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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:04 PM
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I'm thinking of moving my measley money market into savings. ...Overreacting?
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 11:04 PM by Armstead
I've got a little nest that is in a money market from my credit union.

I'd been thinking of shifting it into savings anyway, but with all that's going on I've been thinking I should head there tomorrow and do it.

Do you think I'm overreacting? I hadn't considered it a "high risk" investment, but things are so uncertain at the moment...
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:06 PM
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1. You might get whipsawed or left out when it goes back up..
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 11:07 PM by flamingdem
of course you know its very hard to time the market

The big boys will are trading this one and it will be fully manipulated.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:10 PM
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3. I make such a small amount of interest it's not worth thinking about -- just a glorified savings
I'd just rather not see the whole thing suddenly shrink or disappear.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:09 PM
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2. What is the difference between savings, MMA and checking?
All are FDIC insured.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:12 PM
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If so then I'm concerned about nothing.....Maybe. As long as FDIC doesn't fold
Not likely I realize.....But at this point nothing seems outside the realm of possibility
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:12 PM
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7. you nailed it
Hopefully the MM acct. pays a bit more than simple savings. However, depending upon the amount, the MM could be less.

Both of these types of accounts are insured up to $250,000.00.

You might wish to compare rates and keep the money in the one paying the most (likely >1% at best in most cases thanks to Ben :puke: )

:dem:

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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:13 PM
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8. Beat me to it.
Typically transaction limitations (number of checks/withdrawals per month)
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sense Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:13 PM
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9. Money market mutual fund accounts are not fdic insured.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:15 PM
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11. He stated that it is a credit union MMA.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:15 PM
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12. There is a difference between a money market account held at a bank/cu
and a money market mutual fund (fund of money market accounts) held at a brokerage.

Why I said below for OP to call his CU in the morning to confirm.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:11 PM
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4. I always thought money market savings
in credit unions or banks were covered by FDIC safeguards up to 250K. Am I wrong?
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:14 PM
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10. No, you are not wrong.
However Credit Unions are NCUA insured, not FDIC (banks).
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:58 PM
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23. I would want to see what that money market is tied to. It is not necessarily NCUA /nt
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:43 AM
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25. If it is a CU MMKT, it is NCUA covered
if it is a MMKT mutual fund (fund of MMKTs), it is SIPC through the brokerage house.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:11 PM
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5. Nobody knows what the right thing to do is until the dust clears
and we all count up what we have left.

If you feel you need the added liquidity, go for it. However, some money market accounts are FDIC insured.

However, the FDIC has up to 30 years to pay off depositors who lost their money.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:12 PM
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6. Money Market at a CU is just as insured as a savings account, not like riding the market
But with a (slightly) better interest rate as MMKT are typically limited to transactions per month, unlike savings. Money Market accounts are not 'investments' and not subject to the whims of the market voliatility (only interest rate sensitivity).

Call your CU in the AM to discuss.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:16 PM
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14. Thanx
Interest is so little it's not really an issue

Just wouldn't want the principle gobbled up by this debacle.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:55 PM
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21. Actually, it depends. If we default, Money market accounts could be affected /nt
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:16 PM
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13. the ones that need to sweat like pigs
are those with their money invested in the stock market ... aka Wall Street. If you don't have any money invested with the criminals there your money is insured if it is in an FDIC bank or NCUA credit union for up to $250,000.00.

It might not be paying a hell of a lot right now but at least you have it still.

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:56 PM
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22. Money markets are not necessarily insured by FDIC or NCUA /nt
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:44 AM
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27. That's true.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:20 PM
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15. put it all into Eric Cantor's short bond fund:
ProShares Trust Ultrashort 20+ Year Treasury ETF.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/etfs-profit-from-rising-treasury-bond-yields

BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Leveraged exchange-traded funds that short U.S. Treasury bonds got a nice pop last week from a jump in yields, and the ETFs could see further gains if investors lose their thirst for government-backed debt.

In a dramatic sell-off Wednesday in government bonds, yields on 10-year notes surged above 3.7% at one point to their highest levels since November. That upheaval in the bond markets, which some traders said was exacerbated by mortgage-related selling, ignited fears that inflation is on the horizon as a result of the government's efforts revive the ailing financial system.

........

guess what? that story is over two years old

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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:38 PM
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16. Advice I gave, but did not follow in Dec 2000
If you wanted to make lots of money. Just look at who bought the GOP.

Invest in human suffering. Anything that goes up when people suffer, die and are fearful, paranoid and xenophobic. Companies that make missiles bombs, guns, security, tasers, tear gas, anti-depressants, private prisons...

But with so many companies selling, how would you know which ones to choose? Best bet are the ones that buy invest the most in lobbying. Highest returns on any corporate investment. Best to do the research now while there is still some disclosure. That little bit of transparency is likely to fade away.

Prices are higher now, but if one is willing to sell a soul, you can still get in.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:41 PM
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17. I think I 'll just stick with my good old credit union
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:45 PM
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18. The Dark Lords lose again
:evilfrown:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:41 AM
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24. Then again, it does sound like a pretty good deal
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:49 PM
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19. We just did that yesterday. Going to leave it parked in savings until this blows over.
Edited on Thu Jul-28-11 11:53 PM by Justitia
on edit, to clarify - ours was in a mutual fund.

We didn't want to lose principal either.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-11 11:54 PM
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20. Money markets are not paying sqwat anyway, and with all the issues going on right now it wouldn't
hurt. However, keep in mind the FDIC insurance limit is 250K per account. Not sure what the maximum CU accounts are

If we actually default, money markets could be affected

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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:44 AM
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26. Any shift in a MMkt rates has to go up. You can't get any rates lower than
what they're paying you.
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