 25% of the population that is not old enough to vote? I'm not sure the numbers in his post are useful for anything.
 
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:25 AM
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25. Yes
The total POPULATION.

Most people just glaze right over that fact.

In my mind, discounting others is an elitist proposition. I am egalitarian.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 04:18 PM
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26. Didn't the 2010 Census put the population at less than 309 million?
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 04:19 PM by Make7
Their current population clock estimates that the population is still under 311 million. Since the Census data is what is used to determine representation by government in this country (and that seems to be what is being discussed), would it not make sense to use their numbers instead of whatever source you seem to be using?

And I'm also not sure that including a significant portion of the population that isn't even eligible to vote in your calculations of what percentage voted for Republicans is statistically valid.

Also since we are looking at the results of a large legislative body, it probably would be best to summarize how you arrived at your numbers instead of just posting some unreferenced figure. There are different ways of looking at the data - some valid, some not.
 
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:18 PM
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27. well
There are probably at least 10 million aliens in country who were not counted.

The aliens, the children and all the rest of the uncounted, in my mind, do actually count, so I try to count them. They are people. And the laws affect them as well. So when I say population, I do mean the whole human population.

Thanks for playing, Make 7. I can always count on you to be checking in on me, eh?
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:30 PM
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28. So who do you think the aliens and minors should have voted for?
Obviously not the Republicans, so I assume they should have voted Democratic then.
 
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-11 06:40 PM
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29. Try to stay on track
Obviously, since they were not citizens, they could not vote. They are the disenfranchised, but they are still a part of the human population. Just like blacks were just a mere 50 years ago.

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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:33 PM
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30. So if two thirds of all possible voters were to vote for Obama in 2012, ...
... you believe he would not represent the people since less than half voted for him?
 
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:11 PM
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10. And certain progressives on other web sites cheered the loss of "blue dogs". n/t
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:56 AM
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21. the blue dogs would go along with republican black mail
just like they are now, and like they did then. The would support crashing the country if we did not abandon social security and medicare, just like the supported extending bushs tax break.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:33 PM
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12. A major problem are the candidates that tell us what we want to hear, then
go to the right, sometimes way t-bag right.

Look at Wisconsin, Kansas and a few other states.

How can we hold them to their campaign lies, er... promises?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:46 PM
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13. Elections have consequences......some more than others....
People sat on their asses in a snit and now we all pay the price.
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:57 AM
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22. I believe the bluemutts that lost would be siding with baggers.
so I disagree.
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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:12 AM
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17. DID America vote them in? Really??

Maybe... but 25% of the US is still voting on paperless electronic voting machines so there's no way, really, to ever know.

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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:51 AM
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19. I blame the two party system
the dems deserved to be punished last year, but since we are not allowed to vote third party the ordinary voters use republicans even though they are fire to frying pan.
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dameocrat67 Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 03:52 AM
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20. Obama extended the tax break before losing the house
the nonvoters have nothing to do with that.
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Morizovich Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 04:10 AM
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23. I didn't!
Nor did I sit on my hands: I voted D all the way.
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 04:36 AM
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24. And most of "these people" were reelected. There are not a lot of new
faces in the crowd.

It is not one, or seven, or ten of them screwing with us, but the whole group.

And the saddest part, most of them will be reelected AGAIN. About the only way one will not be reelected will be to die, or retire - and even dead ones have been known to keep their seat.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 09:34 PM
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31. We had the majority for 2 years. What is your point?
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 10:54 PM
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33. Point is
We don't have a majority anymore. But if we did, things would be much better. As it is the crazies were voted into office less than a year ago. It's like we have bush zombies running amok. Again.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:32 PM
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34. So Democrats no longer control the Senate and White House?
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